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Islamic group invited anti-Semitic speaker

Published: 25 Mar 2011 07:38 GMT+01:00
Updated: 25 Mar 2011 07:38 GMT+01:00

The newspaper names, among others, Salah Sultan, an Egyptian professor who has expressed anti-Semitism in several film clips on Youtube.

In one particular film, he quoted a myth which circulated in the Middle Ages of Jewish ritual murder, DN reported.

Sultan has also gone on the record with claims that Jews are part of an international conspiracy trying to control the world.

After being shown the YouTube clips of the Egyptian speaking, Abdirizak Waberi, a member of parliament and former chairperson of the Islamic Association, expressed surprise.

"We have invited him in good faith," he said.

Waberi stressed that had the association known of the film clips, the lecturer would probably not have been invited. He furthermore underlined that Sultan said nothing that could be construed as anti-Semitic during the course of the conference.

Integration Minister Eric Ullenhag has seen with the two clips featuring Sultan and stated that he considered the content to be "clearly anti-Semitic, " DN reported.

"We do not know what Salah Sultan said when he was in Stockholm, but to invite him was inappropriate," the minister told the newspaper.

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08:45 March 25, 2011 by RobinHood
Salah Sultan is perfectly entitled to his loopy opinions, and the Islamic Association is perfectly entitled to hear them. Though it seems he didn't actually say anything controversial at the conferance anyway (where's the story?). I don't want to live in a society where ideas are repressed because a government minister disagrees with them. Happily, societies like that are collapsing in the Islamic world; we don't need them in Northern Europe either thank you very much Mr Ullenhag. Rant away mad Mr Sultan; but remember, just because I listen to you, doesn't mean I agree with you. Because I don't.
09:21 March 25, 2011 by Nemesis
They knew full well that they had invited an anti-semitic lecturer.

The same would apply to anyone inviting the mayor or Malmö for any reason.
09:27 March 25, 2011 by blursd
Hmmm, an Islamic Association hired people with outspoken anti-Semitic views. How shocking ...
09:53 March 25, 2011 by truthworthy
So what ? where the hell is the freedom of speech you preach? everyone has the right to express themselves in Sweden isn't that what they say?.

Mr Waberi is weak apologist who cant stand for his believes.
10:07 March 25, 2011 by LonelyLove
Lots of Swedes hate Jews.

Nothing out of the ordinary here.
10:10 March 25, 2011 by engagebrain
A limitation of freedom of speech ought to be truth.

Ritual killings of Christians for Jewish religious purposes are simply untrue,

but despite being untrue this nonsense has been used to incite anti semitism and led to the deaths of the majority of European jews in the 20th century.

Lies can kill.

Give the Islamic Association credit for admitting to a mistake and beware of lies about Muslims.
11:21 March 25, 2011 by SweAbroad
Freedom of speech doesn't mean it's allowed to say whatever you like. There are limits and one such is neo-nazi propaganda, including anti-semitism.
11:28 March 25, 2011 by truthworthy
@Engagebrain @Sweabroad you say freedom of speech should have limits but how many islamophobic comments are made everyday in Sweden and around Europe? do you know the status those people enjoy? they get invited by universities and associations to continue preaching hatred and bigotry against Muslims and no one complains about it.

As soon as someone says something about Jews the whole world cries and everyone is accused of anti-semitism.

I am certainly against anti-semitism and all forms or racism so I would recommend Sweden to take responsibility and stop this freedom of speech bullsh*t. No anti-semitism and No Islamophobia.

Otherwise let everyone speak what every they want.
12:33 March 25, 2011 by Rick Methven
@trustworthy

"No anti-semitism and No Islamophobia.

Otherwise let everyone speak what every they want."

So anti-Christian speech is OK then in your book?
12:57 March 25, 2011 by Rishonim
Islamofascists always need to bring someone to speak on their behalf since we know well their brain is less develop than a newborn piglet..
13:28 March 25, 2011 by Syftfel
How has this story been covered by the fish wrap of record, Aftonbladet? Of course, freedom of expression includes the right to express that which may be offensive to some, but we must assume then that the mainstream media cover anti-islamic speakers with the same lack of urgency. As for anti-Christian invective, Sweden and the Nordic countries are culturally and historically Christian, and Christianity is thus entitled to a somewhat favored status as compared to other alien and primitive religions and cultures. Simply put Christianity has, and should have, a favored status in Sweden, although one should be allowed to express some criticism in the name of freedom of expression.
13:48 March 25, 2011 by telaviv
In 1941 the Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin El Husseini met Adolf Hitler on the program was the eliminations of the Jews in Palestian and in the Arab countries.between 1948-1956 many Nazies were hidden in Eygpt and Syria helping them with their planes to destroy Israel ,specially in Eygpt were Nazi scientist who helped the Eygptian army to create their missle program.

