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How the far-right found a voice in tolerant Nordic countries

How the far-right found a voice in tolerant Nordic countries

Published: 28 Jul 2011 16:56 GMT+02:00
Updated: 28 Jul 2011 16:56 GMT+02:00

While his acts are beyond conventional politics, self-confessed Norwegian mass killer Anders Behring Breivik, a man proud of his Viking roots, has been influenced by the far-right ideology that has risen over the last 15 years.

Behring Breivik told Monday's closed-door court hearing that he wanted his attacks that killed 76 to send a strong signal to the left-wing Norwegian government to stop "the deconstruction of Nordic culture and the mass importing of Muslims."

"Breivik is of course alone in his extremism, in his crimes," the head of Oslo's anti-racism centre Kari Helene Partapuoli told AFP.

"But it's also interesting to see that he evolved in a certain socio-political context, that this shooting spree is not a coincidence. He hasn't come from a vacuum."

The populist right-wing Norwegian Progress Party "has been very talented at steering the public debate" including by stigmatising Muslims and foreigners, she says.

There were almost no non-Europeans communities in Nordic countries until the 1970s and 80s, but since then they have become home to hundreds of thousands who fled conflict zones such as the former Yugoslavia, Somalia or Kurdistan.

Sweden has for instance welcomed more refugees from Iraq after the 2003 US-led invasion than all the big European nations combined, according to the Swedish Migration Authority.

In Oslo, the most common first name given to babies in 2010 was Mohammed.

The proportion of people born abroad is now over 10 percent in Sweden and Norway and around eight percent in Denmark. In Oslo that rises to 27 percent

and over 80 percent in certain Swedish suburbs, according to official estimates.

Having started in Denmark at the end of the 1990s, the rise of the populist and anti-immigration right seemed to be unstoppable.

"But the feeling of xenophobia didn't increase, on the contrary it sometimes went down, it's more like a crafty political use has been made of it," said Ulf Bjereld, political scientist at Sweden's Gothenburg University.

The Norwegian Progress Party, of which Behring Breivik was a member for several years until he left because he found it too moderate, has become the second biggest party with 23 percent of the vote in the last elections.

The party's leader Siv Jensen has made "rampant Islamisation" one of her favourite bugbears.

In Denmark, a minority liberal-conservative government has since 2001 needed the support in parliament of the Danish People's Party, giving the right-wing group an ideal launchpad for its ideas.

The Swedish Democrats party (slogan: "Keep Sweden Swedish") got into parliament in September, causing a political earthquake that was repeated seven months later in Finland when the "True Finns" got 19 percent of the vote.

The Nordic far-right is now so entrenched in the political establishment that experts say the "extreme" label is no longer suitable.

"They're established, they're now part of the mainstream," Anders Hellström, a Swedish specialist in nationalist and populist movements, told AFP recently.

However, the radical fringe of the extreme right is "scattered, without real structure," said French Scandinavia expert Cyril Coulet.

"In Norway, there are people linked to social networks, small groups of skinheads who carry out attacks on foreigners, like elsewhere in Scandinavia," he said.A far-right that vaunts anti-immigration, Islamophobia and the welfare state has taken hold in Nordic countries, playing on the fears of societies that are less and less blond and blue eyed, AFP's Marc Preel writes.

While his acts are beyond conventional politics, self-confessed Norwegian mass killer Anders Behring Breivik, a man proud of his Viking roots, has been influenced by the far-right ideology that has risen over the last 15 years.

Behring Breivik told Monday's closed-door court hearing that he wanted his attacks that killed 76 to send a strong signal to the left-wing Norwegian government to stop "the deconstruction of Nordic culture and the mass importing of Muslims."

"Breivik is of course alone in his extremism, in his crimes," the head of Oslo's anti-racism centre Kari Helene Partapuoli told AFP.

"But it's also interesting to see that he evolved in a certain socio-political context, that this shooting spree is not a coincidence. He hasn't come from a vacuum."

The populist right-wing Norwegian Progress Party "has been very talented at steering the public debate" including by stigmatising Muslims and foreigners, she says.

