February 14, 2012
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Swedish universities have begun denying students suspected of illegal file sharing access to school computer networks, prompting criticism from both student groups and file sharing advocates.
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If you download pirate material,you are stealing!
If you breach the rules it is absurd to refuse to accept the consequences.
I,personally, do not agree with the 'rules' that charge crazy high prices for films/music etc. - but stealing it is not a solution. Want to change the system? Stop using the product! Boycott all companies who cannot offer a legitimate download version for,say, SeK 30 - and you use your own HDD space/blank cd-dvd to 'hard copy'.
That said I am also a little confused at how your behaviour can 'improve' to allow a restoration of network access priviledges - when you have been cut off. I guess you still have access to some kind of internal network,but not internet. Is that a correct understanding?
Before jumping to conclusions and assuming that all of these students are stealing "copyrighted material" you have to read again...
"university doesn't verify whether or not the file sharing actually involves copyrighted material,"
for example if someone is downloading linux from Chalmers university or Stockholm university using bit torrents, he/she might be revoked of access.
downloading is NOT stealing:
http://tinyurl.com/6b5wud
This is a sad development indeed, placing guilt on accusation where the accused has to prove his/her innocence and is presumed guilty until they do... without court order, giving higher precedence to "copyright" than their studies... that too towards the end of the academic year.
Right time this is happening though, just in time for Students to vote for the PiratParty.
Just got my voting slip in the mail, guess who I'm voting for ;)
i know what university will look like after few years .
now i will take my flash and will download from computer lab because they cant cut it down.
then university will force login policy .
then my friends will steel my login and will breke security protocols of lab.
then university will assign one computer to one student for 4 hours a day, and still we are not sure that any security can stop it.
why not just ISP do their job and dont tuch students, we are alrady facing other problams in 2011why you want to make it more serious
Does anybody know where i can send the money for the copyright ..I don't want my listening device confiscated by the police...
Downloading in itself is not a crime get your facts straight...its uploading that people think is a crime...the bigger crime though is how much the film and music industry make compared to how many people in the world can't even clothe, shelter and/or feed themselves.
File Sharing by definition is the equivalency of me buying a DVD or CD and mailing (posting) the physical DVD or CD to someone lets say in Japan...Is that a crime? I don't think so...then why should it be a crime to do it online instead of posting it in the mail? Stop tripping and focus your energy on Feeding, Clothing, and sheltering people!
One way or the other we need to get our priorities straight in this world and stop wasting so much time on this issue when we have so many bigger issues at hand!
sruk:
Yeah...send it to my bank account :- P
If you get something for free when you are supposed to pay for it, then it is STEALING! There is no other definition. I don't care if you upload or download. It is still STEALING! People upload because there is a market in it. No one downloads and no one will upload.
You can try and justify it one way or another, but the facts are the facts. If you went into a store and took a copy of it from the shelves and then stuck it in your shirt/coat/bag you are stealing. There is no difference in this and ILLEGALLY downloading something.
No relation, as far as I'm aware. However, we New World unkles have yet to research our family line further than 15 generations back.
As when someone downloads music or a film they are not depriving the owners of anything, the act of downloading is not stealing.
This is why going into a shop and physically taking something is different to downloading copyrighted material. It is true that they may both be illegal but to claim that they are the same is a facile and inaccurate arguement.
Now, one can argue that by downloading something you deprive the copyright owner of the money that you would have spent had you bought the item in question. However I am sure that often people download stuff they never would have payed for. Indeed you can argue that people may actually buy something as a result of hearing / watching it first as a result of an illegal download.
I believe you should call a spade a sapde. To steal is differant to infringing someones copyright end of. Dont try to strengthen your case by misrepresenting it...
Nope, the artist I love get all my hard earned money. Won't do it to them out of respect. Very very subjective but its my choice...
So my buddy loads up his 300 dvd player to my SlingBox on the secondary input and loads it up with all his DVDs and rentals. I am not paying for it and its copyright infringment, but I am not going to loose any sleep over it. Those fat bastards need to maintain a life style that has come and gone and they need to protect the cash cow. Its a loosing battle and it's about damn time.