'Taxpayers should not have to fund feminist porn'
The Local · 3 Sep 2009, 19:41
Published: 03 Sep 2009 19:41 GMT+02:00
- Feminist porn 'challenges traditional gender roles' (01 Sep 09)
- Publicly funded ‘feminist porn’ to premiere (01 Sep 09)
Thursday September 3rd sees the premiere of Mia Engberg's ‘Dirty diaries’, a feminist porn movie funded by the Swedish Film Institute. Engberg received 500,000 kronor ($69,000) from the Institute to make the movie.
Engberg has also tried to make feminist porn before, which has resulted in a lesbian porn film and a film of women's' facial expressions at the point of orgasm. Her vision is to get make the porn industry more appealing to women, all in the name of feminism. She also claims that women's sexuality is more multi-faceted than men's.
But to argue that girls having sex with girls and women masturbating is somehow a good alternative to mainstream porn feels like a completely alien concept to me, and to many other women. Furthermore, most people would agree that the state should not fund pornography. And when it does, should it really only benefit women, all in the name of equality? If a man had sought and received similar funding for ‘regular’ porn, it wouldn’t have taken long before there was an outcry from supporters of equality between the sexes.
Although the market catering for women's sexuality is increasing, it is still limited. There can be no doubt that the porn industry is dominated by men. It is therefore not the idea of developing the industry in favour of women that is upsetting – this is something that many women would welcome - it is the fact that it is happening with our tax money under the cloak of feminism. By labeling lesbian sex as feminist, it also contributes to the prejudiced notion that the equality debate is all about excluding men and privileging women.
In my opinion, one of the main reasons the porn industry is male-dominated and not particularly attractive to women is that ‘regular’ porn movies often feature a great deal of sex between women. Being heterosexual, it is not very exciting to watch. Oddly, it seems to have the opposite effect on men. Lesbian porn is far from the solution to creating a porn market that appeals to more women. While it might very well broaden the market for people with different sexual orientations, it should not trade under the banner of feminism.
Engberg's aim -- to make mainstream porn less mainstream, and complex rather than flat -- is definitely not something that the state should be paying for, regardless of whether it is lesbian or feminist porn. If the state was to sponsor alternative genres in every field just to create more options, the costs would soon be astronomical. Just because some of us don’t enjoy mainstream music like Britney Spears, which we maybe find flat and lacking in nuance, it doesn’t mean we should expect the state to fund underground metal music. In the same way, the fact that Mia Engberg doesn't like mainstream porn does not mean the state should sponsor feminist or lesbian porn.
It’s not so long since Sweden’s Feminist Initiative received 400,000 kronor from the state to fund its educational programme. Soon afterwards, Engberg was given 500,000 for feminist porn. You don’t have to be a genius to work out that feminism has earned a special status and has somehow been deemed deserving of people's tax money in order to fund everything from seminars to pornography.
It’s saddening to see that respect for taxpayers’ money is almost non-existent. While everyone is of course in favour of equality, there is no consensus that it can be achieved through feminism, or feminist pornography for that matter. The fact that there is a woman wanting to make alternative porn for women, maybe even only involving women, does not make it any more deserving from a gender equity standpoint. Men do not get the same kind of sponsorship, and ‘male’ pornography is denied the status of art seemingly merited by ‘female’ porn. Surely the question of whether you prefer the naked body of a man or a woman is very much a subjective matter.
Women will eventually have their needs represented on the market as demand increases. If we women want more alternatives, as increasingly seems to be the case, we will make our own demands on the market and output will increase. If we don't want to watch girls having sex with other girls, we should not pay for it, either voluntarily or through taxes. The state does not need to redistribute our money to places where it believes it is wanted.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Art is subjective. For the state to decide that feminist porn is art but ‘regular’ porn is reprehensible is little more than paternalistic moralising and sends out all the wrong signals in the equality debate. Equality is an important issue, but it should never function as a cloak for state funding of ideologies that are somehow deemed correct in the eyes of the authorities.
In a democracy people should be able to decide for themselves the ideas and values they would like to sponsor, and what is and what is not art. People’s morals are a private matter and it should be up to each individual whether they want to pay for feminist porn - or something else entirely.