There were almost no non-Europeans communities in Nordic countries until the 1970s and 80s, but since then they have become home to hundreds of thousands who fled conflict zones such as the former Yugoslavia, Somalia or Kurdistan.

Sweden has for instance welcomed more refugees from Iraq after the 2003 US-led invasion than all the big European nations combined, according to the Swedish Migration Authority.

In Oslo, the most common first name given to babies in 2010 was Mohammed.

The proportion of people born abroad is now over 10 percent in Sweden and Norway and around eight percent in Denmark. In Oslo that rises to 27 percent

and over 80 percent in certain Swedish suburbs, according to official estimates.

Having started in Denmark at the end of the 1990s, the rise of the populist and anti-immigration right seemed to be unstoppable.

"But the feeling of xenophobia didn't increase, on the contrary it sometimes went down, it's more like a crafty political use has been made of it," said Ulf Bjereld, political scientist at Sweden's Gothenburg University.

The Norwegian Progress Party, of which Behring Breivik was a member for several years until he left because he found it too moderate, has become the second biggest party with 23 percent of the vote in the last elections.

The party's leader Siv Jensen has made "rampant Islamisation" one of her favourite bugbears.

In Denmark, a minority liberal-conservative government has since 2001 needed the support in parliament of the Danish People's Party, giving the right-wing group an ideal launchpad for its ideas.

The Swedish Democrats party (slogan: "Keep Sweden Swedish") got into parliament in September, causing a political earthquake that was repeated seven months later in Finland when the "True Finns" got 19 percent of the vote.

The Nordic far-right is now so entrenched in the political establishment that experts say the "extreme" label is no longer suitable.

"They're established, they're now part of the mainstream," Anders Hellström, a Swedish specialist in nationalist and populist movements, told AFP recently.

However, the radical fringe of the extreme right is "scattered, without real structure," said French Scandinavia expert Cyril Coulet.

"In Norway, there are people linked to social networks, small groups of skinheads who carry out attacks on foreigners, like elsewhere in Scandinavia," he said.

AFP/The Local (news@thelocal.se)

Your comments about this article

17:33 July 28, 2011 by Kurd_007
For many years Nordic countries saw the far-right (more correctly racist) organizations as no threat to their securities. These nations not only did not stand against them but in many cases promoted them, something made mainstream conservative parties to take similar stands on issues like immigration during election campaigns. The recent tragedy in Norway orchestrated by Breivik known as the Bin Laden of the West, has proven that the fundamentalists of all religions are equally evil and have to be stopped.
17:43 July 28, 2011 by TomasBrolin
"The party's leader Siv Jensen has made "rampant Islamisation" one of his favourite bugbears."

I think you will find that Siv Jensen is a woman!
18:24 July 28, 2011 by zircon
This is becoming more transparent.
21:57 July 28, 2011 by Nemesis
Sweden once had racial hygiene laws which were only removed from the statute books in 1976. Those laws were put on the statute books in the 1930's by the Social Democrats.

Uppsala university used to have a Human Eugenics department that was fully funded by the government until 1976.

Then people wonder were the racism came from???????????
23:42 July 28, 2011 by Da Goat
The big boys club has deliberatly been importing other cultures (race is not so relevant) to divide and weaken the people, Brevik has undone their work by uniting the people again and forcing the issue to the front.

great point Nemeisis the political party is not relevant either, both left and right have the same agenda to shaft the world!

you can vote for two flavours of rapists anywhere in the world!
11:24 July 29, 2011 by Angusthefirst
@ Nemesis

Excellent points! Fully agree on both of them, this sort of stuff is the source of what you see being acted out at the mment.
11:58 July 29, 2011 by Social Hypocrisy
I wonder how many Social Democrat voters believe in a homogenous sweden with a strong national identity, where "alla är lika"?

Let me put it another way... How many SD voters are National Socialists when you scrap away the sugar coating?

Nemasis made a good point... The Social Democrats were in power for a long period from 1917 all the way up to the 90s, it was them that allowed sterilisation in the name of keeping the nordic race pure. Who put those people in power?

I belive its been shown that a large number of Sweden Democrat voters are unsatified Social Democat voters who jump ship for a more nationalist line.