In Eygpt the book of Julios Streicher the old of Zion was translated to arabic and one can buy it easly,

Therefore as an Israeli and a son of Holocaust surviviors I am not surprised.
14:48 March 25, 2011 by ajs42548
No one said that he should be arrested for antisemitic speech. They said he shouldn't have been invited. There's a big difference. And as was pointed out, the kind of lies this guy spreads can and does kill.
14:51 March 25, 2011 by niceniazi
Freedom of Speech
14:59 March 25, 2011 by bcterry
Let's get real here for christ's sake.

Qur'an 2:61 "Humiliation and wretchedness were stamped on the Jews and they were visited with Allah's wrath."

Qur'an 4:47 "O you People of the Book to whom the Scripture has been given, believe in what We have (now) revealed, confirming and verifying what was possessed by you, before We destroy your faces beyond all recognition, turning you on your backs, and curse you as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers, for the decision of Allah Must be executed."

Qur'an 4:160 "For the iniquity of the Jews We made unlawful for them certain (foods) in that they hindered many from Allah's Way, that they took usury, though they were forbidden, and that they devoured men's wealth on false pretenses, We have prepared for those among them who reject [Islamic] Faith a painful doom."

Qur'an 2:64 "But you [Jews] went back on your word and were lost losers. So become apes, despised and hated. We made an example out of you."

Qur'an 4:55 "Sufficient for the Jew is the Flaming Fire!"
15:01 March 25, 2011 by truthworthy
@Rick Methven

Of course not.

Let me remind everyone that there is a distinction between antisemitism and anti-Zionism. Of course I am all for anti-Zionism and against the idea behind apartheid state of Israel.
15:06 March 25, 2011 by Borilla
Muslims do not recognize Jews. Jews do not recognize Muslims. And Pentacostals do not recognize each other in Systembolaget.
15:13 March 25, 2011 by truthworthy
@bcterry, the verses you quote are not exactly as they are in the Quran. who are you trying to mislead? anyway, compare this.

Quran 2:61 "And [recall] when you said, "O Moses, we can never endure one [kind of] food. So call upon your Lord to bring forth for us from the earth its green herbs and its cucumbers and its garlic and its lentils and its onions." [Moses] said, "Would you exchange what is better for what is less? Go into [any] settlement and indeed, you will have what you have asked." And they were covered with humiliation and poverty and returned with anger from Allah [upon them]. That was because they [repeatedly] disbelieved in the signs of Allah and killed the prophets without right. That was because they disobeyed and were [habitually] transgressing."

Quran 4:47 "O you who were given the Scripture, believe in what We have sent down [to Muhammad], confirming that which is with you, before We obliterate faces and turn them toward their backs or curse them as We cursed the sabbath-breakers. And ever is the decree of Allah accomplished."

Quran 4:160 "For wrongdoing on the part of the Jews, We made unlawful for them [certain] good foods which had been lawful to them, and for their averting from the way of Allah many [people],"

Quran 2:64 "Then you turned away after that. And if not for the favor of Allah upon you and His mercy, you would have been among the losers."

Quran 4:55 "And some among them believed in it, and some among them were averse to it. And sufficient is Hell as a blaze."

Now do they compare no, he is trying to mislead the people my misquoting the Quran. and remember when you read the Quran the context is giving usually on the above or below verses or in another verses from other chapters.
15:26 March 25, 2011 by bcterry
15:01 March 25, 2011 by truthworthy

@Rick Methven

Of course not.

Let me remind everyone that there is a distinction between antisemitism and anti-Zionism. Of course I am all for anti-Zionism and against the idea behind apartheid state of Israel."

I am against fascist islamic theocratic states, that subject non muslims to a 2nd class dhimmi status, and the idea of a caliphate for world domination.

