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Swedish nobility scoffs at woman's claims to blue-blooded name
"The House of Nobility (Riddarhuset) in Stockholm"

Swedish nobility scoffs at woman's claims to blue-blooded name

Published: 11 Nov 2010 11:56 GMT+01:00
Updated: 11 Nov 2010 11:56 GMT+01:00

”Claiming family descent and the rights to a name through the female side (of the family) is not geneologically correct,” explained House of Nobility geneologist Per Nordenval.

The desired name, Lillie af Aspenäs, existed in Sweden until it died out in June 1839, according to the House of Nobility, and is included as a noble name according to their register.

The House of Nobility recorded its objections after responding to a public notice, which is standard procedure by the Swedish Patent and Registration Office (Patent och registeringsverket - PRV), the government agency responsible for ruling on name changes, in cases of unusual names.

”We publish the names via our webpage and then there is a month when objections can be registered,” Jan Ottosson, a lawyer at the Patent Office, explained to The Local on Thursday.

”The House of Nobility tends to object to nobel names as a matter of course,” he added.

The Patent Office bases its decisions in the Swedish naming law (namnlagen). Under the stipulations of the law surnames are divided into two categories – names that already exist and new names, which are then tried against a series of legal requirements.

”In this case it was ruled that since the name had existed historically, it could not be considered a new name which thus removed a number of legal factors that would prevent its approval,” Ottosson said.

The House of Nobility however argued that even if the name is not considered to be a new name under the law - a decision it described as ”remarkable” - as the name exists in the Swedish biographical dictionary, it is ”generally known” and thus should be rejected.

But in this case, PRV decided that as the name had died out it was no longer known and should not be considered alongside more familiar historical figures.

”If you take a name like Vasa for example, everybody knows that name and so it can't be approved. And I think most people would agree that we can not all be called Bernadotte,” Ottosson said, referring to King Gustav Vasa (1521-1560), and the family name of the reigning Swedish monarch.

Jan Ottosson told The Local that the case remains open and that if no further appeals are submitted, then a decision is likely to be made next week.

"But even if the name is approved, it confers no status of nobility - many people forget that."

Peter Vinthagen Simpson (news@thelocal.se)

Your comments about this article

13:53 November 11, 2010 by Rolle
I don't get people who changes last name, just to show off a noble heritage. Get real, most people has at least a bit of 'noble blood' in Sweden nowadays
14:13 November 11, 2010 by jackx123
noble from which part of the world? Somalia?
14:52 November 11, 2010 by zircon
I have zirconite in my blood. Does that count for anything blue- ish...
15:04 November 11, 2010 by TheOriginalBlackMan
Somalia was at one time called the Land of Punt, birthplace of Civilization. All the legitimate (Black) Pharaohs came from the womb of Ethiopia and Somalia.

Ma'at

Nevertheless, how twisted of the Swedes to go against nature and follow the Blood line only through the male. It is woman who gives birth and brings life in the world.
15:11 November 11, 2010 by calebian22
Those Pharoahs sure would be proud of Somolia and Ethiopia of today, I bet.
16:44 November 11, 2010 by maxbrando
Comment removed by The Local for breach of our terms.
17:58 November 11, 2010 by bolababu
@maxbrando:- hey redneck, ..last time i checked, muderers and rapists existed in sweden, not to mention your viking heritage of mass thieves and rapists who attack defenseless women while their husbands were out at work.

Even in Africa, there are more european and american phaedophiles roaming the streets than actual africans.
18:43 November 11, 2010 by Nemesis
So much for Swedish equality. Only males can have royal lines.

Someone should inform these idiots that when they came into this world, they came into it through a vagina.
18:58 November 11, 2010 by zircon
8. Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
19:50 November 11, 2010 by wenddiver
Oh we could never be as Royal as a Bernadotte. Get real, they were French Republican Linen merchants, who got pawned off on Sweden by arch Criminal and Mass Murder Napolean Bonaparte. His august linage is middle class italian?

They are as Swedish as your Somali exiles, both should be sent home as soon as possible as a national embarassment.

Monarchy is so ignorant it is unreal. Look, I see some one b
20:36 November 11, 2010 by locaxy
Names that show one's "nobility" or "ethnicity" are part of a hopefully soon-to-be obsolete trend inherited from a dark past.

But frankly, in a country that tolerates the title of "monarch", such rulings aren't really surprising....
22:25 November 11, 2010 by mikewhite
In fact the matrilineal Jewish law is more correct: the mother's DNA is preserved intact in the mitochondria of her offspring; for the rest of the cell the father gets a 50% mix.
00:16 November 12, 2010 by Tanskalainen
I wanted to change my name to Peraaukko but they told me it was too noble.
03:48 November 12, 2010 by janswed
Just a sidebar info, Jake Gyllenhal has a seat in the Riddarhuset he is a Swedish Nobleman by birth.
04:24 November 12, 2010 by zircon
Call me tyrant Zircon.
08:44 November 12, 2010 by Argentina84
"Nobility is not inherited on the mother's side"

So what´s going to happen with Victoria and Daniel´s children? That's going to be an excpetion, I guess? ;)
10:07 November 12, 2010 by Da Goat
Simple if you want a noble name go abroad change it and come back.

then again who really cares about names in Sweden as long as your number is not changed

people are indexed by number not name!
10:35 November 12, 2010 by zooeden
This is just ridiculous god damn it! Frippin blue blooded!!!
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