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'Cyncism prevails for vote-hungry officials in Sweden and Israel'

'Cyncism prevails for vote-hungry officials in Sweden and Israel'

Published: 28 Aug 2009 10:10 GMT+02:00
Updated: 28 Aug 2009 10:10 GMT+02:00

The latest quarrel between Israel and Sweden is a particularly ugly one. Although some of the points made by both sides are valid, they are contaminated by cynicism and false innocence on the Swedish side and by inadequate and inappropriate reactions on the Israeli side. This may be the time, almost two weeks after the publication of the original article in Aftonbladet, for both sides to take a fresh look at the situation and to reconsider a new course of action.

It would be wise to begin with what started the tension in the first place – the article itself. I don't know Donald Boström, the journalist who wrote it and I'm not a regular reader of Aftonbladet, but I read the article titled "Our sons plundered for their organs" more than once and it must be said that before being inciting or inflammatory it's simply bad journalism, if it can be called journalism at all. Don't take my word for it. Read it yourself: in Swedish or in one of the web-based translations in English.

There's no proof of anything, no real investigation and no news value whatsoever. It's a bizarre combination of speculation, unconfirmed testimonies and half truths from old, washed up stories. Anything goes as long as it can summon up the words Israel, war-crimes and stolen organs along with a picture of an autopsied body. Expressions like "serious accusations" and "questions remain" used throughout the article, remind one of those low budget conspiracy theories.

Here's just a taste of the article's negligence – first of all, the main story, which is one of many unrelated stories, is 17 years old which makes it well-nigh impossible to confirm. Second, Boström makes no attempt to contact the Israeli Ministry of Defence, the Israeli Forensic Pathology centre or representative for the Israeli medical profession. In fact the only Israeli he claims to have interviewed (a soldier) is unnamed, we don't get his rank or his position and we don't get any context to the interview. The same applies to the UN staff Boström claims to have talked to. Maybe this is designed to create an atmosphere of secrecy and mystery but journalism isn't about atmosphere: it's about facts. And facts are not a high priority for Boström who makes too many sloppy mistakes.

Why, for example, would soldiers, who as Boström claims, are sent out to steal organs, deliberately shoot the people they're stealing organs from in the chest or the stomach, when it's common knowledge that organs cannot be harvested from bodies with serious chest wounds? Even the family members whose evidence is the only "source" to the story are now distancing themselves from Boström's report and are claiming that they never said that organs were stolen. It's as if an Israeli reporter would visit Sweden and 17 years later publish an article about witnessing a group of blond, drunken Vikings (just like Boström uses stereotypes of IDF soldiers) kidnapping and murdering a Norwegian woman. He can't prove it, he spoke to no one about it, and there are no "sources" other than relatives and an anonymous cop. But, obviously, these are serious accusations and many questions remain.

Israelis are right in claiming this is the stuff blood libels against Jews were always made from. But that, I think, is not the point here. It's more important that this is the stuff a certain kind of modern journalism is made from. Just like the English Sun and the German Bild, Aftonbladet needs human-sacrifice, and the Jews, though far from being the only victims, are indeed ideal ones. They were in the medieval shtetl and they still are in 21st century journalism.

The differentiation between Jews and Israel in this case, like in many others, is wishful thinking on the part of many. In reality, there is no differentiation. Like it or not, Israel and the Jewish people are intertwined, each paying the price when the other is attacked, each rising and falling with the others' successes and failures. Aftonbladet knows this of course and takes advantage of it. They can make racist attacks disguised as legitimate political journalism.

Theirs isn't traditional anti-Semitism based on religion (the Jews killed Jesus). It isn't even modern anti-Semitism (the Jews are rich and control the world). This is post modern anti-Semitism. It's all about ratings and it's business orientated. It sells newspapers. Nobody cares about the truth because it's subjective anyway, nobody has time for research and you can definitely count on it that no one will take responsibility. The writer gets his 15 minutes of fame; the paper makes millions. And damn the consequences.

But it's not just about money; it's also about politics too. The never ending and, quite frankly, tedious text Swedish officials use about freedom of speech is not relevant in this case. First of all, despite the claims of various official spokespeople, it is not absolute and untouchable, even in Sweden: witness the Danish Muhammad cartoons, and various regulations, self-censorship and safeguards that protect Swedes from offensive commercials and sensitive publications.

Sweden is very firm when it defends the rights of large minorities or powerful establishments (like Aftonbladet) but much less decisive when it comes to weaker groups or even the general public. This is why authorities in Malmö preferred to defend the right of an angry mob to boycott a tennis match between Israel and Sweden than to defend the right of the general public to watch the match.

Is Sweden's Foreign Minister, Carl Bildt, really so naïve that he thinks that freedom of speech in Sweden applies equally to everyone and works equally for every one? I don't think so. When he says that free press and free speech are the best defence against "breaches of judgment, bad taste and transgressions of core societal values", he knows very well that these freedoms can very easily be used to wage attacks on minorities by an aggressive majority. Israel isn't a minority in Sweden but an attack against it is very popular in many circles. This is where Bildt's claims have a cynical twist. Defending freedom of speech in this case earns him the support of many. Especially valuable is the support of many on the other side of the Swedish political spectrum. What politician would object to that?

To be fair, Bildt and Sweden's political establishment didn't have to limit freedom of speech; they weren't requested to close down Aftonbladet or to censor it. Instead of flying empty slogans which hide political interest, all they needed to do was to say they don't believe the allegations and they see them as provocative and irresponsible. That's not taking sides, it's just being fair-minded. Instead of that, Bildt chose to distance himself from Sweden's ambassador to Israel who did exactly that. He did the math: no one gains political points in Sweden from pleasing Israel. Quite the opposite.

But the cynicism is not limited to the Swedish side. Israel too is responsible for the deterioration of the situation. Every state has the right to defend itself against slander and lies, even if they're published in a paper thousands of miles away. But there must be some kind of discretion in choosing methods of defence and counter attack. I would like to know, for example, who chose to use the holocaust card as the first reaction. Surely, of all the arsenal of Israeli arguments, another one could have been used against a Swedish tabloid, Auschwitz could have been saved for say, states that say they want to annihilate Israel and are in the process of building the weapons to do it. If, according to Israel's Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, the Afonbladet article is like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and Bildt's refusal do condemn it is equivalent to Sweden's WW2 neutrality, then what is left for going after terrorist attacks against Jewish and Israeli targets and against genocidal, fascist regimes?

Perhaps it's time for Israeli spokespeople to learn the power of understatement. A simple and straight-forward statement denying the allegations and denouncing those who spread them, accompanied with a nuanced "you should be ashamed of yourselves" would have done the job. If Israel wants to take it a step further, why not show the world the power of civil debate and education? Why not organize a seminar for journalists on the connection between irresponsible journalism and hate crimes? Why not get Jewish organizations around the world to promote educational projects about anti-Semitism in the world today and invite Swedish teachers and students to join?