"Islamic Caliphate: The ultimate Muslim dream"
15:35 March 25, 2011 by dunce
Bcterry has it right and trueworthy is practicing taqqiya.
15:42 March 25, 2011 by truthworthy
@dunce like you understand what taqqiya means? just stop for once and think. all the idiocy you read online isn't all true.

bcterry "Islamic Caliphate: The ultimate Muslim dream"

Yes that is the ultimate goal and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
16:24 March 25, 2011 by bcterry
Comment: 15:13 March 25, 2011 by truthworthy @bcterry,

the verses you quote are not exactly as they are in the Quran. who are you trying to mislead? anyway, compare this. "

Zionism is not as you state it is, who are you trying to mislead?

"Now do they compare no, he is trying to mislead the people my misquoting the Quran. and remember when you read the Quran the context is giving usually on the above or below verses or in another verses from other chapters. "

Even your own cherry picked translations are just as vile.

Thanks for the confirmation.

Your contextual argument is a tired old chestnut, as are use of the numerous translations that can be pulled out of a hat anytime it suits.

One only has to look at the verifiable documented facts on the ground in regards to muslims persecution of jews, to understand what islam teaches.

"Ex-Muslim Nonie Darwish: Muslim Hate for Jews Worse than Nazis"

"bcterry "Islamic Caliphate: The ultimate Muslim dream"

Yes that is the ultimate goal and there is nothing you can do to stop it."

LOL, dream on.

People are just starting to wake up. and already the forces of resistance, on the simple basis of everything that is just and humane, has got islam on the run.

Ignorance is no longer your ace in the hole.

Your party is over.
17:01 March 25, 2011 by motti
would sweden allow geert wilders in to make an honest assessment of his views and the reality of his fears? that is freedom of speech.

making false accusations without the opportunity of reply is not freedom of speech.

will any moslem please let me know where there is a good english laguage blog that will accept hatred and ridicule of islam? Perhaps with the uprising of arab countries against their despotic rulers, it may be possible? erm nope. As much chance as hallal slaughtered pigs flying.

As it happens to the ignorants, as a Jew, I brought up to respect other people religions and cultures. As a Jew, I was taught that Judaism spawned both Christianity and then Islam which must be respected. These days, I find it very difficult to respect any religion or culture that worships the deliberate slaughter of innocent people (including a 4month old baby with its throat cut open - how brave!)and ridicules and insults those of another faith.

As a Jew, I was taught to love life and people. We leave it to others to hate life and love death. how tragic and how sad for them. what a loss of making every minute of life to change things for the better.
17:34 March 25, 2011 by unseen
'The Islamic Association in Sweden' i am assuming that these people are arabs! AND arabs are Semites!!!???
17:41 March 25, 2011 by bcterry
17:01 March 25, 2011 by motti.

"As a Jew, I was taught to love life and people. We leave it to others to hate life and love death. how tragic and how sad for them. what a loss of making every minute of life to change things for the better."

As a non jew, i couldn't agree more with this, as well as all the other points you made.
18:18 March 25, 2011 by telaviv
bcterry

in israel are living 7 millions citizens 6 millions jews and 1 million not jews : from them the maggiority muslem sunnite then christian,druze,cherqes, bahai ,aremenian ,

every 4 years there are democratic elections in israel , every citizen from 18 old can vote, in our parliaments there are parties from left wing like merez, an arab party balad whose members generally speak openly against our exisistence,a right wing party.and many other different parties

10 procent of state jobs are reserved to minority citizens,in israel the arabs serve as judges in courts and also in high suprem court, many are working as physicians in hospidals in high positions,many proffessional nurses are muslems,the sport minister from labour party Majalda is arab,the beduinen are muslems who serve in the army but also many other arabs make civil service in hospidals and elsewhere,

we are living near a muslem village some of them are living with us and their children study in our school in our village ,one of them is a pharmacist good friend of mine who opened a drug store in our center,when a children theater come to village our mayor invite the arab parents with their kids to take a part

many arabs are seving in a police station from my village i hear everyday the mouazin because the mosque is not far away we respect their religione and their way of life and they respect us.

i am livinig in south israel inside the green lines the well recognized border of israel
19:42 March 25, 2011 by rufus.t.firefly
A lot of interesting comments. One principle most people here can probably agree on is that hate speech should not be publicly financed, as it sometimes is here in Sweden.

I don't know if the Islamiska Förbundet receives any public funding, but if they do, this speaker, because of his record, should not have any government support, regardless of what he said at the speech in question.