So lets get something clear, too all the Social Democrats that preach "alla är lika", but deep down believe their swedish culture and values are better than everyone elses...

Your really National Socialists, eg a NAZIs and no better than the psycho they are now locking up.
12:08 July 29, 2011 by jacquelinee
Where is "Jack Ruby" when you need him?
12:10 July 29, 2011 by Social Hypocrisy
Regaurdless of what year we are living in, what your religion is or where you lie on the political scale. The unguided belief that your values and way of life are fundamentally better than anothers will lead to the same place it has always led... war!
12:30 July 29, 2011 by jacquelinee
Anders Beer ing BeSICK should just plain be lobotomized in a BIG way. Not because he is a nazi or not. And not because of his political orientation. Not because he is a blonde haired blue eyed scandinavian (or if he was black or purple for that matter) not because he is a prejudiced racist. He should be lobotomized because HE IS A COLD BLOODED MURDERER. He should have NO rights. He gave them up when he decided to murder innocent people. Bottom line. He should be naked in a dirt cellar with a pail of water and dry bread waiting until they can cut the "thought process" part of his DEFECTIVE brain out. Even that is being overly kind.
12:40 July 29, 2011 by Social Hypocrisy
@jacquelinee.

I understand that you are angry and we have every right to be so, but 2 wrongs do not make a right.

The only way we will defeat the psychos is with reason, and the LAW.
13:07 July 29, 2011 by jacquelinee
Of course....we can not have anarchy, but the laws need revamping. Anyone committing (self admitted) such a heinous crime should not be afforded the luxury of a "cushy" privileged confinement (i.e. internet, tv. music etc) as they are presented with these days. They should sit in a bare room with no contact with the outside world (a world THEY chose to attack) and stare at 4 empty walls with no windows. Maybe then they would get to think what death is like and what it feels like to have life taken away from THEM as they chose to take it away from others.
14:12 July 29, 2011 by Streja
jacqueline, look at the rate of reoffenders in Norway compared to the UK: 20% in Norway and 50% in the UK.

Now this guy will probably spend the rest of his life in prison as he is a danger to society.

Social Hypocrisy, your facts are wrong about S governing in Sweden for that long until the 90's.
17:53 July 29, 2011 by Kurd_007
we live in a globalised world, the time of homogenous state with a single unified culture has long gone! never the less in the US, multiculturalism has not prevented a strong national american identity. a bunch of skin heads in Europe, cannot reverse the curse of history. so they should adopt to the new world or move to another planet.
18:24 July 29, 2011 by MarshaLynn
I wish they would not use the term "far right" to describe a skinhead mentality. In the USA, right = conservative views = traditional belief system. People often make the mistake of tying skinheads to the "far right" when actually skinheads are more like the Nazis, and the Nazi system was certainly not conservative and democratic. Left = socialist/communist/marxist = generally believes in big government which redistributes wealth and thereby restricts individual liberties. Skinheads don't like big govt. but they, like the Nazis, do believe in a pure race of Caucasians and hatred of Jews. That's an unhealthy view of the world. Let's just describe them for what they are and forget the label of left or right, since it often unfairly taints one side or the other by associating them with fringe groups they have no association with.

This guy in Norway is sick in the head. He was probably sick before he espoused himself to skinhead beliefs.

Posts on here that tie mainstream peace-loving Christians to skinheads are woefully ignorant. People should be more careful about lumping various groups in with one another. First, it is unfair and inaccurate, and second, it is dangerous to hate monger in that manner. It is irreponsible and ignorant to tie evangelical/fundamentalist Christians to hate groups like Islamic jihadists or radical skinheads. You can find anecdotal cases of individuals within any group to use as examples to smear that group, but that is neither honest nor accurate for the group as a whole.
20:19 July 29, 2011 by Scambaiter
Let's get a few facts straight...

There are only 164,000 Muslims living in Norway (of all nationalities), about 3.4% of the population, so talk of an Islamization of Norway is BS.

The two largest immigrant groups in Norway are Poles and the Swedes, so using the "born-abroad " statistic is misleading. My oldest son is half British and half Swedish, was born on Gotland, yet he is also counted in the immigrant statistics in Sweden.