The point is not that the memory of the holocaust cannot be used in current public debate: it can and it should. It should be used by Israelis searching for their identity and moral values, it should be used around the world to fight racism and discrimination and it should be used moderately and responsibly. It's true any official using Hitler and Goebbels for a diplomatic dispute is bound to get in the papers. The problem is that those papers are exactly the same kind as the one that started the current controversy. When Lieberman speaks, he's not a speaker on a soapbox and he's not in an academic seminar. His remarks are documented, they're binding and they have consequences. Does anyone take this into account before statements are released?

In general, much of Israel's reaction was confused and embarrassing. First, we heard Israeli officials claiming that Carl Bildt is not welcome in Israel if he doesn't apologize. He obviously didn't apologize and now we are told that no one actually really intended to cancel his September visit. If Bildt's visit to Israel is important, how could anyone consider cancelling it because of an independent newspaper article? If it isn't, why waste tax payer's money on it in the first place? The sad truth is that no Israeli politician ever lost points attacking "those anti-Semitic Scandinavians" and no public figure in Israel has anything to lose from a good old display of patriotism.

And so, while Israeli bloggers are suddenly all experts on Sweden's foreign policy in the forties and Swedish bloggers know all about Israeli organ transplant procedures, we come to a full circle. Everybody's happy. Lieberman gets lots of headlines that are not related to the criminal charges pending against him; Carl Bildt becomes a champion of freedom of speech and broadens his electorate; Aftonbladet sells more papers and the Swedish and Israeli public can start a new round of boycotts and demonstrations. Everybody's happy.

Well, everybody but me. It's not easy being an Israeli in Stockholm these days. Even those who don't believe what they read in Aftonbladet blame Israel for being paranoid and hysterical. Everything you see on the news is annoying and there's always the fear that something may happen, that someone may do something. It's not like it hasn't happened before.

Obviously I'm not suggesting that Swedish or Israeli policy will be made according to my convenience, but here's a thought: if policy makers could only learn to lower the flames instead of fanning the fire, any fire, and thus spread more light than heat onto our public discourse, then life wouldn't only be better for Israelis living in Sweden. I think it would probably be better for everyone else too.

David Stavrou (news@thelocal.se)

Your comments about this article

11:59 August 28, 2009 by Lea
David,

Thanks a lot for a well-weighted article outlining the current conflict. Being Israeli in Scandinavia is indeed not easy, just as you say. My he, who's up above, help us all.
13:42 August 28, 2009 by allanclare
Thanks for the insight.

Allan Clare, Bristol, UK.
13:43 August 28, 2009 by Rick Methven
Finally!

A sound, well reasoned comment on the whole sorry mess from an Israeli.

David, I whole heartedly concur with what you wrote and the tone that you used. I propose the you replace Mark Regev as the official Israeli spokesman. Your sound analysis and conciliatory tone would greatly improve the attitude of the worlds press towards Israel
13:49 August 28, 2009 by mehrdad1111
good article but i would say there is a vaild reason why israel and jews reaction is so "paranoid and hysterical".

no other folk in the world faced that what jews faced during WW2 with 60% of the jewish world population killed by the nazis...the real existing threat of totaly extermination. when hitler would be sucesfull, there would be no jews around the world today.

like a excellent german journalist (hendrk m broder) said, the industrial killing of jews did not begun with auchwitz..it begun with articles like the one in Aftonbladet in german newspaper like "der stürmer". it was a slow process whichs goal was to dehumanize the jewish people.

this antisemitic swedish leftisi newspaper is doing exactly the same. it dehumanize the IDF and connects the story directly into the jewish religion by bringing "connections" to the criminal case in new jersy.

this systematic dehumanization can be observed in the muslim world with:

-jews as apes and pigs

-the source of AIDS and swine flu.

-the mysterious power which rules the world.

now we have such a propaganda in swedish media and this can be look in as only one step to dehumanize the jews again. we have antisemitism in the whole muslim world and in europe...we have "judenrein" muslim countries like we have stürmer-like propaganda again in the muslim world and the muslim parallel worlds in europe and we have city parts in the middle of europe in which rabbis advice their community to not walk around with kipa and other typical jewish signs.

the jews recognize that systematicly repeating of what led to auchwitz and thats the reason for their reaction.
14:06 August 28, 2009 by Beynch
There's nothing like the real truth. Where is Aftonbladet's evidence?
14:22 August 28, 2009 by Iraniboy
I don't say this Aftonbladet's claim is true but why not? For IDF with the following history:

Attack on UN bases

Attack on UN protected school

Attacking Red Credent Abulances

Racial attack illustared on their T-Shirts like:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Israeli-Army-T-Shirts-Mock-Killing-Palestinian-Women-And-Children-During-Gaza-Offensive/Article/200903315245946?

So why shouldn't a journalist suspect a stitched body of a dead Palestinian?
15:37 August 28, 2009 by irit22
As a jew I am very afraid these days.
22:45 August 28, 2009 by lingonberrie
Light on the subject is just what the Zionists do not want.

The glare of the light that is revealing their crimes is causing them to scream, rant, rave, sue, demand and otherwise hysterically react to what has already been documented.

Next, they will be saying that they never invaded Lebanon and that their Gaza maintained ghetto is really a Garden of Eden.

Take them to the World Court for their stockpile of illegal nuclear weapons, just as Iran is now being taken over the coals for their suspected nuclear weapons development, as yet a pipe-dream, by AIPAC and their stooge, the United States.

Sweden owes them nothing.
00:54 August 29, 2009 by Captcha
lingonberrie, were you by change throwing rocks at the fireman last night in Gothenburg ?
01:16 August 29, 2009 by lingonberrie
I was not by "cha n ge" in Gothenburg, but had I been I would have doused the hoodlums with gas and watched them run.

That would have saved the police from making an unnecessary trip and the firemen would not have had to worry about rock-throwers.

I do not believe that any one of the rock-throwers were Native-Born Swedes.

Since I am a Swede through genes and un-bringing, why would I throw rocks at Swedish firemen?

Are you Swedish?
03:37 August 29, 2009 by La Figaro
A well written article but obviously written by an Israeli. Here's the gospel truth, if the US rabbis who traded in organs weren't caught and articles published about it, the same reaction will be observed, it will be called blood libel, anti-semitism etc.

Here's my point, whether this story is true or not, there is already enough tension between the Israelis and Palestinians so why would the Israelis take away the body of a dead palestinian & then return the body with a huge cut running from chin to the groin???

Are organs really being harvested or are they practising autopy on those bodies? What of the Scot Alastair Sinclair who allegedly committed suicide in an Israeli prison, when his body was returned to Scotland, it was observed that some organs were missing. What of the ukrainian (can't recall his name) whose body was missing organs too?
05:28 August 29, 2009 by ilan
ebutuoy it !