Further, it is difficult to believe that the Islamiska Förbundet hosted him in good faith. They invited the guy for a reason. They must know what he has been going around saying quite openly.
20:17 March 25, 2011 by dt804a
In connection with Swedish antisemitism, especially in relation to Malmo and its mayor, see article entitled "OSCE Human Rights Meeting Takes Sweden to Task", at

http://www.thelocal.se/32806/20110325/
20:20 March 25, 2011 by bcterry
18:18 March 25, 2011 by telaviv

bcterry,

'"Ex-Muslim Nonie Darwish: Muslim Hate for Jews Worse than Nazis"

"http://www.considerationsofacanadianex-muslim.org/index.html"

"Apostates of islam"Testimonies of Leaving Islam

"Testimonies of Leaving Islam"

Of course there are many more of these, but these links, and offshoots, should be enough to keep you busy for many hours.

Enjoy the truth, from those who have been there.
20:22 March 25, 2011 by technoviking
Surprise, surprise. More peace loving, tolerant Muslims in action.

They hate Jews and love loony conspiracy theories. While pitching the "religion of peace" nonsense to the naive and clueless.

Multicultural propaganda meet reality.
20:54 March 25, 2011 by telaviv
Technoviking+bcterry

I have never been to Europe I can tell you just about my small village here in israel

that is the reallity here if you like it or not

you are in Sweden you do in your country whatever you love to do that is your country after all,and we here keeping our lives and ideas.

as you know we know also to defend our country in case of war
21:23 March 25, 2011 by bcterry
20:54 March 25, 2011 by telaviv

Technoviking+bcterry

I have never been to Europe I can tell you just about my small village here in israel

that is the reallity here if you like it or not"

I never disputed it.

What i gave you is also the reality outside your small village, if you like it or not.
23:20 March 25, 2011 by jimmy1988
Islam is the religion of violence, they hate jews and christians.

The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them." K 9:30.

Now this show what they really are, and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
01:08 March 26, 2011 by Uncle
Haha truthworthy is usually vibrating like bag with a bomb in whenever someone says something about his nazi religion. But when muslims invite a Nazi preacher, all of a sudden the sanctity of the free speech is called to be preserved by this joker.

Oh, are you anti-zionist? Not antisemite? Like them muslims in Malmö, who attack jewish girls? Because they are anti-zionist? You beat your wife as well because you are anti-feminist?

Defending a pro-nazi guy who attacks Jews in general because you are against Israel? Wow - that is an excellent reason. In that case you shall be outrageous against muslims, because there is no muslim state in this world that contributed to humanity except for creating Jihad and immigration (unlike Israel, that invented a huge part of the components of the computer that you are writing here with).
04:56 March 26, 2011 by Sylvie7
Whenever I read the comments of writers who are convinced that Jews and Israel are evil, I am reminded how easy it has been for Muslim propaganda to embed itself in Europe.

Lies are repeated as sacred mantra because so many are ignorant about history and current events.

Muslims rejoice in remembering the slaughter in Kaybar. As a Jew, it doesn't matter to me what the appropriate English translation of the Koran's passages on the subject are. Hatred, real violent, physical hatred is encouraged everywhere in the Muslim world against Jews. Of course the Jews aren't the only objects of violent hatred. Just ask a Coptic Christian in Egypt, or the few Christians left in Iraq, or members of the Bahai community in Iran, or Ibo in Nigeria whether they are objects of Muslim hatred.

When have Swedes been subjected to centuries of hatred, just because they are

Swedes, you like the English have never experienced a form of prejudice which is a pillar

of someone else's culture. The Mayor of Malmo is also self righteously comfortable in his

membership in the human race. Who questions his basic value?

Anti Zionism is just anti Semitism. What all of you enjoy, Jews are not allowed to enjoy.

It is remarkable that hatred of Jews exists relentlessly in Europeans, that in one generation after the Holocaust, it has bubbled up like magma with encouragement from a well oiled Muslim propaganda machine.
09:50 March 26, 2011 by telaviv
bcterry

I glad to get information from people living abroad out of my small village, as I am not Swedish and do not living there, it does not bother me if you like to live this way with that hate among yourselves, as I wrote before that is your country ,not mine.
13:16 March 26, 2011 by bcterry
09:50 March 26, 2011 by telaviv

bcterry

I glad to get information from people living abroad out of my small village, as I am not Swedish and do not living there, it does not bother me if you like to live this way with that hate among yourselves, as I wrote before that is your country ,not mine."

