March 22, 2010
Published: 8 May 09 17:39 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/19340/20090508/
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Sweden’s Migration Board (Migrationsverket) doesn’t forecast a rise in the number of asylum seekers coming to the country, but instead expects more relatives of existing refugees to seek residency in Sweden.
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I wish I could visit Sweden before it’s gone...
Tony.
Perhaps we could start with rosengård?
About why sweden is not like US because simply Americans don`t have xenophobia like most Swedes do. Maybe after 20 or 30 years this will change, untill that day all have to contribute to build a better place to live in and stuff like Rosengård happens everywhere and everyday in the world, remember how many things like Rosengård happened in US, why Rosengård in Sweden has a special meaning then?????
On the other hand, perception of each and everyone of us is unique and may be different from other although sometimes some people may sound a bit alike minded. In other words, some people may be pro-immigrants while other may be anti-immigrants. Which every in the country you go the immigrants syndrome is there! Yeah I call it SYNDROME it is kind of sickness. For the Love of God, when shall we come to the conclusion of recognizing Humanity rather than Nationality, Respect rather than Hostility and Hospitality rather than Violence?
I wish to see one day that all human beings of all races, ethnics and religious ideologies live together in Peace and Harmony and with Love and Respect.
and keep on milking the government (the milktoasty Swedish government) for all it's worth.
Your words are so nice and I agree with you, people must live in peace and harmony, respecting each other but the problem is that some have an occupied bad image for all the immigrants. I am a doctor and i have many doctor friends who told me a lot of discrimination stories when they tried to apply for jobs as doctors. Discrimination is disgusting.
The individuals that are on social assistance from the government have no other choice; they have to slowly integrate to the system here in Sweden before they can find employment. The biggest problem with this of course is racism from the employers’ side makes it impossible to find work just because your name isn’t Swedish or other physical reasons.
Immigrants + Sweden = THE FUTURE OF THIS NATION take Immigrants out of the equation and Sweden will soon become a forgot land of Vikings.
Crap as well.
Educated immigrants are indeed a benefit, they integrate quickly, they adapt and learn the language faster. And generally these people come from other European or Western countries.
Sweden educate a lot of Foreign Students Free annually, and Migration Verket could simply integrate upon demand these students into their system as the USA does.
But Migration Verket prefers to have tens of thousands of people (refugees) come annually , then go through the pains of confirming their status, teaching them swedish and then a trade..all using tax payers hard earnt money..
Why couldnt migration simply take students who came here and received good education to give them permanent status??
Why!? WHY?
Economy and already overburdened local infrastructure should at least find some relief finally from the reduced flow of refugees. Although gains from those savings offset by record-high flow of refugees' family members.
Last year Sweden had over 100,000 immigrants coming to the country, and the States (according to you) had around 55,000...I think Sweden is doing it's fair share?
There are a lot of medical doctors, engineers and highly qualified immigrants here in Sweden too. Reading The Local may give the impression that we are all illiterate but I can assure you we're not.
That comparison is beyond ridiculous and makes you look like a moron.
You seem to be confusing immigrants and refugees. The number of refugees allowed to stay is not a matter of policy, it's a matter of international law.
http://www.thelocal.se/19306/20090507/
http://www.thelocal.se/18506/20090327/
You are aware that this is a site predominantly for immigrants in Sweden aren't you. Hands up all those who pop out for a bit of vandalism in between posts and who are financially supported by the government. Come on, be honest, apparantly it's most of us.
Really. And what do you base that upon? In my Swedish class there are 4 doctors, 2 accountants, 1 teacher, 1 professor and 3 engineers. Only one of them is from a European or Western country
Why? Surely if a highly educated person brings their skills and abilities to Sweden, for the benefit of Sweden, shouldn't Sweden be grateful to them? And what is wrong with different? My Swedish neighbours like that I am different, especially if they get invited to Guy Fawkes parties and are kept supplied with scones and Cadbury's chocolate.
What? Allow students to stay instead of refugees? You're having a laugh aren't you? The UN are going to love that.
Because education in Sweden was free. Free education + work permit = Enormous influx of migrants. (?)
Now that they're charging for education they're changing the rules... I read about it somewhere on the local but I can't find the article.
And, I think that the States should accept more immigrants than Sweden, considering that they have about 272 million more citizens than Sweden does?