Hamas use UN ambulance to smuggle terrorists in Gaza

Resurrection in Palestine

British Colonel Declares "The IDF Did More to Safeguard Civilians Than Any Other Army

Female Homicide Bomber (suicide)

Palestinian terrorists shooting rockets from a school

hamas using boy as human shield
07:09 August 29, 2009 by Tony Ryals
In my opinion David Stavrou should not quote the Russian mafiosi Israeli Finance Minister Avigdor Lieberman, who openly hates Israeli Palestinians as well as Palestinians in general,if he wants any credibility for being as Fox News says,(ha), 'fair and balanced'. David Stavrou, in criticising Aftonbladet says,''Theirs isn't traditional anti-Semitism based on religion (the Jews killed Jesus)....'

David is now repeating the false or mythological version for the origen of Eastern European Jews that got them in so much trouble in the first place.

I only wish David could or would say he is not a 'semite' but this is how far it has gone I'm afraid.The very justification for Jews of Eastern European origen to now occupy Israel is based upon mythology as exemplified in that old saying ,'Next year in Jerusalem'.

As to the organ rumor all I can say is that if the bodies of Palestinians many of whom had already been shot by the IDF but still alive when they were hauled off by them then return so mutilated that it fosters a rumor or tall tale that organs have been extracted somewhere in between then this means the bodies have been mutilated for some unexplainable reason after the fact and this should be investigated and clarified.

The recent arrest of a number of New Jersey mayors and rabbis including an Israeli American in New Jersey who was money laundering as well as trafficking in human organs between Israel and the U.S.and was arrested by the U.S. FBI along with a number of New Jersey mayors and rabbis only a short with ago there justifies a deeper investigation of rumors of illegal organ transplants around the world.

I was and remain appauled by the fact that on 9/11 Logan Airport in Boston was 'guarded by Israelis retired from the military as well as Ezra Harel and Menachem Atzmon who had previously been convicted of money laundering in Israel between the Israeli government and the Likud Party and that he is a personal aquaintence of high level Israeli politicians Ehud Olmert and PM Benyamin Netanyahu among others.And even though Kuwaitis have a stronger historic claim to being 'semites' I still do not consider myself 'anti-semitic' for pointing out the historic fact that Dulles Airport, Washington, D.C. was being guarded on that same day by the KuAM or Kuwait American Company - Securacom - that was run by Marvin Bush(least known of the Bush brothers)as well as his presumed cousin Wirt Walker III and a member of the Al Sabah family of Kuwait,(who coincidentally hated or 'blood hated' Saddam Hussein.And both the Israeli's ICTS Internatiional Hunteigh airport rent-a-cops as well as the Bush-Al Sababh Securacom financed themselves with stock fraud against American investors !
07:25 August 29, 2009 by mysticbumwipe
I was hoping for a fair analysis. But I'm afraid this isn't it.

Again the position taken is that the Aftonbladet article is based on

prejudiced and suspect evidence.

Yet absolutely NO EVIDENCE is offered to show why that position should be accepted.

The case of Bilal Ahmed Ghniyan is not rumour, nor "speculation, unconfirmed testimonies and half truths".

And thus we see the denial ieven in this RELATIVELY fair-minded Israeli response.

I emphasise the word 'relatively' as compared to most of the Israeli responses that I have this is wonderfully even-handed.

But that it is what I find so deceptive. It isn't really. Just ask Bial.

Oh no. You can't. He was shot and critically wounded for ALLEGED stone throwing in the past (would that be based on "speculation, unconfirmed testimonies and half truths"?".

and then forcibly removed by a foreign force (IDF) to a different country (kidnapping?)

and then returned five days later dead, minus his teeth and with a surgical cut from his abdomen to his chin.

So as people sharing an increasingly iterdependent planetI appeal to all reading this: be reasonable; be humane; have some sense of compassion and empathy.

Who is the real victim here?

The many people like Bilal and their sorrowing families?

Or the IDF, or Jews in general, or Israelis in general?
13:22 August 29, 2009 by mehrdad1111
@mysticbumwipe:

the jews are the victims here. why?

-because what is a regular rule about beeing guilty or not, is changed when its against the jews. now, not the palis who have the body! are forced to open it and prove that something is missing, but the israelis must prove that they are not guilty. what would be absurd at any civilizied court is normal when it comes to jews and israel.

-because one must be realy stuppid when he realy belives that its a a accident when a newspaper with a long antisemitic history (comparing ramallah to auchwitz for example or bringing articles from leftist antisemits who reject israels right to exist) brings this absurd allegation about israel and jews.

grow up and instead of defending free speech against the "evil jews" defend your country against islamic invasion and your swedish women and girls from beeing raped by thousends of muslims year by year.
18:00 August 29, 2009 by govindh
Great article-very balanced. Fitting answer to the tripe
20:35 August 29, 2009 by DamnImmigrant
I have heard nothing about what Aftonbladet has done to these employees that allowed this article to be published and I have not heard anything from the newspaper either.

A newspaper's success is determined by its journalistic integrity! An article like this has caused the papers integrity to fail in the extreme.

The reporter, who by now should have been reassigned to less challenging reporting, like covering weddings and day school graduations, is NOT at fault for this MINDBOGGLINGLY bad and extremely DANGEROUS article.

The reporter can write what they want but it is NOT their newspaper so they do NOT get to say WHAT gets published. That is the job of the editors.

I figure that at least 2 editors did not do their jobs and allowed this nonsense to be published AS FACT!

Have they also been reassigned to less challenging jobs at the newspaper?
22:05 August 29, 2009 by Cornelius Hamelberg
Mark Regev has always been a clear-sighted and lucid spokesman - at least in his frequent appearances on BBC World news.

"Like it or not, Israel and the Jewish people are intertwined" true.

http://www.paideia-eu.org/pdf/LandOfIsrael.pdf

It's the Almighty, the Torah, the people of Israel and the land of Israel . It's an eternal relationship.

The same cannot be said about the Israel- Sweden relations or indeed of Israel - Arab relations, even if Israel is destined to have the Arabs and the deep blue sea as permanent neighbours.

About the never never land of not knowing, there is a saying, " Between the devil and the deep blue sea."

Israel-Sweden relations did not begin yesterday and to get a fair idea I should like to refer those who have not yet read this, to get acquainted with Israel's former ambassador to Sweden Moshe Yegar's book ( published in 1993) . "Neutral policy--theory versus practice: Swedish-Israeli relations‎" for a history and analysis of that troubled and now troubling relationship.

http://news.google.com/news/search?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=Israel

There are so many separate strands to this ever evolving discussing in which the opposing sides and the opposing views do not seem to be getting any closer to a resolution, compromise or dénouement - and so I suppose that we all wait with bated breath for the arrival of Mr.Bildt in Jerusalem - and the kind of mood he is likely to be in after the obligatory visit to the Yad Vashem will probably further open his heart to grim reality.

I have every confidence that he is and he will.

