February 15, 2012
Published: 7 Apr 09 07:53 CET | Double click on a word to get a translation
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/18722/20090407/
Annika Östberg Deasy, found guilty in 1981 of being an accessory to two murders, including that of a policeman, has been transferred from a US prison and is on her way back to Sweden.
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She is not a victim in any sence of the word and should count her luck she was transfered.
Few thoughtful Swedes would deny that a substantial sentence was merited, but most people here would argue that holding her for the rest of her life would be excessive. Sentences of that length are unheard of in Sweden for all but the worst murders; Swedes would argue that they are dehumanising and serve no useful purpose.
However, I do not belive that this was the reason for Sweden to pass the IPRED law. So, Sweden passed the IPRED law for several reasons, none of them the release of Annika Östberg, But I'm quite sure the unnamable governor of Carliforna, and quite a few of his campain contributors, where rather pleased.
Allso I would like to say something about the state, the law and punishment. No state can justly impose a punishment that exceeds what is needed to discourage others to repeat the transgression. If a state go beyond that, it's just about cruelty and equal to the transgression that is being punished. I don't belive life sentences fulfill this criterion.
The relatives of the killed policeman is so full of hate, that it´s disgusting.
I could buy it if she pulled the trigger, but she didn´t.
This talk about tyst diplomati is just a big load of bs.
California let her go because they need to save money.
There is no way that this upstanding young Swede who was forced to immigrate to the US (probably because her mother was brainwashed by American TV) could have had a hand in this!
/sarcasm off
All I can say when I hear people talking about treating criminals with hugs and rainbows is "Typisk Svensk"
Read this instead. Most of the information there is based on her own account of events during the trial, as opposed to the activist site you pulled that information from.
I'm glad I put "IIRC" in my original reply too, because my memory was not correct. She reloaded the weapon when they had the shootout with the cops (after the first and second murders while they were attempting to flee in the stolen police car).
This woman is no saint. IMHO prison shouldn't be rehab in her case, it should be punishment. If you read about her in what I linked to above you'll see that she was responsible for another death long before the incident in 1981.
She was not a victim and yes maybe 27 is a lot of years. But only she knows she could have stopped and done something else.
I just hope she doesn't try and make a profit from what she has done.
If you're having a hard time reading it then run it though Google Translate. It doesn't do the best translation but you should be able to understand most of it.
WRT her sentence in relation to the suicide, that's pure speculation. What is in that article is based on Annika's own admission in court, which is a lot more solid than your analysis.
I feel bad for the victim's family though, as having Östberg back in Sweden really doesn't leave any closure for the family. Anyway, with the Swedish headlines lately on Östberg it kind of disturbs me since it seems as though they're "welcoming home" the lady.
Ranting off topic on U.S. jail sentences, check this out, http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/04/08/te...ence/index.html
The odd thing is that crime rates haven't increased significantly the last thirty years. Some things have shifted, but nothing like what the newspapers are reporting. If you go by them we have a civil war going on, it's a shame they don't take a bit more responsibillity.
Bottom line however, Sweden didn't had to deal with all the issues the US have struggeled with for so long. Its allso a much smaller country. It would be extremely odd if Sweden would function anything like the big US states.
Allso when it come to discussing crime, the concept of "the US" is hardly helpfull, I mean, it's a huge and diverse friggin' place.
(that's what y'all sound like folks). anybody have anything to say that doesn't need someone sticking out a tongue and/or putting thumbs to your temples and wiggling fingers?
I also wonder if we should be hard on a person who is abandoned by her own mother in her teens. Would such a person really feel any respect for human life, love or other emotions? Bitter/angry/abandoned kids are easy targets for prostituition/drugs/criminal gangs. Once they get into such groups, their opinion about the world only gets reinforced by the raw and tough society in which they move. It partly explains to me after all how people can carry out or participate in such horrendous crimes.
and this from the same essay:
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2278
america gets bashed
sweden gets bashed
the UK gets bashed
is this a new rule?
mayB u shood moov bak to tha US so tha u can lurn good 3nglish.
, you typed this at a computer and you weren't sending an SMS. What an embarrassment.
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article4868768.ab
Good use of taxpayers money, no? Why couldn't they just have flown commercial with her? I doubt anybody would have known who she was until she got a hero's welcome back in Sweden. Cheaper too.
*has promised to repay her dept to the Swedish people after squandering their tax money on her repatriation* :Fcuk off:
And it costs what...7 SEK for a bullet?
/sigh
What a waste.