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The state gave our money to produce Porn. Maybe art porn. But porn it is.
"corn porn" - porn with schmaltzy love stories
"worn porn" - for the older generation
"sworn porn" - with expesically dirty language
"mourn porn" - porn to watch afetr your lover has died
"dorm porn" - kinda self explainatory!
"norm porn" - bog standard, "missionary position with the lights out" porn
"björn porn" - a rebradnding of the classic Swedish blue movies
"drawn porn" - hentai or other animated porn.
"lawn porn" - a bit of crumpet for the upper crust English gentleman
"horn porn" - featuring especially well endowed male actors
... the list continues
Just be happy its 'just' half a million, and not 10 million to be given over a span of 5 years or something. Oops, hope i didnt give the dingbats an idea....
Why shouldn't the Feminist Initiative get 400,000 towards their educational programmes? If they radically alter society then that can only be a good thing because we live in a pretty sick misogynistic society at the moment. I wonder how much money gets ploughed into anti-feminist, pro-patriarchal propaganda, into the commercial porn / beauty / cosmetic surgery industries, or into the pockets of right-wing politicians and reactionary religious nutters.
The marxist stench oozing out of your blurb is revolting. May the Sahliness and her minions be demoted to a footnote in history in 2010.
But that special status is by no means a priviledged one. It means instead being derided at every turn for arguing for some very obvious and essentially uncontroversial things such as legal, political and physical equality.
The liberation from the restrictions of conservative gender sterotypes that feminist theory offers are at least as attractive for men as they are for women.
There are also as many feminisms as there are political ideologies - these issues are not owned by the left even if the struggle to fuse liberalism with feminism is not an easy one in practice.
In theory what could be more liberal that everyone should be judged on their merits as individuals regardless of creed, colour, gender, sex or age or any other crude category for that matter?
Where Liberalism often fails in its failure to recognize a structure - a patriachy is a structure, one that is not the exclusive domain of men.
It is also a structure which oppresses males as well as females, hetero, homo or anywhere in between. To illustrate look at the male roles in commercial porn or how men are habitually described in rape cases - animals that exercise no control over their impulses and whose actions are steered by hormones alone.
500,000 poxy kronor to have a go at creating alternative porn - all films are designed to stimulate the senses is this really so dramatically different.
I agree that it is probably wasted money - what can one short film do to change a massive sordid industry? At least the director (once an anti-porn feminist) could be given credit for trying.
I like porn -but it could be so much better.
To put the figures in perspective:
the Stockholm Opera receives over 300 million kronor per year for a handful of performances that a handful of people can afford to see.
Stefan Valdemar Holm (former Dramaten boss) has received funding of over 150 million kronor in his career and has not yet managed to direct a single play written by a woman.
Jan Guillou's Arn films cost 210 million kronor to make.
Oh and Beatrice - "Anti-Feminist Initiative - is it the feminist or the initiative you are against? - how about being for something for a change.
i am female but i think that feminism tends to be too leftist too much of the time to be genuinely caring ONLY about equality between genders. the way it looks to me is that feminism it mostly cares about communistic ideas enforced by lesbians.
on the other hand i also agree with some of you who said that it doesn't actually matter that it's "feminist" porn, since nobody is stopping men from watching it and they will sure have a good time doing it.
but still. if porn is going to be state-sponsored it is wrong to just sponsor one type of it. as the article has pointed out, it is very subjective as to what type of porn any one person, may they be male or female, prefers. so just sponsoring lesbian porn only but not any other forms is pointless. i wonder what would happen if a group of women stood up and said that they actually prefer watching heterosexual porn. would that also get sponsored?
Erika Lust (www.erikalust.com)
Good point indeed.
Feminist politicians say that they want to make a differnece in an unequal world but really as we can see they are as corrupt by greed and power as any other politicians. Well maybe that's what tehy really have to say about equality. Great work!
And if somebody in swedish gov really wants to help the porn industry, well just stay the f%^lk away from your taxpayers money and gave them hand!
(And by hand I mean a hand.)
"power corrupts and absolute power corupts absollutely"
Study after study after study reveal women's #1 fantasy is Girl On Girl.
Cum on ladies admit it, just as in dressing up us Men cum SECOND in your sexual Fantasies.