One of the separate strands that I should like to address here is he (or she ?) the self-styled JohnnyTango who wrote "All that has been written has been written by the victors with the victims to only rest in peace"

In sympathy with Johnny - and as an exhortation to Hamas and their un-abrogated but (unlike the Qur'an) abrogable charter, I should - in sympathy - like to quote Chairman Arafat who on many occasions advocated,

" The peace of the brave

Not the peace of the grave"

as the way forward. - and for those unfamiliar with the charter, there is a commentary by Y.Harkabi, entitled " The Palestinian Covenant and its Meaning". As a counterbalance a reasonable compromise approach, I suggest a closer look into Bassam Tibi 's "Islam between Culture and Politics."

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00:21 August 30, 2009 by lingonberrie
Mr. Savage, of The Local, felt compelled to respond to the Zionist PM. However, a new registration was needed to make a comment. Why is that? Why were his remarks not posted in this forum?

Mr. Savage demeans himself; he demeans the Swedes that he represents as a Swedish journalist; and he demeans Sweden, by responding to that radical Zionist. As well, Mr Savage is not in a position to make a remark about what might or might not be in the principal Swedish politicians minds. That is pure conjecture.

The responding comments that were generated by Mr Savage's action were mostly from radical Israelis whom I suspect are a part of a concerted Zionist initiated propaganda pogrom against Sweden.

Whether relations are at "new low" between Sweden and Israel or not, does not concern me a whit.

Someone should send the Zionist P.M. a box of Swedish snus and direct him to chew and to swallow the contents.
14:07 August 30, 2009 by dafdaf
A first class article.
17:16 August 30, 2009 by LenaNYC
If FM Bildt had not "distanced" himself from Ambassador to Israel Bonnier's balanced, diplomatic response, then FM Lieberman would have had no cause to escalate the protest. The government of Sweden' absence of moral courage gives credibility to such outrageous lies as published by Aftonbladet.

I like the newest twist. Der Spiegel reports on harvesting of body parts by a German corporation from Ukrainian corpses. The British are reporting on China's policy of harvesting body parts from condemend prisoners.

Interesting how the truthful reporting of body part harvesting fails to get much media echo unless Israel or a Jew is involved.

Yes, Bildt was looking for votes. This government is failing Sweden with a clueless economic policy.

What I find very troubling is how the Swedish labor unions support the Israel-bashing through their part ownership of Aftonbladet. Why would I ever want to buy anything made by such people?
18:11 August 30, 2009 by israeli
lea

why live in a country that do not want you? that makes its inhabitants feel bad and unwanted? there are better places on earth than sweden. even israel with all its problems is better that the melancholic and disturbed country of sweden,

abba volvo and ikea wil never make a person happy.
19:14 August 30, 2009 by Tony Ryals
LenaNYC,

So LenaNYC lauds Avigdor Lieberman.Israeli Finance Minister Avigdor Lieberman is Russian mafia and not a 'semite'.He has been involved with Austrian Jewish billionaire and money launder Martin Schlaff who traded with Russia during cold war and for whatever reason was allowed by the U.S.government to involve himself in U.S.penny stock frauds with the Ukranian Israeli Grin brothers using Bawag Bank of Austria,Union and Leumi Banks of Israel for their fraud and money laundering ops.(And Leumi Bank won't even pay holocaust survivers what it owes them.)

Israel was the country Hitler and Rothschild's founded one way or the other and Rothschild perhaps even helped make billionaires out of the new Jewish oligarchs of Russia and took over Yukos oil himself from one of the oligarchs who somehow found himself in trouble.So the Rothschild's or some of them must approve of the mafiosi Lieberman's money laundering ops and turning Israel into or or maintaining it as the money laundering capital of the world.And because the well connected mafiosi Avigdor Lieberman who lives on occupied Palestinian land and has profited from Congo 'blood diamonds' I'd watch my back with that scumbag and Swedish leaders and the EU for that matter should watch his

'business' activities.He and a number of Israeli 'leaders'

and ex leaders should be arrested including ex PM Ehud Olmert for aiding and abetting stock fraud in America .The New York Rabbi Morris Talansky who bribed him was investor along with Abraham Wolfson and sons in the Global Technologies 'IFEN' stock scam that is suspect in having 'accidentally' brought down Swissair 111 off the coast of Nova Scotia in 1998.

Israelis were involved with 9/11 but so were the Saudi elite,

Al Sabah royals of Kuwait and probably some powerful European wingnuts.Royal Dutch Shell got in on the petroleum deals by the puppet and real 'islamofascist' government the U.S. war fraud installed there and it was two Dutch men after all who trained Mohamed Atta at Jeb Bush's pal Wally Hilliard's Huffman Aviation in Venice, Florida.It would make a good fiction if it weren't true.

I wonder what LenaNYC thinks of Odigo the Israeli stock fraud that received the only supposed warning from Osama bin Laden just before 9/11 or ICTS International Menachem Atzmon and Ezral Harel whose ICTS International 'guarded' Logan Airport Boston on 9/11 ? Real business geniuses and fine examples of Israeli 'businessmen' wouldn't you say LenaNYC ?

Rothschild Runs Yukos3 Nov 2003 ... www.policestateplanning.com/rothschild_runs_yukos.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/02/israel-avigdor-lieberman-police-investigation

Israeli police recommend corruption charges against Avigdor Lieberman• Minister suspected of money laundering
19:26 August 30, 2009 by AnatoleE
Aftonbladet publishes bad articles all the time. Every other article is ill-researched, sensationalistic and tacky. It's a glorified sleaze tabloid. So Isreal is not being specifically singled out in this case.

Representatives of the Swedish government aren't in the habit of providing official reviews on the quality of published newspaper articles. Neither should they be. It would be dangerously close to censorship (please note that I said CLOSE to censorship, I know no one demanded the Swedish officials to censor the media) if they did.

Call the Swedish response (or lack thereof) tiresome or cynical if you wish, but I find that people often pull out the "cynicism" card when they are confronted with uncomfortable truths.

As George Bernard Shaw said; "The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who have not got it."
21:43 August 30, 2009 by wolfbay
Thanks for the very well reasoned article.The whole situation has made me uncomfortable as well.I'm an American with Swedish ancestors on my mothers side and Russian Jews on my fathers side.I've visited Sweden three times and have Swedish friends.I like the country but I think there is an anti-israeli bias there.It's probably understandable with some vestiges of the old anti-semitism

(Stockholm had it's jewish ghetto like other parts of Europe) and a rapidly growing Muslim population with increasing political power.
22:24 August 30, 2009 by Tony Ryals
Oh no 'anti-semites'in Tel Aviv as well.Maybe they are Swedes posing as Semites ?

http://www.jewcy.com/tags/avigdor_lieberman

Tel Avivians Have a Headache

by Mya Guarnieri, June 2, 2009

On a recent Friday night, Tel Aviv ran out of the Israeli equivalent of Tylenol. A killer migraine throbbing away, I went to not one, not two, but six grocery stores in search of relief. "What's going on in this city?" a clerk asked me. "Everyone's got a headache."

