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Afghan teens dumped in Swedish forest

Afghan teens dumped in Swedish forest

Published: 28 Dec 2009 08:02 GMT+01:00
Updated: 28 Dec 2009 08:02 GMT+01:00

A member of the church had found the five boys, aged 14 to 18, in the southern town of Sävsjö on Thursday, Christmas Eve, local pastor Jonas Nyström told AFP.

Nyström said the police had asked the local Högland parish to look after the teenagers until the social services opened on Monday following a Christmas break.

"They were cold, they were tired and they were starving," Nyström said.

The group had been "abandoned in the forest by a smuggler who did not want to be seen with them, and they were able to get to Sävsjö by following a railway line," he said.

A Swedish radio report said they had travelled across Europe hidden in a container.

Nyström said the Afghans did not speak English and he had communicated with them using translation software and through other Afghans in Sweden.

"Some of their parents had been killed by the Taliban," he said.

Many Afghans use illegal people smugglers to flee their dangerous and destitute country, with Europe the main destination.

AFP/The Local (news@thelocal.se)

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11:41 December 28, 2009 by SaltWater
Smuggling from Afghanistan to Sweden, let me guess, there's plenty of countries where they can work in between, so they probably are searching for something else!
12:21 December 28, 2009 by Tennin
These guys don't look 14-18 years old, they probably mistranslated 24-28.
13:14 December 28, 2009 by Beynch
The fact that they were "smuggled" in should not alter their status vis-a-vis Swedish immigration laws. "Some of their parents had been killed by the Taliban"? I wonder how many times this sentence has been used for spurious asylum claims, in order to tug at the hearts strings of a bleeding heart liberal? This story is far from complete. Let us know all the facts. Chances are that all five should probably be expelled, and asked to apply for residence in a legal way, along with all those who dutifully follow the Law. By the way, isn't this also a textbook example of why immigration/passport controls should be re-introduced on the Öresund Bridge? What better proof do you need? One can only hope that The Local follows this story, and that it does not get buried. It will be intersting to see how quick and (in)efficient Swedish immigration bureaucracy really is.
13:28 December 28, 2009 by Marc the Texan
Millions of people live in Afghanistan every day.
13:31 December 28, 2009 by Osokin
With a little effort they can make a boy band.
16:07 December 28, 2009 by human on planet
again the same story. parents killed by taliban. after some years same guys may be found in taliban or al-quida. they dont look like teen agers. there are many countries between afghanistan and sweden. sweden is a banana country thats why they are coming to sweden.
16:16 December 28, 2009 by insect
They look more Asian than Arab to me
16:24 December 28, 2009 by Hagen
I agree, I bet they are Turkmenians.

In any event, they are no asset to Sweden and maybe somebody can tell us how do the other Millions of Afghanis manage who stay in their own country ??
17:14 December 28, 2009 by moh
whatever people call these issues the bottom line is that everyone wants a better life in this world,some want the minimum basic needs while others want to provide for their families,some will do it the legally others illegaly.

its thesame everywhere wether its a swede or any other person...so i prefer not to judge them.
17:20 December 28, 2009 by Mox Mox The Manburner
"With a little effort they can make a boy band."

Osokin: Thanks for making me laugh for the first time today.
17:23 December 28, 2009 by waspy
That second guy from the left, with the vertical gray and black stripes, looks like he's around 30 years old.
17:26 December 28, 2009 by Beynch
@Hagen: You may be right. They are Uzbek, Turkmen or Tajik, and "economic" refugees, dreaming of a taxpayer supported life in the West. This "taliban" nonsense is a ruse!
18:16 December 28, 2009 by peropaco
@insect, FYOI, Afghanistan is a South Central Asian country ;-)

They will be giving refugee status, a place to live and approximately 1200 Euros a month in cash money. A few months down the road an overweight 40 year old hairy Swedish broad working at the absorption centre will fall in love with one of the guys, leave her boring ass husband and retarded looking kids; marry him and open a pizzeria in Dalarna.
18:45 December 28, 2009 by soultraveler3
/agrees with waspy

No way the second guy in is a teenager. The others might be older teenagers though.

@insect Afghanistan has many different ethnic groups so to say they don't look "afghani" doesn't really make sense. The largest asien-looking ethnic group in Afghanistan are the Hazaras. Google it. :)
18:48 December 28, 2009 by Mox Mox The Manburner
Peropecker said: "A few months down the road an overweight 40 year old hairy Swedish broad working at the absorption centre will fall in love with one of the guys, leave her boring ass husband and retarded looking kids; marry him and open a pizzeria in Dalarna."

