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February 14, 2012
ISPs refuse to shut down Pirate Bay
Published: 18 Apr 09 12:15 CET | Double click on a word to get a translation
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/18940/20090418/
Internet service providers refuse to cooperate with an entertainment industry group's demand to shut down The Pirate Bay.
- Supreme Court denies Pirate Bay right to appeal (1 Feb 12)
- Streaming services 'save' Swedish record industry (24 Jan 12)
- Dutch court orders ISPs to block Pirate Bay (12 Jan 12)
But Internet service providers (ISPs) refuse to cooperate, reports the Svenska Dagbladet newspaper.
Neither has the judgement slowed down file sharing. Several minutes after the Stockholm District Court delivered the verdict, almost ten billion files were being downloaded.
The ISPs maintain that the ruling doesn't apply to them.
"In part, this is not a legally binding decision, but above all, this is a judgement against Pirate Bay and nothing that effects any service provider. We will not take any action (to block) the contents if we are not compelled to do so," Patrik Hiselius, a lawyer at Telia Sonera, told Svenska Dagbladet.
Bredbandsbolaget and Com Hem had the same reply. Jon Karlung, managing director of Bahnhofs, said the judgement does not change anything.
"We will not censor sites for our customers; that is not our job. I am against anything that contradicts the principle of a free and open Internet."
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i like pirate bay, not because of the crap movies it has on it, but because its dissolving the profitability of the propaganda machine and is providing a flexible means of info transfer and it supports freedom of information and a route around the censored mainstream channels of info distribution.
AND IM NOT THE ONLY ONE!
When you use internet and you pay for that you have to see the fact that someone needs to search for something.
There a lot of people which surf the net and they are looking for some files, but they haven't got money to bay let say some materials which are accessing.
This is stupid because ISPs wants to take money from customers and every customer has to got fun or to find something on the web.
If all stuff are restricted then what we will find on internet?
Maybe blink pages, with let say blue, white, red, green, yellow color and we have to pay for that because some stupid man arranged in some stupid organistation to authorize rights of property let say for colors.
In that case I think that all will be blind.
The world is changing, advertizing and propaganda is being feed to us every minute, product placement, in tv shows, movies, music videos,etc.
We are being secretelly profiled, by google, yahoo, facebook, my space, MSN, and many others, that data is being sold for billions;
The reason targetted adds, for the sucker consumers that we are; Well no more! Content should be free and the tab should be paid by the companies attempting to push their goods and the advertizing companies.
This is like prosecuting the postal service, there is a great deal of criminal activity via the post, however are they on trial here? they are a medium of communication nothing else, it is not up to the Post office nor service providers to police IPR infringements!
There is no rule that says if you make movies you should make millions of dollars, that is just what use to happen. Times change, businesses change. Should we have outlawed electric trains to preserve the steam train industry? No I think not, and we should also not outlaw access to entertainment for the sake of a few dozen top execs who see their annual bonuses going the way of the steam train.
ISPs should control governments activities LOL. They are the one who are into rocket,bombs plane weapon dealing.
And dont let a few selected pepole by our votes to mess up with our privacy.
Good job by the ISPs!
I also agree with what everyone says about damn Hollywood. They are always whining. They have an open mic and say what ever they want... and people listen, because it's "Hollywood" and the same damn stars.
Make movies... but don't pay the idiot actors multimillions. It doesn't make sense why they were getting these salaries in the first place.
I get sick of seeing the same faces.
Anyway... Hollywood has always thought they were so damn important. Why else would they air all of those really boring film award shows for all the public to see. Hollywood egos! When I received awards/bonuses from my employers... did anyone else care... nope!
I agree... get with the times. Hollywood had it's days. Just like other companies/industries come and go... cut back during hard times... well, it's time for Hollywood to think about it too. Blah Blah Blah...
I'm rooting for PB guys to have their verdicts overturned and life goes on at PB.
And now they are paid millions of dollars and people actually listen to their opinions about politics and think they matter.
The ISP's will get involved once legislation is passed that they can fine IP users for illegal downloads, once ad buyers top advertising on illegal sites. It's all coming to an end. And many small businesses are harmed. Not studios. Small indie filmmakers. How long would you work if you didn't get paid at your job? WAKE the F..k up.
What you described above would be theft. However, if I made a copy one of my DVDs and presented you with it, you certainly would not consider that to be theft. Hardly anybody would, apart from the copyright holder of course. Since I made a copy of my own DVD and didn't steal anything, the most they could do is to accuse me of copyright infringement. That's what filesharing is: copying and sharing. There's no theft involved.
"We will not censor sites for our customers; that is not our job. I am against anything that contradicts the principle of a free and open Internet."
I download and I will not make myself invisible!
DeadHead for life! Share the Music, Share the love :-D
I dig what you are saying and you are right small businesses should not get affected...but to be honest I doubt they are...and even if they are, come on should a movie that takes at most a year to make be earning millions of dollars. Are the crew and cast deserving of all that money for the type of work that they are doing. My answer is NO! Enough with Actors thinking that they are entitled to Millions of dollars for 6 months worth of work as well as studio heads.
The world has enough people suffering in it that I have no sympathy for them...I definately have no empathy. Enough is enough! Poor little Millionaires, sad because they might have to sell their mansions and move into regular homes :'-(
Enough Money and time has been wasted on this issue...couldn't it be better spent on the poor people of the world?
Pirate for life! Share the Music, Share the Love :-D
Let’s say a low-budget indie film takes anywhere from $100,000 to $1 million to make. Most of that money goes not to actors and producers, but to film stock, labs, insurance, equipment, locations, etc. If the movie is extremely successful on the festival circuit the movie might get picked up by a small distributor, but will usually get no or a very small advance.
The DVD is released, and on the same day that it hits stores, it becomes available as a Torrent. An indie film is considered very successful if it can sell 15,000 units in the first few months after its release, but that same indie film will be downloaded maybe 150,000 times in the same period of time. Depending on what kind of deal the filmmaker has from investors (usually the filmmaker makes nothing until the investors are paid back), the filmmaker and actors will make anything from a basic very low salary for shooting and editing the film, to a big ZERO.