Maybe it's because we have a lot to wrap our heads around. Tel Aviv, the capital of Israeli secularism, recently marked its 100th anniversary. But we celebrated under the pall of Jerusalem's changing-of-the-guard—including Liberman's ominous "If you want peace, prepare for war."

Anat Litvak, a 29-year-old educational psychologist, doesn't mince words. "I hate it," she says of the new government. "Netanyahu is a manipulator, a dictator." When asked if this government represents her, Litvak quickly answers, "No." Litvak feels she speaks for many Tel Avivians, "Here, I feel very much like part of the consensus," she says. "But in situations like elections you see that most of the country isn't like Tel Aviv. It's a shock.".....

As critics of this Israeli government have repeatedly argued in reference to its proposed domestic policies, this is the first government in Israel's history that has formally called into question the health of the country's democracy. Best identified with the anti-Arab incitement of Deputy Prime Minister Avigdor Lieberman, (and now cabinet member Alex Miller) and to a lesser degree, their Israel Beiteinu party's proposals to swap Israeli Arab communities for settlements, for Israelis to sign loyalty oaths to the state, obtain national ID cards, and to restrict civil rights, the concerns are wholly justified. Such a political program is patently authoritarian.
23:28 August 30, 2009 by mo aj
I think in today world if some one talk something anti israel then he gona be killed by Mosad, CIA or FBI because of the huge loby of jews in USA. so any one who will comment something about israel will not mention huis name. so the names of the people interwied can be keept secret. no one can dare to talk about israel. even me afraid thats why we write from anynomous names....
23:38 August 30, 2009 by Tony Ryals
The author of 'We're all Anti-Semites Now' quoted below, is by a Henry Makow Ph.D.,who invented a game called 'scruples' and is pretty interesting.He is a critic of 'feminism' for some reason but I don't think he advocates burning them at the stake,(hee hee),or anything.Further while he doesn't talk about it much and is a Canadian born in Switzerland,I think he was born Jewish.If I am mistaken anyone is welcome to correct me.What he says about Hitler's cooperation with Zionists in the founding of modern Israel is interesting too but that is in another article.

Actually and paradoxically one of my favorite authors Arthur Koestler was a Zionist in the 1920s and I believe he invented the first Hebrew crossword puzzle.He also wrote a book called

'Thirteenth th Tribe' shortly before he died on the

non-semitic origen of Eastern European Jews but I was a fan of his long before that because of his biography of Johanes Kepler who discovered the planets' eliptical orbits titled,

'The Watershed'. :

http://www.henrymakow.com/were_all_anti-semites_now.html

We're all Anti-Semites Now

June 26, 2009

By Henry Makow Ph.D.

Anti-Semitism used to refer to a racial prejudice against Jews. Now "hate" is a codeword for something else: Opposition to Zionism, a political program that many Jews find repugnant.

By equating "hate" with opposition to Zionism, organized Jewry has given everyone permission to be an anti-Semite.

In Soviet Russia, anti-Semitism was considered "counter revolutionary" and severely punished. Similarly, anti-Semitism is now a political crime in the West because it runs counter to the New World Order.

For example, a Winnipeg journalist, Leslie Hughes, was dropped as a Liberal candidate in the 2008 election for remarking on Israeli foreknowledge of the 9-11 attack in an 2003 article. She was quoting an Israeli newspaper. She taught courses on tolerance and had no feelings of hostility against Jews whatsoever. Her crime was political. (She is suing the Jewish groups.)
00:41 August 31, 2009 by maksim
Forgive my Incoherence:

Not all Zionists are Jews, and not all Jews are Zionists. I am a Jew, and can only sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians, and believe that the creation of the state of Israel, was the most anti-semitic, or anti-Jewish act in the history of the Jews. After the second world war, Europe behaved like a very poorly behaved child does after a temper-tantrum. The child destroys his room, and cleans up almost all of it, but to spite his parents, he throws the stuff he doesnt care about into the closet. The stuff he doesnt care about, happened to be the Jews. That closet, happened to be Palestine. What remained of that set of toys, which Europe called Jews, were very pleased to be thrown into that closet, due to the fact that they were hidden from the destructive child. Little did this set of toys know, they were thrown into a bin, with another set of toys. This set of toys happened to be living peacefully, and had also wanted to be left alone from the destructive boy. Now the all the bins in the closet are full, and there is no place to store all his new toys. Thus, he hates the toys he just put in the bin, all broken and mangled. He can't ask his parents for a new bin, because there is no more room in the closet, and he cant get rid of them, because then his parents will know the truth of his destructiveness, so the child just sits in anger, and blames the Jew toy for all his problems and anger.

In essence, the state of Israel was only created to perpetuate anti-Semetism. Jews in the Middle East had gotten along much better with their neighbors, the muslims, than the Jews in Europe.Until the creation of the Zionist state, no muslim state slaughtered 6 million Jews. No muslim state slaughtered Jews in the Crusades, and no Jews slaughtered muslims in the crusades. Jews and Muslims are the victims of European Christiandom, but like the boy, Europe doesnt want the parents, or the People of Europe, to know. Israel is a source for hate of Jews, it is a source for goverments to provide a scape goat for the worlds problems, versus the people looking into their own governments, and finding the governments problems. Israeli's commit autrocities because they have to. Thats what their faux allies want, and they are tricked. They are a perpetual scape goat. I believe the Jews and Muslims should unite together against their oppressors, and demand that Jews can freely move back to Europe, and not be hated, yet I also believe that that the Arab Jewish minority should be allowed to remain in Palestine, as their ancestors did.
01:27 August 31, 2009 by LenaNYC
@TonyRyals: I am an American who, until the Davis Cup tennis match in Malmo, has always admired Sweden. Your disprespect for Israel's Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman is inappropriate and unnecessarily abusive. The Local now joins Aftonbladet in the journalism hall of shame for allowing this string of comments to be without moderation.

FM Lieberman is correct in using the metaphor of the Protocols. It was Henry Ford Senior's re-publication without copyright of the Protocols in the 1920's that gave enormous global credibility to that lie that never dies . Why? Ford, Senior was the most respected businessman in the world at the time. He could not withdraw what he wrote, and the Protocols are still widely published in many languages.

Now FM Bildt and Aftonbladet offer Sweden's endorsement of these accusations without evidence.

Does Sweden want to be seen in the world as intolerant and her unions even more intolerant through their ownership of Aftonbladet?