Just so i have this right, you're telling me that my efforts to expose the factual, verifiable, documented hatred of others, means that i'm spreading hate towards others?

If so, put up the direct quote of mine where i have expressed hate towards others.

Further more, what have i posted that cannot be backed up by verifiable facts?

Now I'll wait for you to back up your accusation.

Religions , or anything for that matter, do not get free pass on critique, whether you "like it or not".
13:56 March 26, 2011 by Rick Methven
@telaviv

"as I am not Swedish and do not living there, it does not bother me if you like to live this way"

So why on earth to you bother to post comments on a forum that has SFA to do with you?
15:49 March 26, 2011 by dt804a
Rick Mauthausen, #38 - What makes you think that only Swedes or residents of Sweden have a right to post comments on this forum? This site has a moderator, as well as an option to "report abuse". If it's OK with the moderator and the webmaster, who are you to object?

Personally, I have learnt a lot from the comments made by such people as "telaviv" and "uncle", whether or not they are Swedes. Your comments, on the other hand, are uniformly vapid and arid.
17:50 March 26, 2011 by telaviv
to rick Methven

because I am curious to know how people abroad are living and thinking and sometimes I find somebody who thinks like me and that makes me happy and some other times there are people who think different as I think ,as long as I can conduce with the person an openion s change without getting to personal insult. I find it OK.

to your question how did I came to this forum -some friend here sent me the article about the Islamic group in Sweden I read it and then entered the forum
21:10 March 26, 2011 by Uncle
@ LonelyLove

"Lots of Swedes hate Jews."

I would not dump it on Swedes here. Yep. Protestants were famous antisemites. Yep, swedes had a lot against Jews up to the forties. However, now, I would not say that antisemitism is common among originally born Swedes.

Racist muslims, on the other hand are late in the fashion as always. Hating Jews is "so 15th century". Not that they like black Christians from Africa or Buddhist Chinese.... or Hindu Indians.. or arab Druze, or whatever moves and breathes nearby this religion of peace.

Hopefully in few centuries they will start getting some sense of reason.

@dt804a

Thank you. It is really appreciated.
23:34 March 26, 2011 by Atlas
We have a saying from Albania...a retarded threw a stone in the river, hundreds of smarts went diving to find it...

The same thing i notice here with these posts...C'mon guys and girls, give it a rest, nobody is better than anybody, there doesn't exist a superior religion. believe what you want, but stop short of "harassing" others with your own.

And leave all the ethnic races alone, no race in the human history has and is made of saints...in every race there were and are bad "apples".
01:21 March 27, 2011 by Uncle
Why is it only when anti-Semitism is popping up and getting a proper answer, all of a sudden there are cries for living in peace and love?

Atlas, it would be great that someone has told the "retarded" (Islamiska Förbundet) that they should exercise their freedom of speech on Mohammed caricatures first and only then start demanding for an understanding for their nazi traditions from others... How about that cute Holocaust caricature competition in Iran? That was also a good exercise of tolerance and love.

Unfortunately when "bad apples" are promoted by an organisation that represents this so called religion or a government, it says something about the religion as well, even if you leave alone everything else related to this philosophy of life.
05:02 March 27, 2011 by Catarin
I closely follow Biblical archaeology in Israel and was aghast to see the lies and tall stories that Muslims propagate about their rights to the Holy Land and accusations against Jews that makes my blood boil. They have already succeeded in running the Christians out of the West Bank.

Muslims first appeared in Israel when they conquered it in the 7th century CE, by which time Jews had lived there for almost 2000 years. Muslims know they are lying and know we know they are lying but they keep it up. I don't think these Muslims are civilized enough to make good neighbors to anyone. This is the Holy Land of Jews and Christians (Muslims have their own holy land in Arabia), and I am compelled to fight them to the bitter end in order not to allow them to rule it. I hope other fair-minded people will join the cause.
11:32 March 27, 2011 by motti
@rick methven

People read blogs and news from other countries to broaden their outlook on life. hopefully, some actually enrich their lives with this added knowledge. Others. on the other hand can only spit it out.

Do not the Swedes, interfere (how about Libya right now?) or criticise other peoples, nations etc? Do not try to be smart, when your veneer allows the lack of substance to show through.

I will compliment Sweden on one aspect though. You have been overtaken by your nordic cousins, the Norwegians as the biggest Jew/zionist/Israel hating country in Europe.

