February 14, 2012
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After two and half years of waiting, immigrants arriving in Sweden will finally be able to obtain Swedish national identity cards.
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In order to avoid that problem, I suggest to get the tax agency identity card and then use that in order to get a bank issued one.
At that point, the bank cannot refuse to issue an identity card.
As far as I know, it's not forbidden to have two Swedish identity cards.
Good luck!
sunshineray
i have been with swedbank for 5yrs and when i lost my ID card and i had to use my passport. they told me NO and that i had to bring in a sweden person to verify me! i wonder if EU citizens will have to have this immigrant card? i'm an american and i never had to have this card in the past. one last thing! why isn't modern states citizens aren't called immigrants(us,uk, can,and others) while others like asians,middle easterners,and africans state citizens are called immigrants? what's the real definition of immigrant?
I am pretty sure that banks will continue to issue idcards as usual.
Here you find the rules for Swedbank:
http://www.swedbank.se/sst/inf/out/infOutWww1/0,,113186_m109_m44_508435,00.html
If your card is still valid just be sure to apply for a new one a couple of months before the expiration date (you find it on the card itself). I did that at the end of january for my handelsbanken card, which was going to expire in march, and no questions asked, just the valid idcard and a photo (maybe they asked if I am a client of the bank, which I am).
Maybe you mean if you have to get this new card even if your bank card is still valid? I don't think so, you can get one if you really really want, but you don't have to.
All the best!
Sunshineray
http://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index.php?showtopic=22285
In reality people make a distinction between immigrants and expats. Immigrants are said to be those coming to stay here permanently whilst expats are those who are only staying here temporarily (usually on contracts without permanent residency). People assume Americans, Canadians, and Brits are only in Sweden temporarily. And there is a lot of truth to this. So it's a perfectly acceptable conclusion to come to when you have no other info, and not the least bit racist. I find it more racist to say that no Asian, Middle Eastern or African states are "modern." That's a very euro-centric outlook, to be sure. It's not even true from a euro-centric outlook.
But I do agree Nilspet is talking sh*t.
As for sunshireray and tigger007 why should someone have to pay extra money for an ID card just not to be predjucided against? It is the small minded people who would call it the 'immigrant card'.
If you want to pick up on any spelling or grammar mistakes please note I dont give a sh*t.
Much love
Jamie, I think not giving a sh*t is the way to go!
There are hundreds of people who hold this,and if they will be turned down the whole project is just a piece of crap.
What's the problem with the word immigrant anyway? Isn't it fair to assume we're all immigrants on this board. A quick browse around the threads and you'd know for damned sure no ones here for just work (no matter how long they've been here ... sadly).
If your bank isnt wiling to do this, I suggest you consider switching to one that will accomodate you better.
When I moved here just over two years ago the banks had already begun restricting who could get ID cards. At this point in time I wouldn't be surprised if the banks say "no, go to Skatteverket" for those who don't already have ID cards.
Also, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if banks decide not to issue ID cards at all. After all, they can point people at another agency to handle this instead of having people take up the bank's time with non-banking related activities.
What is wrong with people nowadays?
they said supposly the bank will close the service issuing ID cards in the future.
Or what about a refugee/asylum seeker who comes here from a country not on that list. Often there's nobody that can vouch for them either.
Clearly they have some things they're going to have to iron out.
*Shrug* I don't have to deal with this problem anymore because Swedbank finally caved, but I'm really bothered that the same problem that existed before is being repeated while also claiming the title of "solution". It's complete BS.
If you're not European and you don't have a parent/siblings/spouse to verify you, don't go there. I was there today. No rush nor queue at all. She told me that non-European people without a family will be more than 90% rejected no matter how many close Swedish friends they have to verify them and they will lose the 400kr application fee. Single non-Euorpean residents are doomed not have any ID this way. She said I have more chance to apply in banks!!
So what is the benefit of all that stuff if non-europeans immigrants have no right to get an ID from them, that is strange. And she told you it is easier for you to get an ID issued from banks?????? was that woman joking or just acting silly ?
@balbright
How for god sake u could read the details of that tiny card above, the only word i could read is SPECIMEN. loool
Actually all of those stuff about "Finally issuing ID card" by thelocal is just a myth. She said this program is especially for those who have ID but their spouse or sister/borthers don't!! She told me she understands IT'S NOT FAIR FROM HER POINT OF VIEWS but they have to follow government's rules.
She told me "If you don't want to lose 400kr, don't apply cause you stand no chance no matter how many Swedish friends you bring here!!"