What does Sweden stand for?
02:23 August 31, 2009 by Tony Ryals
maksim You remind me of so many who were born jewish who I've admired and respected for so long(though I never called or saw them as jews they were just my fellow Americans).I could cry because for various reasons I have stumbled upon the worst of the worst of 'jews' or better said zionists and mafia who in my pre-computer reality didn't even exist.I just happened to be thrown into an internet closet by Charles Schwab in 2000 with money from an inheritance and was defrauded and then became involved with a Stanford University penny stock scam called Endovasc,(that went up 500% immediately following 9/11 as if in celebration then collapsed back down again,a 'pump and dump').Strangely it also involved the Austrian-Israeli Martin Schlaff of Sharon and Olmert and Netenyahu gambling casino fame on Arafat land by way of the Union Bank and the Ukranian-Israeli Grin brothers but also the founder of Steve Forbes' U.S.National Taxpayers Union James Dale Davidson,who with pennsylvania billionaire Richard Mellon-Scaife started the Bill Clinton killed Vince Foster rumor.Nonetheless James Dale Davidson was a big contributer if not money launderer for Clinton before that.Strangely enough J.D.Davidson also wrote a euology to Ezra Pound upon his death in 1973.

Recently James Dale Davidson has been involved with Israeli mafia using leumi bank to run a 'stem cells from placentas' penny stock fraud against americans and frank carlucci of ex U.S. president George Herbert Walker Bush,et.al.'s bin Laden connected Carlyle who is not jewish and suspect in the death many years ago of Patrice Lumumba is also involved!So apparently Leumi Bank money launderers work with an ex CIA suspect in death of African leader ! And the Israeli government encourages this kind of 'business' and the U.S..government looks the other way as Americans are defrauded and money is laundered through Leumi that won't reimburse holocaust survivers whose families' money it took !

And I've already mentioned Menachem Atzmon the deceased Ezra Harel and other ex Israeli military who 'guarded Logan Airport on 9/11 as well as Marvin Bush and Kwait Al Sabah royals' Securacom stock fraud 'guarding' Dulles Airport Washington,D.C. !EVEN THE WINGNUT JOHN FOSTER DULLES WOULD BE TURNING IN HIS GRAVE....

Henry Makow makes the same point as you about Euro or German-Jewish repatriation.

http://www.henrymakow.com/hitler_was_a_godsend_for_israe.html

Hitler was a Godsend for Israel

by Henry Makow Ph.D.

If Hitler didn't exist, Zionists would have had to create him. Maybe they did.
07:17 August 31, 2009 by maksim
I think its quite the opposite actually. If the Jews didnt exist, Christians would create Jews. I am just proof of that. Henry Makow, is proof that he has actually been brainwashed into white Christiandom, into self hate. If you read Antisemite and Jew, by Sartre, it shows exactly how this complex happens, the inauthentic Jew. The jews did not create Hitler, because Germany immediately accepted and continues to accept, that the killed 6 million Jews, and 5 million others. A country like Turkey, which committed terrible attrocities in Armenia in 1918, continues to this day, to deny the extermination of 2 million innocent Armenians. If you look at the history of the Jews, Jews have power in the banking system, because they were banned from everything else. Even if a Jew wanted to serve his country, he was not allowed to, he was inhuman. The Jew is the perfect scape goat. He is a nomad, and anti-semitism and conspiracy theories are the perfect way to subdue the people into serving the nation.

Conspiracy Theories are a cultural phenomenon in which people choose to be cynical of the government. The concepts are utterly rediculous and go against that of human nature. There is no group of people who wants to go and dominate the earth. What would that do for them if they had absolute power? What could they do? It serves no purpose to have absolute power over the world. The idea of conspiracy theory, is that of one for the government to fill certain peoples mind with mush, so that the government will have another scape goat, other then the Jew and other minorities. This scape goat is called the "the nut job", the people trying to ruin the nation, thus strengthening a nations overall patriotism, and emboldening the conspiracy theorist. The ego does not want a New World Order, all the money in the world to be in the hands of a few families, it wants for it to be in the hands of all people. It wants to perpetuate the ego, and with one "World" Government, national egoes would be nonexistent, thus not allowing for the ego to be exerted. Racism and Conspiracy Theories allow for governments to perpetuate human slavery.
10:51 August 31, 2009 by mysticbumwipe
Here I think is the evidence of the apparent unbridgeable divide in this ongoing debate:

mehrdad1111's reasoning for why he thinks the jews ARE the victim here and not the actual person in the story who was killed.

Killing someone without proof is OK. But suggesting he might have had his organs removed without proof is not???

mehrdad1111 says that the poor 'Jews' AREalways guilty till they can prove their innocence whereas for everyone else its the other way around.

But that is clearly false. Stick to the facts. Stop repeating 'strawman' arguments.

The article doesn't say removal of organs in the case of Bilal was a proven fact(!???) Just that the relatives of MANY Palestinian youths killed suspected so. (Have you read the article yet, mehrdad?)

And the killing of Bilal: did he have a chance to proove his innocence before he was shot and wounded?

Or before he was kidnapped.

Or did his family have the right to question his innocence when the body was returned minus teeth and after the unpermitted autopsy/organ removal and his burial was forced in the middle of the night??

Don't you see the double standard and complete reversal of reality.

This artcile is NOT and has NOT been about 'JEWS' the world over.

That appears to be a 'jewish' self-deception.

Its about the IDF, Israeli impunity and implementation of international law and human rights.

If you keep this in that perspective then its clear that the real victim here was and still IS Bilal and his family
11:37 August 31, 2009 by benraph
I think this was a very fair articule, and i think its very sad that some comments are filled with hate and blatant racism.
15:36 August 31, 2009 by VikingWarriorPrincess
Thank you so much David.

calling for a bit (no actually a lot) of common sense,

most of the things written about this article in Aftonbladet seems to have been in the line of

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2668732.htm

just wipping up the hate

so once again

thanks.
17:05 August 31, 2009 by mehrdad1111
@mysticbumwipe:

one simple question:

the palis have all bodies, right?

why they do not open them and prove that something is missing? why? just answer me that.

they had np to create a pallywood show about muhammad al dura beeing killed by palis fire.
18:14 August 31, 2009 by govindh
Dear Jewhaters I can imagine you people sitting, frothing and panting as you are banging away at the computer keys and ranting against the evil Zionist enemy ::)).

All ye sound suspiciously like having seen an Al-qida recruit video-closet psychopaths.

Remove your skull caps, shave your beards, ban the veil in your family and be a person of the world. If you stay in Sweden, chill out, have a nice stiff drink (but don't get drunk !), go see a cartoon and do some greenpeace work. Hmm, most of the Jewhaters could possibly be a Jekyll and Hyde, nice at workplace and nasty at chatrooms.

Lighten up guys
21:31 August 31, 2009 by Tony Ryals
LenaNYC

Well la dee da,I'm an American too who was ripped off by Avigdor

Lieberman's pals Martin Schlaff and the sleezebag Grin brothers of

Israel who according to forbes.con are from the Ukraine.In fact

forbes.con didn't even mention Israel or the Union Bank - I had to

figure that out on my own.

