Published: 28 Apr 09 15:31 CET | Print version
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After months of suffering through thrown rocks and threats directed at his squadron during numerous calls to the Rosengård neighbourhood in Malmö, local fire chief Henrik Persson said on Tuesday he is stepping down from his post.
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Anyway... when will the Swedish government wake up and see what uncontrolled mass immigration is doing to such a nice country? Very well Mrs Persson it’s just about time someone stand up against politically correctness and shout what in going on. You and your brave men have my respect.
Tony Garcia.
Abackstrom, I am sure they are harassing firefighters because of Western wealth and prosperity, or American "imperialism", or the lack of social services. Isn't this what all the Western European newspapers say the problem is?
When looking at it in a situation similar to weeds - if you stay on top of it, you can pluck out the individual weeds and there is no problem. In this case, the garden is way overgrown...so you have to pluck out a lot...or till it under and begin again.
Multi-culturalism isn't about integration but the separate existence of other populations within another host culture, which of course is not a superior culture, but one to be improved by the other culture.
Don't you all feed improved?
I'm Muslim and educated in Sweden! Most of my classmates coming from Iran and Pakistan are also educated and Muslim. You should understand that rape, terror and bothering police, fire fighters,...is forbidden in Islam. Why some Muslims do? Because they are criminal. I'm sorry to see that Swedish police is not tough enough to arrest all of these criminals and expel them to where they came from!
Asn for those who worry about mass immigration, US is developed due to this mass immigration but of course they react very harsh if these immigrants or anyone else breal the laws. We don't see sucha thing in Sweden
They can dear Iranian, if they do so people like you will be calling them "racist" and the PC gestapo will be doing all they can to sack them. Where do you think you live? this Europe mate, minorities are today "super people". You guys can do whatever you want and nothing will happen, including lose the dole...
(But please don't tell anybody.)
highly educated south americans with proven swedish ancestry and fulfilling all the financial requirements do not even get tourist visas.
yet criminals from the middle east get asylum very easily.
violent rapists/ kidnappers / drug smugglers from colombia´s FARC , not only get asylum they have their headquarters in stockholm.
Sweden needs to realize that something is not working.
Has anyone bothered to investigate what the underlying causes of the problems are?
Could it be a lack of services specifically to help immigrants integrate; a lack of employment opportunities or at least equal access to jobs (NOT Sweden jobs for Swedes!); a lack of counselling services for those coming from conflict zones (ie post traumatic stress disorder!); sporting facilities; etc etc?
Could the firefighters have gone into the areas themselves and tried to engage with the youths causing some of the problems?
Sweden has a good and open immigration policy but it must prevent the establishment of immigrant ghettos or the incidence of violence will on increase and spread.
The Black One
first of all rape issue...
the following is a from todays news in the local.se
"In addition to challenging victim and crime stereotypes, perceptions surrounding ‘typical’ perpetrators must also be considered. The UN Special Report discusses how there is a widespread belief that the type of men who commit intimate-partner violence are not typical, ‘normal’ Swedes.They are usually imagined as somewhat ‘deviant’ - unemployed, uneducated, alcoholic or from non-Western backgrounds, and so on. However, as Ertürk challenges: “In absolute numbers, the vast majority of the perpetrators of intimate-partner violence are ‘ordinary’ Swedish men.”
just because they (because i am not a war refugee) coming from a war afflicted country doesnt make them barbarian!!..they r here bcoz the so called christian nations attack their country in the pretext of protecting them from "terrorists" or internatnal conflicts.the amount barbarian behaviour that the military from other countries do their countries is too much!!
coming to "unducated
they r educated in their countries.and also held high positions.but when they come here,they have to prove themselves all over again. and when they do that, their black hair/skin and their non-swedish names get on the way of getting them the job that they deserve.
if ever i have to leave my country to go elsewhere as a war refugee...sweden will be that last place that i would be interested..i believe that it is better to die in your country with what ever little self-respect that is left...than to live here like dogs and second citizens!!
The housing projects in Chicago, and other major US cities, have had parallel issues that are faced here in Sweden and through out Europe. The solutions requires proactive actions, something that I am finding is either lacking or takes a tremndous amount of time, along socio-economic policies. Chicago's answer to the crime ridden Cabrini Green and other Housing Projects was to tear down the high rises and build communal single family resdences, intergrate the population amongst other communities via sunsidized housing, and bring in new business with tax breaks and other incentives. Not perfect, but not doing anything is worse. There are areas of American life that European countries could benefit from and improve on, because when it comes to racial intergartion the US has the market cornered on things not to try. Maybe the failed policies of yesterday need a closer look?
