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Swedes attending Pakistan terror camp

Published: 02 Oct 2010 17:42 GMT+02:00
Updated: 02 Oct 2010 17:42 GMT+02:00

"We adjudge that it is a question of a handful of people who have travelled there to take part in training camps and to participate in illegal violent acts," said Patrik Peter at the Security Service.

The Security Service declined to comment on whether there was a link with the raised terror alert announced to the public on Friday.

The CIA has recently carried out a series of attacks with so-called unmanned drones against militant Islamists in Northern Waziristan in Pakistan. Several international media have connected the attacks with warnings over planned terrorist attacks in Europe which became known earlier in the week.

Terrorists carrying European passports have been reported to be heading for Europe with the intention of carrying out spectacular attacks in Germany, France and the UK.

The warnings are rumoured to have their basis in information obtained from a German citizen who was arrested in Afghanistan in July.

It became known on Friday that the Swedish Security Service had raised the terror alert in mid-September from level two to three, "elevated" - the highest level for five years.

"It is a question of a number of individuals in Sweden who have the intention and capacity to carry out attacks against Swedish targets. It is too early to say what motivates these individuals," said John Daniels at the Swedish Military Intelligence and Security Service (MUST) on Friday.

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18:33 October 2, 2010 by hogar2010
Long time I didn't read something so comic: "It is too early to say what motivates these individuals". Everybody knows that Muslims are connected on the basis of religion and not on the basis of nationality, it means their resistance to imperialism (robbing of other societies in the name of corporations) is international. the same as NATO is international alliance for criminal wars. All people in this world have right to protect themselves from aggressors. I am atheist, but war is war. I know man who grew up in Sweden, his parents are from Croatia, when there was war between Serbia and Croatia, he traveled to Croatia and fought there against Serbs. It is stupid question what motivated him.
18:48 October 2, 2010 by rafa1981
Yes of course, I believe everything, isn´t now the parlamient deciding the Afghanistan troop continuity?

If there is a remote possibility of terrorism to exist, why the terrorists would be worried with such a small country like Sweden with no militar relevance that it´s taking more refugees than anyone, and as a plus always showing disconformity to the Israel-Palestine affair?, come on, this is pure scaremongering propaganda.

Oh, yes, it´s because SD [/ironic], Austria and Netherlands had much more right wing support and nothing never happened, apart of both leaders being death in different circumstances.
19:14 October 2, 2010 by izbz
No problem...Swedish government is always willing to bail them out if anything goes wrong after all it is not from their own pocket but the taxpayers', Maybe they are only attending a religiious seminar or going for prilgrimage....

Just like the last one did!!!!!!

Aii Yo!!!!! Security service framing these nice people
19:58 October 2, 2010 by Ugly Indian
I tried to hold me to laugh but couldnt Wats going on with TheLocal make a jokes section in newspaper n put these kind of stuffs there =)
21:10 October 2, 2010 by Torontonian
This is too funny to read:

"Swedes" attending Pakistan terror camp

"It is too early to say what motivates these individuals"

...these folks have no common denominator, they do not fit a certain "profile". They come from all walks of life, they have different heights and they like different flavors of ice cream. its too early to figure out who they are. They are just "Swedes".
21:56 October 2, 2010 by Iraniboy
Have they?

Arrest them! Provide the court with the evidence, put them in jail. If you are not sure who they are and have no evidence of what they do (I don't mean a woman's call from a telephone booth) just SHUT UP instead of accusation!!!
21:58 October 2, 2010 by wenddiver
Wow, I was completely fooled by post #1. I completely believe he is just a normal every day Swede who is not a Muslim. He just radiates Swedish values and is no threat to the native Swedes, because everybody khows everybody in the world who sees something they disagree with just stops what they are doing and goes to the nearest terrorist camp to learn how to slaughter innocents until they get their way.

Funny how much he sounds like a Muslim terrorist, but I'll just have to take his word that he is an Atheist Swede and let him into Sweden and give him money from the government, so he can fly back and forth to Pakistan and meet with the other Swedes who go to camp in the caves.