Try to contact other person in the skatteverket or even another skatteverket in another commune, I have noticed that some staff in the skatteverket or other governmental agencies don`t know their jobs exactly, everyone has a level of knowledge there, if that applies to the old stuff, how is that with the new laws lol.
This is simply a case of "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss".
The problem is that you find your chance after your have lost your money!! It's better to try in Banks. They don't confiscate the money. They just say No or Yes. Oh dear Skatteverket has opened a new chance of earning money!!! That seems to be a wise decision in current economical crisis.
Well my friend is Iraqi christian, he has many relatives in Linköping, and they are swedes, they accompanied him to the banks to issue an ID for him, all the banks: Swedbank, Nordea, SEB, said NEJ!.
So what problem they had solved? that is ridiculous.
I don't know who are responsible for this case but it is totally against mainstream Swedish spirit. It is almost discriminatory. My Swedish friends who were supposed to accompny me told me not back off but I have already requested to take back the money without applying.
My wife who is also an American has an account and a mortgage at SEB. To put me on the mortgage (She bought the house while I was still in the US selling the old one) SEB need proof of our marriage. We supplied a notorized copy of the marriage certificate from the US. SEB in their infinite wisdom (read stupidity) refuse to accept it on account of it being too old. We have been married 20 years. I am about ready to pick up and leave this insanity to the natives.
Meaning this new card will be the standard for everyone
I went today just to see what the que was here in Gothenburg, and the lady here told me I had to bring my Swedish wife along to prove that I am legitimately here in Sweden. I thought my passport with the retarded Immigration Stamp stating I'm a permanent resident was sufficient but I guess not.
From what I understand this is to stop or reduce fraud, the government here just opened another can of worms lol.
This is absolutely unacceptable and ridiculous.
I hope as many people as possible are complaining about this ; I am really feeling discriminated for the first time in my life.
Anywhere you go they ask for ID and when you apply for it, they don't accept as ground that I have no family with ID here. Are international singles doomed to have miserable life here?? I had also paid it. If you haven't applied for ID, you can write letter or they can write a letter to give you the moneh back. It's better than losing it forever!!
i think it is absolutely rediculious that they dont make rules easier for people have no relatives here.
i think we should complain let the goverment know.
When it is ready a letter of notifi cation will be sent to your home telling
you that you can fetch the card from the offi ce where you applied for it."
I find this extremely annoying. I live in Smedjebacken, by Ludvika and the closest Skatteverket office that I can apply for the card in is Västerås. I don't drive. It will cost me more than the fee to travel by bus or train twice to Västerås in order for me to get my card...
They should make this available at all, or at least more Skatteverket offices. I want the card out of convenience as I don't like having to carry my passport with me as identification, but it's certainly very inconvenient to get one of these cards right now.
IMoL
I register on thelocal.se in order to answer your immigrant question because it is too easy.
Definition of immigrant:
1. A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another.
2. A plant or animal that establishes itself in an area where it previously did not exist.
Which one you tiger apply? I guess either 1 or 2, both are right.
I have never ever seen like this where is democracy and justice where is civilisation where is human rights???????????????????????????
Himilo
What's with the whole "this is a human rights violation" schtick lately? It's as though some people hear one person say it and cling to it like flies on even when they aren't quite sure what it really means.
Amazing.
I showed them my passport with my permanent resident stamp. I was told that was not good enough. So I also showed them my other passport (from another country) and I was told that wasn't enough. Only EU passports where accepted.
The next day I came back with my flatmate who had and ID card and wanted to be the person certifying me. But because he wasn't my "boyfriend", we just shared appartment, that wasn't good enough.
The third time I got Migrationsverket to issue an official letter signed and stamped telling Skatteverket that I am the correct person, but that wasn't enough. Instead I was met with an internal memo from Skatteverket saying that even if I brought the guy who issued the official letter from Migrationsverket to sign for me, it wouldn't be good enough.
So let's think about this....
1) I could walk into a Socialstyrelssen and ask them to pay for my living expenses and my rent. But they will not issue to me a little piece of plastic with my photo and my name?
2) I can get free education at any university in Sweden, but they will not give me a little piece of plastic with my photo and my name on it.
3) If I went into a hospital in Sweden and needed 1M worth of surgeries, I would get it but I can't get a little piece of plastic with my photo and my name on it.
4) Once I start working, Skatteverket would take taxes away from my paycheck to partially pay for issuance of ID cards (I suppose). Why can't I get one if I'm paying for it?
Does anybody know if there are any constitutional issues involved here? They accept my identity as far as paying taxes, but they don't accept my identity to function normally in Swedish society! How's that proper?