You´re a friggin idiot.
19:45 December 28, 2009 by peropaco
@Mox,

LOL.. You hate to hear the truth mon pote... ;-)
20:36 December 28, 2009 by ladyluck37
I suggest people watch the movie "In this World" (2002), which tells the story of two Afghan refugees who attempt to reach England through smugglers. It's a very moving account, and you come away seeing how treacherous the journey is--which sadly claims many lives. But you also begin to understand that the people who come over have paid smugglers a LOT of money. These are not "youths" who have been kidnapped and are now turning up in the woods against their will. The point is that they pay people to drop them in countries where they know they won't likely get sent back right away. Smuggling is BIG business and as long as countries keep allowing refugees to stay, there is no incentive for this illegal activity to stop.
21:21 December 28, 2009 by ou2chi
@Mox Mox The Manburner

Looks like naughty peropaco hit close to home. How dare he tell the truth! Sorry mate. truth hates, but hey don't take it personal. I am sure he does not know you, which means the incisive truth was not directed at you!
23:24 December 28, 2009 by lingonberrie
The only things that are "incisive" here are the hate writing, poor grammar, vulgarity and the pretensions of those who would be called human.

Wait until the truth is known before jumping to hare-brained conclusions and condemnations.

Lynch-mobs are the provenance of The Deep South Dixie America.
00:43 December 29, 2009 by Nilspet
Really...they can make a boy band :) They have the look.. but do they have the voice? I think they are at least 18 ....no way 14.
01:09 December 29, 2009 by FireBoy
@insect, afghans are not arabs!!! Oh gosh! And yes Turkmenistan is their neighboring country so lots of similarities.
01:21 December 29, 2009 by Davey-jo
Wasn't there a Wallander story about some refugees in a container; left in a forest in Southern Sweden. Only they were all dead. Fact following fiction?
01:56 December 29, 2009 by peropaco
And we can see lingonberrie is also anal retentive with her grammar observation.
03:07 December 29, 2009 by Canada_Girl
This same nonsense happens in Canada too. The best has to be coming to a country for a "visit" and then completely disappearing. Nice work.

I agree that 1, 2, and 5 look like they're in their 20s. I guess saying you're really young will help the cause..?
03:33 December 29, 2009 by Davey-jo
@ peropaco

It is well known that a non-retentive anus spouts forth nothing of substance.
03:34 December 29, 2009 by Greg in Canada
"This same nonsense happens in Canada too."

You've noticed this to eh?

The posted earlier comment about the "boy band" had me rolling on the floor however.:-)
06:56 December 29, 2009 by Mox Mox The Manburner
Yes, after reading a number of comments on various subjects on the front page here, I've found out the truth alright: I've realized that this is where the true riff raff of the local.se reside. For whatever reason, these posters appear to very seldom post in the discuss forum.

All of the intolerance and xenophobia expressed here is quite perplexing. Once, it used to be balanced out by more level headed posters, but they seem to have abandoned this web site in increasing numbers. For good reasons it seems, and all we have left is the peropcos and Davey Joes of the cyber world. The Jack Spratts and Holeycutters at least have a sense of humour when they bash Sweden, not so with these bozos.

I wonder specifically about this poster peropoco and his capacity for hatred. It ought to be clear to everyone who´s read more than a few of his posts that his hatred for Sweden appears to stem from something that is more of a mental disorder. Anybody with a need to express hatred to such a degree must suffer from low self esteem and a general dislike for himself. You don't really need a PhD in psychology to realize that.

Let me venture a guess: he probably spent a year or two in Sweden, failed to get a job, failed to get a Swedish girl friend, which of course causes him to lash out against his main competition, that is, Swedish men, and Sweden and everything Swedish in general. So he returns to the home country with a new found hatred, a scapegoat on which he can blame all of his own failings and insecurities in life on. Then all he needs is a computer and access to the Internet.

But really, as I wrote, to be like him and to express the things that he does, can only have it's roots in a deep dislike of oneself and disappointment in how one's own life has turned out.

One thing I've also found out though, during my many years of Internet usage is that posters like him all eventually get banned from their respective web sites, it never fails, because the moderators eventually have had it with them.

We used to have a real lunatic positing here on the local a while back, who wrote in a similar fashion, B.N.W. With him it was one endless tirade of hate mongering. But at least, as Mzungu once pointed out, he was much more imaginative and entertaining than this guy, head case that he was. We haven´t heard from him since he was last banned from the site.

Again, and more generally, the hate mongering and general xenophobia and intolerance of a whole slew of the posters here - all of them young, frustrated males, of course (you don't need to be Sigmund Freud to detect that) - is quite surprising.
12:02 December 29, 2009 by Deema
Mox Mox The Manburner, I agree with you 100%. Thank you for giving us a great closure :)

*applause*
12:10 December 29, 2009 by Examiner
@ Mox Mox The Manburner

Interesting claims that you make

(1) "…failed to get a Swedish girl friend"? Really? Is there such a person out there? Is it really possible to fail to get a Swedish girlfriend? Never heard of it. If you get out into the world, you will find that the reputation of Swedish girls as easy is huge. That explains why Russian blonds alweays make it clear they are not Swedish before men have ideas.

