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Prisoners threaten strike over incontinent inmate

Prisoners threaten strike over incontinent inmate

Published: 04 Aug 2010 11:21 GMT+02:00
Updated: 04 Aug 2010 11:21 GMT+02:00

The prisoners argue that such a frail man does not belong in a prison and requires specialist care, according to a report by news programme TV4 Nyheterna Umeå.

"He does not feel good and we think that it is awful to see an old man treated in this way after all he has done for society," said an inmate to the news channel.

Fellow prisoners are now threatening to take strike action if the situation is not resolved.

"If needs be we will refuse to be locked in our cells in order for him to get better help," the inmate said.

The 78-year-old man arrived at the Sörby facility using a walking frame, wearing a nappy (diaper) and equipped with a catheter.

According to TV4 the sentencing court has responded that a prisoner is imprisoned for a reason, reported to be the assault of a police officer while in a confused state at his prior residence - a nursing home.

Had the man been 80-years-old or more he would have been able to petition for mercy, TV reported.

The Local (news@thelocal.se)

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12:20 August 4, 2010 by hjoian
Typical ! Sounds like the prisoners at Tidaholm causing a riot because they wanted a 4 week holiday a year too!! In this case i dont think this man should be in prison, how bad can an assault be by a confused pensioner? My question would be why this old man had reason to assault this police officer in the fisrt place??

Anyway, another great story of how things work in Sweden.....a real eye opener. Cheers
12:40 August 4, 2010 by Zoolander428
"If needs be we will refuse to be locked up..."

I didn't realize they were in prison voluntarily.
12:45 August 4, 2010 by Nemesis
For once I support the prisoners.

The guy was in a confused state when he assaulted the officer. That needs to be looked at again.

Sounds like the prisoners have more sense than the judges, police and prosecutors.

That tells me a lot about the criminal system in Sweden.
14:03 August 4, 2010 by bob3000
@hjolan @Nemisis

Does it matter how old the attackers is? Does their mental state matter?

If a 78 year old is convicted for assault, it surely must have been severe enough. If you live here, you would know their is quite a strong social services net.

Given the scoffing comments about weak sentencing on thelocal - it really is clear that complaining and trolling is the aim.

Quote, "it is awful to see an old man treated in this way after all he has done for society" - said the convicts, about the convict.

Obviously once you reach a certain age, you automatically become a benevolent pensioner and any crimes (past or future should be forgotten).

Give me a break.

There is obviously more to this story than is being reported here. Perhaps the story here will be supplemented with......(drum roll) facts, perhaps not - I'll not be holding my breath.
14:27 August 4, 2010 by Puffin
@bob3000

Of course the person's mental state matters - if the person has a serious mental disorder then they would be sentenced under the rules to Rättspyskiatrisk vård to closed psychiatric treatment.

Obviously in your country people are fine about the elderly suffering with dementia being locked up in prison
15:13 August 4, 2010 by bob3000
@Puffin

Dementia - I never saw that in this article - do share.

So you are agreeing with me? If he was sentenced to prison, Rättspyskiatrisk did not apply. Therefore this story reported by thelocal is perhaps a little sensational?
15:43 August 4, 2010 by shame, shame
@bob3000

the facts of the news is clearly that the inmates have threatened to strike over this. All the rest is just discussion of the reasons why, not whether their cause is justified or not.
16:22 August 4, 2010 by mukiwa
An 78 yo man with a walker, diapers and a catheter.....Just how bad was the beat down did he inflicted on this police officer??? Does this officer break into tears if he's called a bad name ???

Give the old guy a break.....He's in a place that he doesn't want to be in .....I don't mean prison, I mean in his own failing body. Let us not forget inside every old person is a young person screaming "What happened"
16:37 August 4, 2010 by GLO
WOW !!!! This is just NUTS !!!!
17:12 August 4, 2010 by Puffin
@bob3000

I heard the item on the Swedish news where the man was described as very confused, has emphysema, unable to walk without a zimmer frame and incontinent - obviously much too difficult for the Swedish Police to handle .......

The reason that I surmised dementia from the description is that it is one of the conditions that falls into the loophole of the Lagen on Rättspsykiatriskvård - as only those with treatable mental conditions can be sentenced to care.

Even so I find it shocking that a confused and frail man can be sentenced to prison rather than an alternative form of care
17:44 August 4, 2010 by Swedesmith
He's not gonna be much fun in the shower.
20:17 August 4, 2010 by RoyceD
... what exactly does a prisoner on strike look like?

Either way the penal system is a joke, globally and especially here in Sweden.
22:53 August 4, 2010 by bob3000
@Swedesmith

Yes, a soggy diaper could be a passion killer.

@Puffin

I personally know people who work in social services and they are constantly being drawn into police cases to help anyone thought to be vulnerable. The police are very sensitive procedurally to these issues - if not overly so. I tend to think that people try to do a good job, conscientiously - rather than assume everyone is incompetent and intentionally messing up. But hey-ho.

f you or your son/wife/daughter were stabbed/attacked/raped by a person with "a walking stick/diaper/dementia - wooden leg, glass eye" (pick one or more) - would you feel less attacked. Of course not.

@GLO, etc, etc.

Looking on google, it would seem there is a global problem with elderly convicts, a quick search turned up abundant references to both the US and Japan. It would seem there is age equality in crime. If thelocal actually provided facts, like journalists, not translated headlines - then we might have a chance to fully understand the full story (apart from those of us capable to read the Swedish sources).

Just remember, being in society is a privilege, not a right.
22:57 August 4, 2010 by Da Goat
What a really clever old man signing himself up for better care and for free too. Everyone knows you get better care in prison than in a home, the prisoners are just sore that they have to share with an old gubber if he has a better time in jail he will tell the other oldies and they will all assault police to get into the state run care facility.

why live in a smelly old aged home when you can live in a holiday resort!

will the guards put their foot down and smack the prisoners around to get them into the cells if they strike, are prisoners able to go on strike, after all they are not supposed to be their for their own pleasure, but we all know they are!

this article is hilarious, Me I'm ROFLMAO!

Prison is the best care one can find these days they will not be able to move him short of killing him, and I guess he would not mind this either it is probably better than the care the prisoners are trying to push him into!

this is the best and funniest article the local has ever produced!
12:20 August 5, 2010 by LeoKinmann
I have to agree with Da Goat on this one. Given the poor condition of the elderly daycare we got in Sweden, prison is much better off. You gain access to regular shower, better food, more freedom to move around in a larger facility located in a holiday resort and what not. Maybe this is the beginning of something new. What comes next is the relocation of all prisoners to daycare centers and the elderly to the pristine prison facilities. If that's about to happen, then of course the prisoners feel compelled to strike. A perfect example of how undesirable the condition can be where they keep old people nowadays. Not even the physically prime convicts wanna end up there!
23:00 August 6, 2010 by Luke35711
Sweden seems to have a good deal of elderly people behaving strangely. That's probably an unavoidable price for longer lives, social isolation, and declining role of religion. It's all good and proper to be liberal, rational, pro-science and all that, but society also needs a moral backbone, civility and kindness to function; one probably understands that more as they age..
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