The name Mohammed was also the most common name in the UK for new-born babies in 2010, as there are several spelling variants that are counted seperately. What does that prove?...only that Muslims have a much narrower range of names to choose from. Nearly every second Muslim male is given Mohammed as either a first or second name.

Every single mass murderer, mass rapist and serial killer in Swedish and Norwegian history has had a Scandinavian heritage, either by ethnicity, birth or upbringing. There is not a single Muslim among them.

It's a myth to claim that "The biggest threat to the security of EU citizens is Muslim terrorism". In the EU's Terrorism Situation and Trend Report (2010), it states that in 2009 there were "294 failed, foiled, or successfully executed attacks" in six European countries. This was down almost one-third from the total in 2008 and down by almost one-half from the total in 2007. How many of these attacks were carried out by Muslims? Just one.

Above all, the recent statement on the SD website namely..."Det har under dagen uppmärksammats att en lokal företrädare för partiet har skrivit om massmorden i Norge på sin blogg. Av texten kan det tolkas som att det är massinvandringspolitiken och skapandet av det mångkulturella samhället som ligger bakom att massmorden kunnat ske. SD delar inte den analysen och tar kraftfullt avstånd från alla försök att använda massmorden i den politiska debatten."

...is a lie. Erik Hellsborn was merely articulating what the vast majority of these xenophobes and bigots actually think.

No debate on immigration policy with child killers, mass murderers or their sympathizers!!!
20:59 July 29, 2011 by YHPK
"While his acts are beyond conventional politics, self-confessed Norwegian mass killer Anders Behring Breivik, a man proud of his Viking roots, has been influenced by the far-right ideology that has risen over the last 15 years."

Kissing 70+ kids is an 'act beyond conventional politics' now is it ? are you kidding me?

not terrorism? Murder? that's just beyond unacceptable!

would such softened language be used if he was named Mohammed? I think not
09:54 July 30, 2011 by skatty
I think there are some points, which may be of interest, when we talk about the "tolerant Nordic countries".

There are some historical differences between western European countries; as it has mentioned, non-European communities didn't exist in Nordic countries until 70s and 80s, and the fact is that Nordic countries didn't have direct connection with developing countries (colonialism).

You see immigration in Europe has a kind of structure, mostly base on the immigration of the people from the previous colonies of the west Europe to the main European countries, Britain, France, and most of Western Europe is in this category. There are cultural, linguistic, economical connections between the people from previous colonies and the main countries, even their racism, discrimination and hate of each others has a special historical character. Then there is another category like Germany and German speaking countries, where have a long time experience of importing non-European as guest-worker after WWII (like Turks). Scandinavian countries also mostly used guest-workers with some differences. For example in the case of Sweden, the workers mostly were from Europe; however, in Norway, the Pakistanis have lived and worked for much longer time.

In general, Scandinavian societies have been much less (actually hardly) of a mix society, and to speak about tolerance in such societies may not be correct. Tolerance can be evaluated in a mixed society, not a homogenous one. Now that many Scandinavian countries are no longer homogenous, you can evaluate tolerance and you see that Scandinavian actually don't have tolerance to non-European communities. There are many ways to explain the reason, but no place to write it in here.
11:34 July 30, 2011 by Streja
Scambaiter, I don't believe that you are right about your son being counted among immigrants. I am half/half myself and believe that what you say was true in the 80's but not anymore. He may be counted in a different category though.

MarshaLynn, you are wrong. The Nazis sent socialists and communists to the concentration camps and killed loads. The German socialists who were told to leave Spain after having fought for the democratically elected government in the Spanish Civil War had only death to come back to as they were targetted directly by the Nazis.
11:58 July 30, 2011 by guliver
Sterja