The Arab propaganda is so bad, that universities made it difficult to allow Dr Dershowitz to speak publicly free of charge in order to counter the lies, misrepresentation and selective reporting in their news media. Surely at the heart of freedom of speech is to allow real historians with legal knowledge to be invited and voice realities? Meanwhile the verbal attacks on Israel and the Jews continues. THere is a very good blog "israelwatch" that has a section title Norway Israel and the Jews. Many of their politicians make the mayor of Malmoe look Goldilocks and Mother therese rolled into one.

I do enjoy quoting from the good book of Proverbs in the Bible. Criticise the wise and he will ove you. Criticise the ignorant and he will hate you. Perhaps some of you need to consider this prior to posting hateful, ignorant messages.
11:42 March 27, 2011 by dr.makni49
Catarin: Your logic to relate Muslims presence to years and centuries is faulty because then you got to be supporting Red Indians whose lands were captured by foreigners. Also aboriginals of Australia could ask the white people to vacate their lands. One thing you are forgetting is that people of Abrahamic religions before the advent of Quran were also Muslims. Islam did not emerge on revelation of Al-Quran but it exists sine Abraham(Ibrahim: peace be upon him) days.
13:20 March 27, 2011 by glamshek
Oh Sweden embrace Islam for this is the true religion. I wish the world gets to know it quickly than never. All the best things belong to the good people who do not beieve in cosmetics.
16:11 March 27, 2011 by bcterry
13:20 March 27, 2011 by glamshek

Oh Sweden embrace Islam for this is the true religion. I wish the world gets to know it quickly than never. All the best things belong to the good people who do not beieve in cosmetics."

Well there you have it folks, all the good things will be yours if you simply abandon cosmetics.

And for all those bad people, who in light of this wisdom, still refuse to embrace the only "true religion" and continue to wear cosmetics, break out the stones, problem solved.
16:31 March 27, 2011 by motti
@Tel Aviv, you could have mentioned that black Ethiopian descent Jews, Bedouin and Druze don't just serve in the military, some have become very high ranking officers.

DrMakni49

So Ishmael was the first Moslem? How come? His father Abraham was the first Jew. Local Arabs were still praying to the moon before Mohammed. You are only forbidden pig meat as Jewish people are. Unlike the Jews though, you are allowed to eat shell fish Why do you attempt to show something that is clearly not 100% true. You only believe what you want to believe and not always the facts. So you are saying that Islam was an established religion that prayed to the moon from the time of Mohammed or the time of Ishmael.

Abraham was never a Moslem, don't be so stupid. He rid himself of idols to leave his families home. Or are you saying that Islam allowed worship of idols and the moon until Mohammed? Hello?
19:53 March 27, 2011 by telaviv
Motti

Thanks. I was allways thought by my parents to love and to respect all people without looking at their race or religion,I was Panzer comandant in yom kippur war and that was one of my terribile life experience , then I was involved again in 1982 Lebanon war that time as Miluimnik,you do not come out the same person,

If some of the Swedish people which laught at my call to peace and understanding between people had had my expierience they would talk with less hate and aggressivity
21:29 March 27, 2011 by Dave N
Telaviv - Your parents were good people - but naive. Respect has to be earned and I have yet to come across a Muslim who deserves my respect. How can I respect someone who believes that apostates from Islam should be killed? Or that non-Muslims cannot be befriended? How can I respect someone who believes that women ( who are worth only half the worth of a man, of course) who step out of line should be beaten? How can I respect someone who believes that a murderer, rapist, slave-trader, robber and child-molester is a Holy Prophet and the Perfect Man? Unfortunately, to be a Muslim is to believe all of these things.

Add that to the fact that they are colonising my country at a phenomenal rate and you'll understand my lack of respect for this ghastly "religion" and its brainwashed followers.
22:09 March 27, 2011 by telaviv
Dave

thank you for your comment.

we have to jugde people of how they behave,I know also what say the Islam and all the bad things you mentioned are truth specially among the primitive and ultra religious muslems but there are among them also good and moderene people who believe and live after the values of the western world and very extremists and terrorists who you have to fight with,I learend not generalizing and judging person just after his behavior,in hospidal where I work there are very nice and moderen muslems and their families are moderen and behave like any normal family in west and there are people like you mentioned

Yes I read about the great number of immigrants to European countries ,that must be a big problem to the sociaty there,many states limite the number of the forgeins who can come over,for example Swiss, does Sweden do the same?
23:38 March 27, 2011 by jbat
I am a muslim and don´t agree with what this stupud association try to do...