The Lutheran's have a camp in Onamina, Minnesota, why do you figure NATO never hits them with a Hellfire Missile???? Must be Islamophobia.
22:21 October 2, 2010 by Andersson
Its interesting to see "submissive Sweden "using the same vacabulary(terror alert , terror camp ect ect) as in practice by big brothers.
23:37 October 2, 2010 by Tusker
None of the accusations in this article are true. This group have simply gone back home to proudly show off their new Swedish passports.

They just want to repay the financial support given to them, and the kindnesses shown them, by the people of Sweden, by educating the primitives back home to start respecting women's rights, to demand education for girls and of course, to insist upon the big one they have learnt in the West, religious freedom.

One more thing...if anybody wants to see the Fairies at the end of my garden...they should be back sometime before Christmas.
00:54 October 3, 2010 by raheelj
At last swedish goverment start taking notes from US following a foot prints of big brother in all ways of life which was missing earlier....:(

what a great change after election. I was neaver ever expecting something like this from swedish people. Good start anyways towards a big destruction.
02:25 October 3, 2010 by jimmyjames
There were no, repeat, NO, Swedes in any terror camps ! Let us speak the truth without the polically correct moronic verbage the Kum-by-ya crowd use....the individuals in question were REFUGEES taken in by the nieve Swedes who were granted Swedish citizenship by the childlike Swedes and finally given passports by the Swedes and I'll be willing to bet that the money used to fund their trips to the camps came from the Swedish taxpayer. I find it hard to believe that just a few centuries ago the Swedes and other Norsemen were the MOST FEARED, MOST RESPECTED, MOST AGGRESSIVE WARRIORS the world had ever known....THE VIKINGS. What happened ? I keep asking myself that question. How could such a great peoples so quickly become so simple ? It is a sad shame that will be forever a great historical mystery.
02:34 October 3, 2010 by bolababu
@jimmyjames; i would advise that you go back and read up on your history again, you probably mistook braveheart for the vikings.
07:45 October 3, 2010 by Viva Melita
@JimmyJames, You, just like the English have been chemically castrated with decades of Marxist brainwashing. It is evil to even mention anything that sounds like you are defending yourself or your own identity.

Cowardice is now a defence against the hatemongers of the left who will demonise you and/or take your employment away from you if you dare but murmur anything that contradicts their evil dogma.

Evil flourishes when good men do nothing, good Englishmen and good Swedes have no balls.
07:59 October 3, 2010 by wenddiver
@Viva Melita- I don't know I would say a certain amount of the population in the US, Sweden, Holland, Austria, Denmark, Germany and even France are starting to wake up and smell the people fantasizing about killing their families in their own countries being supported by leftist politicians who wish to destroy their country. I believe by attacking the west on 911 they have done nothing but awaken a terrible giant and will come to curse this day as their worst night mare come true. Any man who will fight for his country's Freedom deserves our support, until we have completely erradicated terror from this worlld. Good Luck men of Sweden.
09:09 October 3, 2010 by Nemesis
Now for some good advice.

In the words of Douglas Adams.

"DON'T PANIC".
09:35 October 3, 2010 by N0DE
CIA trying to make fool of Swedes , yet again . :D :D ...
10:39 October 3, 2010 by Rey Stockholm
Once again I fail to see any of the muslim readers denouncing nor apologising for these people.
11:11 October 3, 2010 by Marko2010S
@N0DE #16

Swedes are proper fools ? do you deny this fact?

You don't need to go far all the way to the US, just ask your neighbors (In Norway) about what they think of Swedes :) ?
11:39 October 3, 2010 by my.oblivion101
Its deplorable..
11:57 October 3, 2010 by rafa1981
"It is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad."

James Madison

"Advertisements contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper. "

Thomas Jefferson
14:01 October 3, 2010 by zooeden
Let us talk about an integration policy...
14:30 October 3, 2010 by RememberAisha
All the world belongs to Allah.