(2) "…his main competition, that is, Swedish men". Ha ha ha! Fancy having a Swedish man as competition to get a Swedish girl! You mean the competition that is so strong that it scampers all the way to Thailand to find "love"?
12:31 December 29, 2009 by Mox Mox The Manburner
"If you get out into the world, you will find that the reputation of Swedish girls as easy is huge."

This is exactly the type of ranting that I was talking about in my earlier post.

Thanks.
12:35 December 29, 2009 by Examiner
@Mox Mox The Manburner

Truth really hurts. Sorry for the low blow!
12:43 December 29, 2009 by Mox Mox The Manburner
Apparently, that "truth really hurts" line is one of the few phrases that these types have in their vocabulary, since it gets used to over and over and over again. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
14:05 December 29, 2009 by peropaco
Mox the roach.

LOL,. you are cracking me up girlfriend.. ! Failed to get a Swedish girlfriend? LOL.. Swedish men competition..LOL are you for real? Swedish men are like horses.. they only speak when they are drunk.. Swedish girls are too easy to bang which make it a no brainer...Like shooting fish in a barrel. You may be right in one thing with regards to Swedish men, they are the masters of sodomizing young Thai boys...
14:44 December 29, 2009 by insect
Yikes people!

Im sorry, don't chop off my head. Now I know. Thank you.
17:04 December 29, 2009 by Mox Mox The Manburner
Peropoco "Swedish men are like horses.. they only speak when they are drunk.. Swedish girls are too easy to bang which make it a no brainer..."

Responses such as this one here speak for themselves and really only corroborate what I wrote in my earlier post. i.e, first they attack Swedish men because they´re the main competition for the attention that they seek from Swedish women. Then when that doesn´t suffice, they attack Swedish women, because as everybody knows you hate what you want but can never get.

And of course the main argument to debunk my claim is apparently the word: "LOL", which gets repeated over and over.
20:17 December 29, 2009 by Examiner
@Mox Mox The Manburner

"You hate what you want but can never get". Swedish girls? Which planet are you on, mate? Look here, you do not need a Swedish girlfriend to find out for yourself. Ask around, or better still observe. Swedish man real competition? In getting women? I would have laughing if this wasn't a pathetic of righteous indignation.

You keep on whining about "what I wrote in my earlier post". A pathetic attempt at self referencing. What are you really saying in this arid and tedious monologue that you are trying so valiantly to elevate into a masterpiece?
00:04 December 30, 2009 by Mox Mox The Manburner
"What are you really saying in this arid and tedious monologue that you are trying so valiantly to elevate into a masterpiece"

Obviously you have difficulties with reading comprehension. But anyway, since I have to repeat my arguments, here we go:

Sample a:

"All of the intolerance and xenophobia expressed here is quite perplexing. Once, it used to be balanced out by more level headed posters, but they seem to have abandoned this web site in increasing numbers."

What is difficult for you to understand here?

If I have to translate it for you into something that you will actually understand, then what I'm trying to say is that many of the posters here on the local are hate mongering idiots who have nothing more to do with there lives than to sit by the computer and try to slander the entire population base in an entire country .

Sample b.

"But really, as I wrote, to be like him and to express the things that he does, can only have it's roots in a deep dislike of oneself and disappointment in how one's own life has turned out."

Again, what's difficult for you to understand here? well then here we go: there's no question in my mind that many of the posters on here, who get a kick out of bad mouthing the people of an entire nation on very dubious grounds really suffer from a deeply seated inferiority complex and my guess is also that the ones who most complain and make generalisations about Swedish women for instance have never even known one.

Your sentence: "you do not need a Swedish girlfriend to find out for yourself," was quite revealing. And to say that all Swedish women are "easy" as you keep repeating is nothing but pure slander, in the same manner that it is slanderous that Sweden is the country with the most suicides in the world, something that is not in anyway based in actual facts, yet is being claimed to death but the usual assortment of Sweden bashers on here. The Swedish women I know are not in the least bit promiscuous or "easy," but I guess you know better, huh?

sample c.

"Again, and more generally, the hate mongering and general xenophobia and intolerance of a whole slew of the posters here - all of them young, frustrated males, of course."

My point here is that the posters who spread this kind of stuff really are rather interchangeable, all young males with chips on their shoulders with a incessant need to indulge in intolerance, slander and xenophobia. This is really not just something that pertains comments about Sweden, but their posting in general, as concerns refugees for example.