As a New York American who supports the U.S.Constitution and free

speech then you must be pleased at least that I am also letting others

here know that Menachem Atzmon(convicted of money laundering between

the Israeli government and Likud Party in Israel while Ehud Olmert and

Netenyahu avoided their convictions)as well as various ex Israeli

military ran a stock fraud called called ICTS International that

guarded Logan Airport,Boston(unsuccessfully)on 9/11.Sweden nor this

website have anying to do with what I am saying any more than they

would think of censoring your freedom of speech.As an American you

should comend them.You left the land of the free and the home of the

brave to journey all they way to Sweden where they allow you to

exercise your First Amendment right from there(ALTHOUGH I HOPE THEY

AREN'T ALLOWING YOU TO BEAR ARMS,HEE,HEE).

I'm just glad Sweden feels so strongly about free speech because with

the Zionist Michael Chertoff's 'Patriot Act' we just about lost it at

home didn't we ?

Rather than your whining about my free speech I'd rather you correct

any errors of fact that I am making and if not don't go off like a

loose Israeli mortar or phosphorous bomb attack on me.Remember I'm not

a semite I mean Palestinian I am your fellow American.

Or you happy Menachem Atzmon and ICTS International ran a stock fraud

that got 3,000 of your fellow New York residents killed ? Or you happy

the real royal semites,the Al Sabah family of Kuwait,and Marvin Bush

ran the Securacom stock fraud(it went public at $8.50 per share in

1997),that got 3,000 killed in NY and was blamed by his brother W Bush

on Saddam Hussein leading to what some estimate as over a million

Iraqis killed and many American soldiers ,even women? I'm not ,but it

is your free speech to say it was better than watching a tennis match

if you want to.Go ahead and say it !

If you weren't ripped off by Lieberman's pals good for you.

And you know what ? AIPAC's(Israeli American slush fund to bribe U.S.

politicians)U.S.Representstive Jane Harman of California had her and

her husband Sydney's NYSE Harman International stock pumped up over

40% in one day recently by their pal the Sheik Al Sabah of Kuwait who

I was just discussing.But the Sheikh's loyal subject commited suicide

conveniently so he wouldn't have to explain it to the U.S.SEC who for

some reason were paying attention for a change.What do you think of

that ? Israel and Dubai wingnuts working together against Americans

and their own people's interests...
00:58 September 1, 2009 by maksim
I am sorry that I have commented, but not directly about the article. I believe this article was very well written, and very balanced. Whether It did not condone the actions of the IDF, it just said that the IDF is not as vile as they are made out to be. Essentially saying there is evidence there are war crimes, but that they did not take the organs of Palestinians. The other thing is, a few people, mainly mysticbumwipe, who say that Jews are over reacting, because this is the IDF. Can you tell me "mysticbumwipe", that I can feel safe walking through Rosengarden, or Malmo, wearing a skull cap, even though I might not support Israel? I will be attacked, because it will be assumed that I support Israel, because I am a Jew. I do not support racism of any kind, and it is very sad that in this day and age it exists. Jews are guilty of everything until proven innocent, this is a fact. This is also true for all minorities in European culture, and we, the Jews, are not saying our situation is unique. Muslims are guilty until proven innocent also. Muslims and Jews share the most in common whilst living in Europe, yet for some stupid reason, we cant just freaking get along. I want to be friends with a Palestinian while I study in Malmo, and I hope they know I support them AS A JEW, not as a person who is in denial of who they truly are. Sadly, I cant walk around Malmo wearing a skull cap, even though I am pro Palestinian, and pro-Jew, and pro- Sweden . I am pro- peace. It really saddens me though, the fact that anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, and Racism still exist today. Jews and Muslims were once friends, and now we are enemies. I want to be able to go to the West Bank, where my great paternal grandparents were from, and eat a delicious Palestinian falafel. Sadly this is not possible today.

The other thing about Sweden is that it has tremendous "Dubbel moralar" or double standards. They are neutral and promote peace, yet they are the second largest arms dealer in the global community. A lot of these nuances can be found in Swedish culture and politics, YET, it is still the greatest and most progressive country on the planet. Every country has its flaws, and the fact that an Israeli has a voice in a Swedish newspaper is fantastic. The fact that people and organizations are fighting Islamophobia and anti-Semitism at a large scale is fantastic.
07:18 September 1, 2009 by Uncle
David - thank you. Nobody could express this better.

Continue to write and strive to balance the media here. No one else is doing it!
23:56 September 1, 2009 by Tony Ryals
And some Zionists should have been held accountable for collusion with Nazis and what they did with secular Jews.

http://www.henrymakow.com/hitler_was_a_godsend_for_israe.html

Hitler was a Godsend for Israel

August 18, 2009

by Henry Makow Ph.D.

If Hitler didn't exist, Zionists would have had to create him. Maybe they did.

The numbers (from Edwin Black's The Transfer Agreement) tell the story. In 1927, about 15,000 of Germany's 550,000 Jews considered themselves Zionists. That's less than 2%.

The vast majority of German Jews "vehemently rejected Zionism as an enemy from within." They were Germans.... Thanks to Hitler, 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Israel between 1933 and 1941. Thanks to a "Transfer Agreement" between Nazis and Zionists, Jewish property valued at $100 million was transferred to Israel in the form of German industrial exports used to build Israel's infrastructure. The Transfer Agreement brought in tools, raw materials, heavy machinery, appliances, farm equipment as well as labor, and capital to finance expansion. Many of Israel's major industries, like textiles and the national waterworks, were thus founded...

Thanks to Hitler, the kernel of the German Jewish community was lifted up and transferred to Palestine along with their property. "Many of these people were allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories --indeed rough replicas of their very existences." .....In 1937, when the British proposed dividing Palestine into two states, the Nazis wondered if they hadn't made a mistake by creating "a Jewish Vatican" dedicated to Germany's demise. But Hitler overruled all dissenters and insisted the Transfer Agreement be continued and even expanded to other countries. Italy, Rumania, Hungary and several other countries under fascist influence signed similar agreements.....Hitler hated Jews so much he built a country for them. He could have taken all their property and kicked them out but that would have been anti-Semitic.

... The World Jewish Congress had to act pretty offended because they had a world boycott of Germany goods. But this only endeared the doughty Zionists to the Nazis. And gave the Nazis an excuse to boycott and persecute German Jews....As soon as the Nazis assumed power in 1933, the Zionists gained a visibly protected political status. After the Reichstag fire, the Nazis crushed virtually all political opposition and closed 600 newspapers. But not the Zionists nor their newspaper which was hawked from every street corner.....The Zionist uniform was the only non-Nazi uniform allowed in Germany. Same with their flag. Hebrew was mandated in Jewish schools....
01:29 September 2, 2009 by jon f
it is True My Mother was a victem some like this and I Fear doctors!! because of this she was a third generation red head swedish American that turn jewish and one of the doctors put her on a drug for high blood pressure it was like sterids she trusted him because he went to our church!! and other Germany doctor look a her proscription drugs and told me and her to stop taking this drugs well she did and had kindy failer the doctor I think was itanian not for sure but kindy machine at st. Merys then one of your hockey stars niclas linstrom help get her kindy well she lost her eyes then she was in unversity Michigan hospital for transplant and about three later she was there she lost both legs and someone said it some one gave oxgen this would not happen!!! test dummy it not funny seeing it and I believe it and its scarry them blank blank this way for ST Merys make money off people that not there fath this why I don't go to church.
19:26 September 2, 2009 by bill.lunn
Are any of the Israel/Jew/America haters here christians ? If so, may I suggest studying the history of Christianity back to its origins, spread, institutionalisation into the Church of Rome, etc. ? The are great moral, spiritual and educational lessons to be learned by understanding the origins of one's own church and faith......
21:31 September 2, 2009 by Tony Ryals
Oh yeah let's all take 'history' lessons from a white guy who thinks he's a 'semite'.Now that would be pretty funny wouldn't it ? And one who has a Russian mafiosi,Avigdor Liarman,I mean Lieberrman,as his Israeli Finance Minister and money launderer and who has stolen the drinking water from underneath the feet of Palestinians.Oh yes kind sir give us 'history' lessons.Ha,ha.