Thats what certain morons who follow a pedo prophet (remember Aisha) believe in, and last I checked Sweden occupies a space in this world.

It was just a matter of time, we have all seen the troubles in Denmark, France, UK and US... How in the world could you be so naive to think that that cancer was not going to come into peaceful little Sweden?

They have never hid the fact that people who don't believe as them are "infidels", and the very book that is the base of their religion says to kill the infidels - seriously, which part of that is so hard to understand?

I have been saying this for years, WAKE THE F UP SWEDEN.

This is my adopted country and I would hate to see it fall to the cancer...
15:25 October 3, 2010 by Rebel
Wait, isn't this news article distracting Swedes from the real issue -- that of the insensitivity of the Swedish Democrats????
15:39 October 3, 2010 by vladd777
None so blind as those who refuse to see!
17:29 October 3, 2010 by Andersson
Their homes have been detroyed and families are forced to live in CAMPS of tents..and fear of loosing the lives always cause terror in their heart.. anyone who goes there can be subjected to "attending terror camp... agreed!!!
17:43 October 3, 2010 by coolguy09
This is so Humorous swedish security services SAPO and MUST got information what a piece of crap this story is , a story this is not expected from extremely tolerant and educated ,civilized nation.

I have few interesting comparison for thelocal.se sweden vs pakistan comparisons

(1) The most notable behind the scene pakistani operation is bringing down the soviet invasion in afghanistan

(2)pakistan army has won feather in its hat for the most shortest and professionally handeld insurgency in world with minimum collateral damage ,i.e Waziristan ,Swat just goto janes.com and time.com

so in short leave it to pakistanis /americans ............lol

they are capable of eradicating the menace of terrorism
19:33 October 3, 2010 by JoeSwede
one weeks it's "we like those that are not like ourselves"....

next week it's "Swedes attending Pakistan terror camp"

Moderate Muslimes please stand up and make your selves heard. Protest the muslim hard line insanity.
19:39 October 3, 2010 by izbz
@Raheej

Only thing you are wrong is Swedish government had been spending notes(instead of taking notes) bailing them out from these nono lands.

@Remember Aisha

Glad that you remember that this country adopted you but if the whole world belongs to Allah

I wonder who adopt who?

@Marco2010S

It takes a bigger fool to stay in a country full of proper fools....So go home to your country.
20:25 October 3, 2010 by wxman
Oh, please. Swedes attending Pakistan training. Let me fix that for ya. Swedish citizens attending Pakistan training camp. Let's not misrepresent or mislead regarding what is actually happening.
20:53 October 3, 2010 by RememberAisha
@izbz,

Perhaps you misunderstood me.

I meant the crazies think the whole world belongs to Allah, personally if the the "prophet Muhammad" came into my house with "Allah" I would boot both of them out ASAP as I wouldnt tolerate a pedophile in my house along with his master - who encourages slaying of everyone who does no believe in him, has no problem with pedophilia, thinks women should be treated as second class citizens etc(the list is almost endless).

Sweden accepted me, and I accept Sweden - which also means defending her from the harm the crazies want to inflict on her.
21:20 October 3, 2010 by LuxVeritas
What am I really being told? Who is telling me? Why are they telling me? Because I despise this democracy does not mean that I embrace an 'ism'. What happened to morals, ethics and justice? Our self-serving sanctimonious democracy for and by plutocratic elites brainwashes into the acceptance of torture, invasion, sacking and all kinds of criminal acts.

Does anyone see this double speak and standards? How can this sort of democracy be a legitimate form of governance? When in Sweden or any other country the state police or security forces; on a whim, tazer people, arrest them for peaceful demonstration, beat them, detain without representation and or set up cameras to spy, intimidate or fine to raise capital through legalised extortion or under pretence of security; will a Swede who doesn't wish to comply be branded a terrorist, or someone exercising a right to not consent to governance he/ she finds unethical, immoral or unjust.