Did you understand this time what I was trying to say or do I have to draw pictures for you?
07:41 December 30, 2009 by dsc
Immigrants at each others throats.

Where is Viking Warrior ? I need him to point some more benefits of diversity.
10:53 December 30, 2009 by Mox Mox The Manburner
"Look here, you do not need a Swedish girlfriend to find out for yourself. Ask around, or better still observe."

This is exactly the type of blasphemous crap that time and again gets posted on this web site by people who have all of the answers about the Swedes and what they are like. And the moderators let them get away with it.

I'm not sure where this fellow comes from, but judging from how he writes and the words he uses I would guess England - which would explain a few things -. I seriously doubt that he's ever spent much time in Sweden, however.

He's probably seen the behaviour of a few Swedish women and then he bases his opinion of an entire female population in an entire country on his own prejudiced view.
12:12 December 30, 2009 by glamshek
With Pictures? Isn't it banned?
12:39 December 30, 2009 by Hagen
@Mox ""Peropecker said: "A few months down the road an overweight 40 year old hairy Swedish broad working at the absorption centre will fall in love with one of the guys, leave her boring ass husband and retarded looking kids; marry him and open a pizzeria in Dalarna."

You´re a friggin idiot. ""

I must disagree, as well as the comment about starting a Boy Band, this made me laugh and there is a grain of truth in the comment as well.

What you have to be looking at is why did they get to Sweden ??

If they get cash money every month then they will be forced to send a large percentage of this money back to the people who organized their trip to Sweden.

If they get to be made Swedish then of course they will have the right to marry somebody from their village and bring her to Sweden, and her Mother and Father, and their Brothers and Sisters and before you know it there is a whole clan of people all getting cash money every month and all sending a percentage back to the organizers.

A British Newspaper did some research on a so-called Asylum Seeker who got the right to stay in Britain, he got a British Passport as well, so this guy brought his Family over, all 38 of them ! none spoke English, none of them could get a job and the State ended up paying for them and many more like them which is why the Social Security costs in Britain are approaching 200 Billion Pounds every year.

This is more than Defence and the NHS costs combined !!

If you really want a massive Burden for you and your children to bear, then OK, let these guys stay, let their buddies come over and the buddies of their buddies, entire villages in fact ! but be prepared to pay massive Taxes all your working lives and your Children to pay massive Taxes all their working lives !!
13:15 December 30, 2009 by Examiner
@Mox Mox The Manburner

Wow! I have discovered my very own pet dingbat: Spews up incomprehensible verbiage, grunts in self admiration, demands that the world admire the verbal sewage, and having failed to get admirers, frustratingly re-ingests the vomit, chews it, spews it up again in a altered, more bizarre concoction, and forces people to try and understand the imbecilic ritual. Really, I would have laughed if this performance wasn't so pathetic.
13:40 December 30, 2009 by Rick Methven
@Examiner

"Spews up incomprehensible verbiage, grunts in self admiration, demands that the world admire the verbal sewage, and having failed to get admirers, frustratingly re-ingests the vomit, chews it, spews it up again in a altered, more bizarre concoction, and forces people to try and understand the imbecilic ritual."

There you go writing about yourself again!

I suspect that idiots like you who just suddenly appear on The Local arrived here by doing a search for "Swedish Blonds" and are really looking for sex sites.

Sorry to let you down, but you came to the wrong place so why not go away and play with yourself!
15:49 December 30, 2009 by Mox Mox The Manburner
Rick, thanks for the support. It seems like troll hunting season on the local arrived late this year. Happy New Year.
16:40 December 30, 2009 by Rick Methven
@Mox Mox The Manburner

Yes we can shoot a few more trolls before the year is out!

have a good one

Rick
19:18 December 30, 2009 by Examiner
@ Rick Methven

Another dingbat in the house! Another pathetic performance. The cycle restarts. Again.
21:36 December 30, 2009 by Hagen
@Canada girl.:-This same nonsense happens in Canada too. The best has to be coming to a country for a "visit" and then completely disappearing. Nice work.

I agree that 1, 2, and 5 look like they're in their 20s. I guess saying you're really young will help the cause..? ""

Once you let one stay, just one is all it takes !! then the people smugglers know they can do business and there will be many more @ $5,000 a go.

I pity the immigrants but I blame the Politicians who haven't the guts to come out and explain just what their policy is regarding Illegals and Immigrants.
08:20 December 31, 2009 by Rick Methven
@Examiner

We don't like trolls like you who appear and spout a whole pile of crap about things that they know nothing about.

In your case it is obvious that you know nothing about nothing
20:11 December 31, 2009 by Brucelee@stockholm.sweden
OK, good, every smuggler in this world could dump a bunch of idiots and run away.

How wonderful Sweden is!!!
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