We all worship Nordic Gods here,didn't you know ? Actually the Maya have some pretty neat gods and godesses too and they render them in their art much better than Judeo-Christian-Moslems do.And they don't get uptight if you render them in your own artistic style......

One can logically be anti-jewish religion,anti-islamic religion and anti-christian religion(after all to an atheist

or agnostic it is hard to tell the difference between the three) - without being 'anti-semitic'.Those Zionists who keep posting their tripe about being ant-semitic should be corrected for misusing the english or swedish or any other language their spew their propaganda from.It was that lie or myth that caused so many problems for so many centuries anyway.

In fact German Jews have a lot of physical and genetic characteristics common to Germans.And Hungarian Jews have a lot of physycal and genetic characteristics common to Hungarians, etc..Why ? Well because since their migration, probably from Khazaria on northern Caspian shore they have been a minority in a predomoninately Christian Europe.And when one mentioned rape of Jews here I would say he was correct.And this,more than marriage between Christians and Jews,which would have been discouraged by Catholic Church and rabbis ,about sums it up.Also this would explain why a patriarchical religion,judaism,would have a matrilineal inheritance of judaism.Beause often the father in Eastern Europe was a rapist of the Christian majority.And this is why the 'pure semitic race' of jews is as phoney as the Hitlerian 'pure German race'.Both Hitler and the rabbis are wrong.

Further their was a time when Swedes and Scandinavians had their own polytheistic religion (before Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi's heroes the Popes and Musolini were ever known to them.)But the Catholic Church brought and imposed Christianity upon Scandinavians by force.So these zionists should shove it where the sun don't shine just like the Nazi Pope and the Musolini loving Italian PM Berlusconi.

Do the Zionists here now wish to claim that Scandinavians Nordic gods and their worshipers had anything to do with accusing them of killing 'Jesus' ? Ha.Ha.

But the Zionists who whine here should also realize what it was like historically for them to not just to bring another religion into Christian majority countries - but they chose to bring one that specifically made the claim that its followers had an involvement in killing the god or the god's representative('Jesus') that the majority religion believed in.
02:59 September 3, 2009 by Jonas Persson
Seems like the Israeli government doesn't fully understand what "free press" means. The Swedish government is not in the business of commenting on individual articles in individual newspapers. The moment a government starts to have official opinions on what the media reports, then the media isn't really free, is it? As long as nothing illegal is written, Swedish press can write whatever they like. This is a very strange request from the Israeli government, and goes against the the principles of free speech as specified by the Swedish constitution. It also makes one wonder how free israeli press really is...

Let's imagine the situation had been the reverse. It would be unthinkable for the Swedish government to issue a protest against the israeli government for something a privately owned newspaper had written. Tabloid newspaper make up stories on a regular basis, be it in the U.K., in the U.S. ("Green Baby Born"), or Sweden. Who are we kidding here? This is not about the content of some newspaper article, it's truth or verifiability. This is about what The Economist rank as a flawed democracy's lack of understanding of what free press means (Economist Intelligence Unit Index of Democracy, on Israel).

Israel has a lot to learn, just like its muslim anatagonists who not long ago attacked Scandinavian embassies, issued death threats, demanded apologies, and boycotted Scandinavian goods because of what an artist respectively a private newspaper chose to draw for fun or art and publish. I can tell you all that in Sweden everyone is free to make fun of any person or religion, and yes, that includes the king, the prime minister, Jesus, Muhammed, or any other real or perceived figure. I can also tell you that one of the few restrictions in the freedom of speech is the law against hate-speech towards ethnic groups, for example jews.

I bet few of you have even taken the time to read the article in question. It speculates, and I don't think the word "jew" is even mentioned. Please don't tell me that you actually believe everything that you read in a sleezy tabloid. It is not a research journal we are talking about here. I also wasn't many months ago that some fantasy-full article about Sweden appeared in an israeli newspaper. Like probably most Swedes did, I just shook my head. Grow up, learn what real democracy means, and get a life!

P.S. Before you use the nowadays increasingly diluted and meaningless accusation of "anti-semitism" that Israel randomly uses to lash out against anyone criticizing its policies, maybe you should be aware that the Swede Raoul Wallenberg is credited with having saved the lifes of about 100,000 jews from the Holocaust. He is an israeli honorary citizen. Many other Swedes as well as the Swedish government saved thousands of other jews by helping them flee to neutral Sweden. (Ask them how "anti-semitic" Sweden is!) There are 18,000 jews in Sweden, many extremely successful and well-respected. D.S.
15:37 September 3, 2009 by Farbror Sven
Who is David Stavrou?
03:09 September 8, 2009 by Tony Ryals
'Who is David Stavrou?' Just another white guy who thinks he's a 'semite'.
05:52 September 30, 2009 by HonestAbe
"the US rabbis who traded in organs weren't caught and articles published about it"

There were NO rabbis trading in organs. The US arrested about 44 people of all ethnicities for corruption, including several ultra-orthodox Jews. One of those ultra-orthodox - NOT a rabbi - had been doing organ-matching for profit, as is legal in (among other places) India and China.

David is wrong - his criticism of the Israeli reaction is blaming the victim. Israel does have a right to represent both its citizens and Jews as a group, and its reaction was appropriate and if anything tooo well-tempered. Israel should have either broken relations with Sweden, or sued the Aftonbladet for libel, or both.

La Figaro's anti-semitism confirms that false publicity such as the Aftonbladet and other tabloids is libel.

Jonas, you sound like the German industrialists who excused their providing the machinery of mass murder by also making diapers. Accepting Jewish refugees (10,000 not 18,000) does NOT give Sweden the right to perpetuate blood libels. My helping an old lady across the street does NOT give me the right to murder or steal. Apparently, Swedes not only cannot recognise anti-Semitism, they also need lessons in basic morality.

The comments above have confirmed my impression of Sweden as an anti-Semitic cesspool.
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The United States Embassy in Stockholm is set to get its first female ambassador after the White House announced it was nominating the Iranian-American ex-investment banker Azita Raji to take over from Mark Brzezinski. READ  

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