Who are the terrorists? I will avoid expanding upon state, corporate or banking based support, training or use of such tactics. Research or soak up mind bending media disinformation, malformation or pre-emptive programming for surreptitiously planned actions. But it is interesting to note that drone attacks, use of depleted uranium in Iraq and countless criminal acts on foreign sovereign soil appear to be considered acceptable by some (especially in government/ elite circles). Who is terrorising who and for what purpose? How many peoples must be vilified? What people or organisations benefit from a constant state of war and fear?

Consider the cause effect: Richstag burns = marshal law, supposed Polish murder of German border troops = Nazi's invade. US removes its best ships from Pearl Harbour just prior to bombing = US in WW2. False flag Bay of Tonkin = US Vietnam. NY two towers = patriot act. London tube bombings = terrorist laws, etc. Madrid, Atocha = war escalation, rights reduction etc. Other examples exist. In almost all cases, whether false flag or "genuine" terror attacks; in essence it favours a move to state oppression through fear/ security. (Terrorism: The systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion: Drone attacks, abduction and torture of people without legal representation). Who is the freedom fighter and who is the terrorist?

"It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes".

- Major General Smedley D. Butler.

Ask yourself why you are not taught this in school or university?
22:33 October 3, 2010 by Andersson
@RememberAisha..Sweden did a great mistake by accepting you. Your nick, your comments, your language all reflect your great grooming back in your home and home country both... please keep your wrath with you which just can serve to ignite hatered among others...
00:17 October 4, 2010 by maakm
@rememberaisha

I have a feeling that you don't know 1% about Islam.you are saying what you hear from the Western media which is controlled by Zionists and Freemasons.You exactly follow that media.

I am saying this because teaching of Islam is totally opposite what you know.
01:24 October 4, 2010 by vb74
I'm beginning to wonder if Swedes are naive about the threat muslims pose or if they are just completely inbred. Even though Swedes have a worldwide reputation for being wimps I would think they would have enough courage to stand up and state the obvious. They are completely destroying their country with immigration and these ridiculous policies, I read somewhere that non-citizens are allowed to vote!These people make the Polish look like a race brainiacs.Personally I don't think Sweden is gonna make it.They'll go down n history as our wimpy cousins who ceased to exist because they had histories biggest identity crises.
06:38 October 4, 2010 by orndumma
For those of you who are making fun of the threat level, should understand that its the duty of the government to protect its citizens from all kind of threats. If there are some Pakis trying to harm sweden, I support the government in whatever decision it takes in the interest of its people.

People need to understand these terrorists are among you and me. Filtering them takes some harsh methods. but in the end its for ur good.
07:24 October 4, 2010 by flintis
@bolababu: I don't recollect any history of the Scots, invading other countries, apart from the very sparcely populated borders, wereas the Vikings got to Turkey & discovered the Americas. Braveheart is a figment of someone imagination & if you look up YOUR history you'll find the film makers were also not bothered about the truth.

@Viva Melita: your the one that's gutless, hiding behind your girly title, come & play rugby with us & we'll show you who's got no balls.

Marxist England?? I think you've got your geography wrong or you've been brainwashed.
14:19 October 4, 2010 by vb74
@maakm

I don't care what some muslims preach I care about what they practice honor killings, stoning gays, oppressing women, hatred of other religions, rape. Nobody with brains are buying your lies anymore. Islam needs to be eradicated.
16:08 October 4, 2010 by rafa1981
I´m with LuxVeritas as usual.
16:27 October 4, 2010 by ngecenk
this is why i hate swedish media. the information is presented vaguely that its impossible to understand whats really happened. are they really a refugee with sweden citizenship? or are they really just a bunch of leftist viking-descendant white boys? it ended up by stupid rightist arguing with religious nuts to decide who they really are.
16:37 October 4, 2010 by Viva Melita
@Flintis.