If you do the numbers compared to the amount of citizens, that means that the States should accept over 3,000,000 immigrants a year to be in the same situation as Sweden is right now.
Considering that many immigrants and refugees flee from countries that the U.S. is attacking, I think that the U.S. has an even greater responsibility than any other country.
Honestly, when we see Rosengard or Kista or Rinkeby in the paper, which racial stereotype springs to your mind ? The Scots or the Welsh??
The sad thing is that the majority of the immigrants coming from these countries are sincerely happy and appreciative of being here, and are hardworkers that just want a better life for themselves and their family. The Rosengårds that everyone keeps mentioning is basically their children stuck between 2 very different cultures and causing chaos. If they are not Swedish then who are they? I'm of the opinion that if we don't have a proven successful integration strategy and tactical implementation, then we should not accept anyone until we get this part of it sorted out.
The lesson we've learned in Canada with immigration is that "multi-culturalism" has been positive for our country, but you have to be selective as to who you let in. Immigration to any country is a privilege, not a right. The Canadian situation is also a bit different from Sweden as our country has been built exclusively on immigration for the last two hundred years.
As for the refugee situation, Sweden can not continue to try to be mother to the world and expect no consequences from this.
US & Canada allows quite much immigrants into the country legally every year but there are uncountable amount of illegals going into the US each year. Immigrant does not automatically mean Refugee and all who claim Refugee status here in Europe are not really refugee running away from bombs in Asia, Middle East or somewhere in Africa.
Ok little bit education is needed here. Information on the immigration situation of the US, 2008:
U.S. Legal Permanent Residents: 2008
Naturalizations in the United States: 2008
Many of those on non-immigrant admissions to the US will probably end up living in the US
Nonimmigrant Admissions to the United States: 2008
And the unauthorized ones:-
Estimates of the Unauthorized Immigrant Population Residing in the United States: January 2008
but forgat about ur stastics and had better to develope +ve thinking .... consdering every body as beggar while not ...
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/sanandaji6.html (president of the Swedish think tank Captus)
http://www.norwaypost.no/content/view/21900/1/
http://www.alipac.us/article1650.html
http://www.aina.org/news/20051215134351.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU&feature=channel_pa.ge
hmm...
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sw.html
Thank you for the links, I now understand you a little better but I think that you maybe forgot to add the one from the Klu Klux Klan.
This may seem condecending, but I honestly dont mean to be:
Just because somebody publishes something on the internet does not automatically make it true. This should be basic stuff, but if you base your opinions upon websites with agendas boardering on (if not embrasing) racist sentiments, hey presto, you become racist.
And by the way, is it only non-white immigrants or muslims that you have a problem with? I am an immigrant to Sweden along with many others who read and contribute to this website are we all more likely to be criminal than Sven next door?
While nobody has answered my question above, I beg to differ on the hate message some pple throw about here!
If this chinese proverb that says (Give a man fish, and u feed him for 1 day, but teach him how to fish, and you feed him for a life time) holds true, then I think by encouraging pple to get contented with asylum status & giving them tax payers' money monthly is counter productive. But a student in Sweden will be productive both for himself & the Swedish Taxverket in future.
Maybe existing policies have to be reviewed, not taken off the table completely!!
SFI can be an ideal means for providing a compulsory course on "Swedishness" with extremely "tough-looking" passing criteria.
Passing the course to be kept mandatory for all asylum seekers, refugees and their family members before letting them with any extent of longer duration residency status.
It is high time to consider such options in order to reduce intensity of complications such as crime and anti-democratic sentiments.
Racists are those who belittle/insult/... others merely according to where she/he comes from regardless of his/her personal qualifications. We have a poster called "Eurostan" who do this in almost all of his/her posts.
I agree with your proposal. Sometimes these refugees simply don't don't know that they are bothering others. If there was compulsary courses to let them know, then there were no excuse for misbehaviour.
A rasist is someone who believes that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some race with an intrinsic superiority.
There are posts here from people who are totally and unambiguiously rasist.
I wonder how many (hatred) white cells u have in your blood, I advice u to do blood test urgently because high hatred white cells is not healthy not only to u but to others as well.
It is true that certain cultures convey a value system that might diminish abilities of individuals from those cultures in appreciating the truth.