Again I am a muslim and I don´t agree with what this stupid "glamshek" try to do here...

Probably this glamshek is a TROLL that tried to stir anti muslim discussion here...

He do it at many articles in this The Local website and I have read several of his "cut and paste"

statement that suddenly tried to talk about Islam while it is not the place to talk about it...most of the readers here are non muslims, so what is the point to suddenly talk about religion to non believer?

And this "bcterry" that tried to acty like he is clever but he is not (probably because of his hatred toward other people and other people's religious) since he cannot distinguih between troll or not troll users (probably this bcterry glamshek??? mabye...).. look at his special treatment toward this Troll user.. and check out his tratment toward this Troll user at other article too! :-)

To Uncle.. Like govt like citizens... so No comment uncle Yanks... :-)
00:09 March 28, 2011 by dekul
Human Should care for all human not just for one group either jew, muslim, christian, hindu,buddist...etc= Real Humanity!

Israel on Sunday, 14 December, hosted a virulently anti-Islam conference in Jerusalem, with a number of fascist-minded speakers from Israel and abroad taking part in the one-day event.The conference was addressed by notorious Islamophobes such as Daniel Pipes, Dutch Legislator Greet Wilders and right-wing Israeli lawmaker Aryeh Eldad.

German writer and Holocaust survivor Ralph Giordano has come out strongly against the planned so-called Anti-Islamization Congress -- a meeting of extreme-right European political forces -- planned for Sept. 19-20 in Cologne but extermist on local.se only critize islam!!??
02:05 March 28, 2011 by Hagrid
@truthworthy

1. For the 100th time - Freedom of speech is NOT the freedom to spread lies in order to incite hatred and violence - just like this lecturer does about Jews.

2. Don't even start bringing the "anti-zionist" argument here. It is completely irrelevant. There is nothing "anti-zionist" about saying the Jews have formed a conspiracy to rule the world, and have a ritual of killing Christian children. This is plain, unadulterated, venomous ANTISEMITISM.

3. There is a world of difference between expressing genuine fear based on ACTUAL FACTS which suggest that Muslims have brought an increase in crime rates, and fabricating ludicrous blood libels against Jews for the sole purpose of stirring hate.

4. What do you mean, "Mr Waberi is weak apologist who cant stand for his believes [sic]"? What makes you say that? The fact that he distanced himself from Sultan's blood libels? So let me get it straight - he should stand behind his beliefs, that Jews indeed created a conspiracy to rule the world, and perform ritual killings? Geez, and you don't call yourself an antisemite?... Right. And I'm not an alcoholic, I just drink between the meals. And during. And before bedtime, and when I wake up.
09:59 March 28, 2011 by Rick Methven
@Dave N

"Telaviv - Your parents were good people - but naive. Respect has to be earned and I have yet to come across a Muslim who deserves my respect."

Like telaviv I was brought up to respect all people regardless of creed or colour and through that, I have met and made friends with many people from many lands, Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu and Buddhist.

Your problem is that you start off with a racist viewpoint that anybody that is not the same as you is bad, that is why you will never see beyond your very blinkered point of view. televivs parents like mine where not naive but open and honest. If more people where like that then we would have half the problems in the world that we do.

Shalom

Peace

Asalam Uleikum
14:48 March 28, 2011 by wenddiver
I had a lot of Jewish neighbors when I lived in New York. I think these people make stuff up about the Jews, because they can't find negative true things to say about them. Most of them were very good neighbors, I had an elderly Hasidic couple that treated me more as a Grandson than a neighbor. Always worried about me, and wanted me to get safer employment.

If the Muslims would stop fighting for a few years, they would probably find that the Motzah Ball Soup are the least of the benefits of their new neighbors. I think once the killing stopped, you would find them fast friends in a couple years.
14:57 March 28, 2011 by bcterry
I was taught that any fascist ideology that perpetrates violence on innocent others, does not believe in equality, abuses children sexually, or through brainwashing that denies them their right of freedom of thought, preaches bigotry and hate, and strives to dominate over all, deserves no tolerance, and respect is an absolute non starter.

I respect any good decent person that does no harm to others, supports no such actions, and firmly speaks out against it, believes in total equality to others who do no harm, and contributes to society as a whole in a positive manner.

All others need not apply.
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