Did you pen that after coming out with Gareth Thomas?.Steroid bloated Rugby players do not frighten me unless they come from behind of course.
17:04 October 4, 2010 by J Jack
You are all as bad as each other. Take your opinions out and get back to peacefully discussing the article. Swedes training to destroy peace, in Pakistan. What's that got to do with rugby or steriods?
17:20 October 4, 2010 by planethero
i enjoyed your post lux veritas, interesting point of view!
20:00 October 4, 2010 by d_s
I find this terror-threat scale thingy quite amusing.

One starts to think that what on earth could be its purpose? I mean that the state security apparatus comes public with this.. meter. Hi guys, were at 3 now, and that means you should be afraid. Since 5 is the top of the scale. So be very afraid. Attaboy.

There was some guy from defense - looking very depressed, one may also mention - on TV as well, trying to say something along the lines that he does not like this at all. Wonder why :)
20:07 October 4, 2010 by Dave N
Over the past week I have heard various Muslims from Islamic colonies in Europe ( who are training for jihad) described in the press and on TV as Britons, Germans and now Swedes - whenobviously they are nothing of the sort. Asians and Africans can no more be Britons, Germans and Swedes than an Eskimo can be a Zulu. Politically Correct nonsense from the media - who are trying to indoctrinate us into accepting that the invading Muslim colonists belong here in Europe when they most obviously do not.
21:18 October 4, 2010 by Imran Akram
Its such a pity to see the same Zionist propaganda in action here in Sweden as well. Just like the previous brazenly obvious false flag patsy named Faisal Shahzad for Times square bombing now they're coming up with such nonsensical stories to terrify people and introduce Fascism. Hey, how about this for a change, why dont we just stop being a complete sissy for a while and point the fingers at the very well known High-tech terrorists, who already did Operation Galladio, Operation Northwoods, Operation Ajax, the Gulf of Tonkin hoax. Is anybody smart enough to know where I'm pointing too?
21:56 October 4, 2010 by JPLL
@Imran Akram #45:

What interest is Sweden to the Zionist ? It is Muslim propaganda to fool people in the west by stating Islam is a religion of peace etc. Islam is the only religion that I have come across in which it is perfectly acceptable to lie and deceive people. According to the Quran, Allah is the greatest of all deceivers .. Muslims should not take non Muslims as friends over Muslims unless it is for security.

The Muslim propaganda is simple, get the sympathy of countries like Sweden on humanitarian grounds so that they allow more refugees. These in turn become a virus that destroys the host itself.
22:53 October 4, 2010 by Tdye
@ NODE

you uneducated dumb @ss this article CLEARLY said

The CIA has recently carried out a series of attacks with so-called unmanned drones against militant Islamists in Northern Waziristan in Pakistan. Several international media have connected the attacks with warnings over planned terrorist attacks in Europe which became known earlier in the week.

clearly the CIA said NOTHING about Sweden being terrorists like i said before on another post to another idiot.. you need to do some research on American/Swedish relations moron..better yet just look around Sweden..notice ALL of the American Company's?

America is the 3rd largest exporter in Sweden..all of this means we are on your side stupid! and Sweden is on our side! stupid..the last thing America wants is to ruin ties with Sweden..and trust me.. Sweden needs America

you should stop reading the SD hand outs and read real news and real books..
23:35 October 4, 2010 by vb74
@wenndiver #14

Well put, I think people all over the west are beginning to see these people for what they really are and their true intentions. I too have wondered if this won't result in a great war between the west and islam that would eventually result in the destruction of the muslim world. They might be making a huge mistake everyone knows muslims are no match. Islam cannot build great nations so it's only real power lies in it's ability to invade great nations internally like a parasite. But as more and more people everyday realise this fact I think some kind of drastic measure is inevitable.
00:31 October 5, 2010 by Dave N
vb74 - You are so right. Anyone who has read the Koran, Sira and Hadith should know that Islam is a danger to civilisation. Some people say it's a clash of civilisations but to have a clash you actually do have to have two civilisations - and unfortunately there is no Muslim civilisation. Like the Romans we have an advanced civilised society being invaded by primitive, violent barbarians.
01:34 October 5, 2010 by Goodwill81
"Swedes", that's a good one, lol. Like it or not, seems to me SD is the only one willing to do something before the "Swedes" take over this wonderful country and turn it into Eurabia. Oh sorry, I almost forgot, half of Malmö is already lost. WAKE UP!
01:38 October 5, 2010 by vb74
@Dave N