You can repeat this forever and I can always say. All non-Muslims don't rape their daughters but all of those who have raped their daughters since last year have been non-Muslims from Austria,Italy,India,...It simply shows how worthless this approach is! Yes around 100 out of 1'000'000'000 Muslims around the world have terrorised non-Muslims. But how many non-Muslims have terrorised Muslims?
I really don't know how the someone's appearance can make a trouble for others! I always thought that there are other factors that should make up our minds about others!!
Like I said before fortunately it's not you who decide who is welcome and who is not and there are many of like you in Sweden or at least around me!!
Defining racism is not really that difficult. Hitler was a well-known racist. He believed that all Jews are automatically bad because they are Jew. No matter who they are and what they do. This is the same argument we hear from some posters here. Just substitute "Jews" with "Muslims". Another example of racism is the comment above your last comment. That One's appearance makes someone bad regardless who that person is and what he does.
I honestly cannot read or decipher the majority of your post. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make except that "immigrants are good k". You didn't give any evidence of anything. Also, @iraniboy, "All non-Muslims don't rape their daughters but all of those who have raped their daughters since last year have been non-Muslims from Austria,Italy,India" isn't even a little true. What are you even talking about. Are you seriously trying to say that the only daughters who have been raped are the internationally publicized few cases?
And "Defining racism is not really that difficult. Hitler was a well-known racist. He believed that all Jews are automatically bad because they are Jew." Is NOT the definition of racist, and claiming racists are hitler is absolutely ridiculous and you should feel bad for saying that. Racism is the belief that races are different and some are better than others. Not hatred of all people that are not you.
What u have posted is a kind of racial discrimination and it is a type of racism and it is normal thing to meet persons like u everyday, ppl who are full with hatred towards specific group or ethnicity. I understand why ppl like u are doing that, they just want somebody to blame. I feel sorry for u.
I didn't limit racism to Hitler but obviously he was real dangerous racism. His views about Judaism and Jews is similar to th views some posters here and elsewhere.
Unreported rape cases can be among both Muslims and non-Muslims.
Terrorism is not global problem. More than 1000 were brutaly killed in 9/11 but more have been killed by US forces in Afghanistan. I don't blame you, you might have heard/seen more than a million article/tv programs,...about this 1 over 10'000'000 on Muslims but probably not as much about rapists, peodophiles,...
Democracy is the least worst goverments. Don't forget that Germany was also a democracy in 1940s. Fortunately Sweden is democracy along with tolerant people.
Humanity with such minds wouldn`t only go no where but it will go hell indeed but I believe good ppl are more than bad ones. Thx God Sweden keep monitoring such minds from a distance.
The problem is not whether you are white or black, Christian or Muslim, Asian or African, the real problem is people like you who are incapable of addressing your own failings and choose to blame a minority group instead. It is people like you who should not be allowed to live in a civilised and tolerant society.
In the past 8 years I've been travelling to sweden and back on a regular basis, I have seen the decline of the traditional swedish state first hand.
22,000 immigrants annually on a population base of 9million is a significant number.
Are we not advanced enough now to see that believing in omnipotent super-beings who plonked us on a ball of dirt then threw us down a rulebook is well, a bit rediculous? And then for people to start killing people over this garbage? Leave imaginary friends to the children folks.
Religion is fine for a hobby for those that want to get involved, it saddens me to see how it plays such a huge role in so many cultures still though. It had a place in keeping the populace nice and well behaved a few centuries ago perhaps, but in this age of education it's amazing to see otherwise forward-thinking bright individuals seriously genuinely believe that when they die they are going to go to some kind of cocktail party in the sky with a bunch of other dead guys.
Countries laws and norms should not be controlled by fairy tales.
As far as unreported rapes within and outside the Muslim community go, sure. I'm sure there's plenty on both sides. I will also say that the muslim community is probably the only one that punishes women for being raped, and in some cases goes as far to justify it against non-muslims, saying they deserved it.
Swedish integration is . And that´s partly because Sweden let so many in. How the hell is a small town like Malmö supposed to be able to deal with 3000+ a year? Kids in Rosengård dont even speak the language!
Only 5-10% of immigrants are asylum seekers. Let them and people with work qualifications we need in, and give the people who´re already here a chance to adjust to Swedish society before we let more in.