Reread that and realise it is not at all relevant to this discussion.
You're ranting about one comment on a message board?
You mean some are educated and some held high positions. And yes, this is to be expected when someone migrates to a new country. No such thing as a free lunch.
http://www.thelocal.se/14522/20080923/
It's a problem to be sure, but don't try to make it out to be the absolute truth.
Ok then. We won't miss you.
Whilst we can all agree that people who throw rocks at firefighters need a damn good shoeing, I think his point is that the police are not prepared to do their bit in protecting the firefighters. Why do we pay them again?
Regarding the issue of hooligans attacking the rescue services, wouldn't it be logical to assume that it isn't IMMIGRANTS with a capitol I who are doing this as one united group, but more than likely a loosely organised gang of adolescents and young adult males, many of whom may well have grown up in Sweden their whole lives? Let's not be too quick to excuse behaviour based on post-traumatic stress syndrome. Justifying behaviour that can result in loss of life or property on the foreign policies of US government is a little far fetched.
As a immigrant you are the wrong person mostly . some thing is wrong with your people thinking.
Anila, you are blaming all your problems on "Christian countries". I am assuming you mean US foreign policy. How are Christians and other minorities treated in Muslim countries then? Probably like royalty the way you profess your moral superiority.
that education is not valid in sweden or any other western or eastern countries. may be valid in middle east or afghanistan.
I no longer respond to your posts because you have never been in Swedish univeristy to see how Iranian bachelor/master/doctoral degrees are being accepted by Swedish universities!! You're living in your own dreams and I can't help it. Pitty you have the name of Euro but hardly qualified for that.
Here is an interesting article about it (in Swedish)
http://sydsvenskan.se/malmo/article429062/...Herrgarden.html
Basically, it's:
They can't get jobs because of their background + they're poor living on welfare + they're bored + there are racist police = riots
They even attack the people from the newspaper stating they're "not on their side." War mentality. Definitely a problem.
I don't disagree that immigration is hard ... its something I am going through at the moment. But its made more difficult because the society is "closed" ... if you were not born in Scandinavia then the obstacles that you have to overcome are much more considerable than they should be. If you compare the immigration policy of Australia which plonks its refugees on Christmas Island several thousand kilometres off the Australian coast until they are checked and vetted.
I know of examples in Swedish business where the corporate language is advertised as English yet every e-mail sent within the organisation is in Swedish - how does somebody who has not yet learned the language do their job and integrate effectively if they are confronted by this? Sure you have to learn the language but it will take at least a year or two before one is fully fluent.
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Here in Uppsala the Migration Board is "conveniently" located down a side alley off a main road 3 or 4 kilometres from the centre of town with a small sign hidden among an array of other more prominent ones indicating its relative proximity. Why not have the office in town? Is the cost of office space in Uppsala that high that it prevents the agency from being able to afford an office in a more central locale? It is a question I will be asking them, why are you out here in the middle of nowhere?
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cheers
The Black One
It would be cool if MV were located in the middle of the kommun authority building, by the library, next to the administration offices etc., to give a visual signal to one and all that immigrants are part of the society.
If you judge history with nowadays laws or traditions then Socrates should go to jail for being pedophile..same with the prophet Mohamet who married 9 years old Aicha......all big civilisation Arabs, European, Perse, Greek, Mongols, Incas,Mayas etc etc have used slavery torture, invasions, colonisations etc etc
Some of Islam's followers believe it transcends nationality and is a political movement. Some just call their god Allah instead of God and do what everyone else does. I also know Catholics who use condoms.
After reading the book you will understand why there is a major cultural difference and conflict between our Western culture and the Muslim culture that is based on and still practiced the way it was in the 6th century.
As long as a sovereign country does not insist and enforce adherence to their laws, then anarchy is not too far away. Religious freedom is one thing, but the local laws must be adhered to. The Muslim doctrine of world dominance is much more frightening then Hitler and the Nazi's way to get there!
Question: So is it your contention that there are NO 'ethnic' Swedish youths who are not similarly bored and undisciplined?
That's a very prejudiced thing to contend. Yes?