I'm glad to see that people throughout the west are really beginning to get informed about the true nature of this religion / totalitarian political ideology I don't know where you live but I really hope that you try to open a diologue with as many people as possible about this. It seems that you have a good understanding about the threat islam poses and the more people's eyes you can open to the truth the better off we will all be.Take care
01:43 October 5, 2010 by JoeSwede
@JPLL - nice comment...

The Muslim propaganda is simple, get the sympathy of countries like Sweden on humanitarian grounds so that they allow more refugees. These in turn become a virus that destroys the host itself.

In a nutshell that is the question...will refugees save or kill Sweden? Sweden is betting that refugees will push their country forward. What they forgot was that country vs. country is a dynamic competition and other countries are going to kill Sweden economically now. Even if the refugees live peacefully in the apartments, what will they do, how will they push economic growth fourty years from now given that other countries will also be developing each year with a different strategy - train their own people.
05:40 October 5, 2010 by Viva Melita
@tdye

I think you need to read real books, try tghis one.

http://www.talmudunmasked.com/
07:21 October 5, 2010 by flintis
@vivamelissa: Who the f* is Gareth Thomas?
10:30 October 5, 2010 by rafa1981
Every religion contains hard passages, you can' t judge religions for that.
16:15 October 5, 2010 by Imran Akram
@JPLL: Qouting a few out of context quotations from the Quran just goes to show that either you're just totally ignorant or just trying to deceive people here. Sweden itself should not have anything to do with the Zionists but isnt it strange to see the same terms used by the Zionists getting used here. Why doens't Sweden stand up and demand a reinvestigation of 9-11 which many americans also believe is a great conspiracy as was the gulf on tonkin incident that started the vietnam war.

As far as your allegations about Islam not being the religion of peace, well it depends on how you define peace. I can tell you one thing about it and that is the fact that Islam is not a passive religion to tell you to turn your other cheek when you get slapped on one side. Yes, it does demand you to stand up and fight when you face tyranny and suppression. It demands us to stand up for our values, our culture, political system and for men to defend their women. Having said that, it is as peaceful as it can get as long as you stay out of interfering in our business. So if you think you have every right to be violent to defend ourselves, well so does Islam authorize us to do so as well. You remain non violent and not poke around in our business and no genuine muslim will ever harm you.

As far as Muslim propaganda is concerned... what propaganda are you talking about anyway? How many genuinely free Muslim countries do you find anyway? Do you see any Islamic political order anywhere in the world? And if not then why? Is it the Muslims occupying America or Americans occupying Muslim land? Is it the Zionist illigitimate regime occupying Palestine or Palestine occupying Israel? Is it India occupying Kashmir or Kashmir occupying India? Is it the Iraqi women getting raped by US soldiers or the othert way around?

What kind of peace do you expect in these circumstances anyway? People are either fleeing their motherlands to get some peace from the occupying forces or they're fighting and dying under the tyranny and suppression that you dare not speak against. We Muslims who are here in Sweden want peace and respect thats all. It is also Islam that tells us to follow the rules and regulations of the foreign country you live in. We realize that this is not our home, but why dont you support us to get the occupation forces out of our homes?
08:02 October 6, 2010 by Tdye
@Viva Melita

I am a bit Confused as to why you would want me to read a book about Jesus and god..I am an Atheist so i have NO desire to read fictional books

secondly..i never once mentioned any christian reffrencecs in my post i made

what i did say was Sweden and America have both a millitary and economical relationship..there for the CIA has NO reason to claim that Sweden breeds terrorists...

you need us as much as we need you..well you need us more but who is keeping score..

so i will ignore that post you made to me because i think you meant to send it to someone else..
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