Other posters have asked you to verify your statement, which you have not done. The burden of proof is on the person making the claims, when the claims are so outrageous. Do you care to revise the statement you posted? If I tell you I know at least two Moslem women who were abused by their fathers, and, with just five minutes on the web, I can provide you with a list of well over 100 Moslems convicted of terrorist acts, what would that do to your world view? Maybe nothing- when the lights aren't on, and the blinds are drawn, that usually means nobody's home.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8038398.stm
I can't HEEEEER you.
But I wonder, sometimes...I come from a family of Mormons, I lived next door to Jehovah's witnesses for years, and I like to think I know a little something about missionary work. You go where the ground is fertile, right? I have asked repeatedly on this site for some one, ANYONE, who has been converted to Islam or Christianity or the Great Flying Spaghetti Monster to make him-herself known, and so far, no one has come forth with a shiny clean face, eyes full of hope, screaming, Yes, Yes, My life has changed because of KM (or, insert favourite initials here.)
So why, in God's great name, would anyone come here and think that they'd get lucky? Is it like my ex-husband, who believed if he just begged and pleaded long enough, my resistance would wear down, and I'd give in, just to shut him up? (THAT never worked, either, in case you're reading this thread for relationship tips.) What is it about this little enclave of almost complete nonbelievers (I have now counted three of us who state that we are Christians, and one I rather think might be, but that doesn't mean I'm keeping a secret list, either) that encourages daily solicitations to consider joining, say, Islam, or flavour of the hour? Is it because TL offers a venue where half intelligible English postings are considered reasonable conversion tactics? I truly don't get it- has anyone anywhere in the world actually watched three hour long sermons on Youtube and joined up? If so, wouldn't you sort of wonder about the quality of the conversions?
Yeah, it's Monday after Mother's Day, and I'm worn down by being nice all day long yesterday. I know I sound cranky, but I am actually sincere in my befuddlement- to whom does this kind of nonstop propraganda appeal to?
Drug addiction in Sweden cost the government 60 milliard kronor every year, is it because of the immigrants?
Psychological problems, suicide attempts is a serious problem in Sweden, is it also because of the immigrants?
Swedish doctors as soon as the get the whole benefit of the education system and learn how practice medicine in Sweden , pack his bags and leave to the US and Canada, is it also because of the immigrants?
Cases of pedophilia comited by some swedes not only in Sweden but in other countries, is it also because of the immigrants?
There are problems with immigration in Sweden. End of story.
HAHAHAHA
Last January, I was heading back to Germany and had a conversation with a female immigrant, lived in Germany. Proudly, she said that her mom, brother and his family has been living in Sweden for about 6 years. No job, all supported by the goverment and speak very little Swedish.
My boyfriend is Swede and I once bumped in a Doner, few immigrant teenagers, speak very bad Swedish to the waitress (BF told me, and the waitress had to asked several times).
Honestly, if you compare to that in Germany, you would never complain. I am a student here in Germany and I have to master the language (no question ask, pass DSH exam in 1 year). So I will be looking forward to move to Sweden and off course learn the language (target 1 year!)
how on earth "Rosengårds" popping here and there are good for sweden??
birth rates are low, i know,..but do we need more mohameds??
WHY THE HELL SWEDEN KEEPS OUT PEOPLE WHO CAN INTEGRATE EASILY AND LEAVES THE DOOR OPEN FOR THE ONES WHO IN 10 YEARS WILL NOT SPEAK A WORD OF SWEDISH.?
It's so sad that you didn't hear about those cases.Which part of my statements need to be verified?
Austrian Fritzl
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7371959.stm
Italian Frtizl
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle5989020.ece
Indian Fritzl
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/indias-fritzl-m...rs/88159-3.html
Number of Muslims
0.700 billion or more, Barnes & Noble Encyclopedia 1993
0.817 billion, The Universal Almanac (1996)
0.951 billion, The Cambridge Factfinder (1993)
1.100 billion, The World Almanac (1997)
1.200 billion, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic relations)
http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_numb.htm
So what percent of Muslims are convicted of terrorist attack? If one percent of Muslims were terrorists we might have had 10'000'000 terrorists!! So you can crealy see how the number of terrorists is negligible to the whole population of Muslims. This is just deliberatly exaggerated for political agenda.
I'm not afraid of proof, sir. I thought you knew them!