Yes it is true that the Nazis murded socialist and communistsin concentration camps,they killed also more than 20 millions of Russians and other huge number innocent civilians all over Europe, but they killed 6 millions Jews,the Jews had no choise but to die they could not say we are not communists , they could not say we want to convert because it did not helped them , the Jews were considered the Evil of the world and the only solution for them was the final solution: babies,children old person ,every one who was a Jew was destinated to be killed,by the way the Jipsies had the same sort of the Jews the Nazies killed about 3 millions Jipsies
12:11 July 30, 2011 by Streja
guliver, I am very aware of that. Why did you feel the need to lecture me on something that is common knowledge? I never said they didn't kill Jews!
13:18 July 30, 2011 by guliver
Streja

Sorry ,I maybe did not get it well from your answer to Marshalynn,any way you are right about the hatness of the Nazies to the left parties and communists.
03:55 July 31, 2011 by Icarusty
Ignorance is bliss, I suppose

You only have to glance at these forums to see where the racism stems from. If moderate "normal" people can spout such incendiary "go home" rubbish, then what do you think the white supremacists are thinking???
12:10 July 31, 2011 by jacquelinee
Why does the news continue to plaster this sick meglamaniacs picture? That is what he just Loves. Black out his smug face and do not use his name and just refer to him as that sick, twisted son of a B. who ruthlessly murdered innocent citizens.

Animals like him love to get themselves noticed or "famous" Don't give that sick F. the satisfaction.
15:37 July 31, 2011 by Jes
The adjective to examine is " tolerant" . How and when was it confrmed that Nordic countries are tolerant ?

Maybe Nordic counties have never had to deal with people from other cultures?

TL remarks that there were almost no non-europeans in Nordic countries before the 70s . Is it possible to tolerate something that you are not exposed to ?

Just because Muhammed is the most used name in Oslo does not prove tolerance ; it proves that muslims still prefer original muslim/ arabic names for their kids while other call theirs anything . The same is the case in USA , Canada and UK .

While a Pakistan muslim who lives in UK names his son Muhamed and his daughter Amina , Beckam will name his , Brooklyn , or Rockie , instead of John or Mary .
08:09 August 1, 2011 by ThomasJThunberg
Do you really believe that one man did all that? I do not. I suppose, due to all the American movies everyone has been watching the thought never crossed anyones mind.
11:12 August 1, 2011 by Streja
Belmar, you are incorrect. Check what happened in the 70's and also during the war. Perhaps check as well the alliance between S and another party which is now called Centern.

I live in Sweden and I am Swedish. Currently I live in Stockholm. I was born in the decade when S lost the elections, no, not in the 90's by the way.
13:30 August 1, 2011 by matona1
real viking dont kill his people ,you the most useless and sensless nowaygian i have ever meet,killing your own people for revenge or what? their will be no single good reason for killing inocent people.

your soul belong to devil
15:52 August 1, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
@Streja Please, if you are a Swede, at least you should know the history of your party.

The following is what happened during the WWII:

1932 After a landslide victory Per Albin Hansson forms a government.During the major reforms are introduced, including unemployment benefits, improved retirement pensions, holidays, dental care, public works to combat unemployment.

1939 The second World War, broad national government. The Social Democrats prepare a peace programme of their own aimed at full employment, just redistribution and improved standard of living.

1946 Per Albin Hansson dies and is succeeded by Tage Erlander as Prime Minister and party leader.

This is what happened after 1976;

1976 The Social Democrats lose the election after 44 years of continuous government and a non-socialist coalition is formed, led by Torbjörn Fälldin from the Center party. During the following six years the coalition collapsed no fewer than three times.

1980 The referendum on nuclear power. The alternative of a long-term phasing out of the industry proposed by Social Democrats and Liberals wins a simple majority of the votes.

1982 Social Democrats win the election, and Olof Palme forms the new government.

The struggle with economic crisis and unemployment is the most important task for the government. Collective wage earners' investment funds are introduced after a hard political struggle, only to be dismantled in 1991.

In 1991 The Social Democrats lose the election and a government consisting of four nonsocialist parties is formed, led by Carl Bildt from the Moderate party.

1994 The Social Democrats win the election. More jobs and reconstruction of government finances are given the highest priority.

And during the war, Streja, but not Estrella,

1939 The second World War, broad national government. The Social Democrats prepare a peace programme of their own aimed at full employment, just redistribution and improved standard of living.

1946 Per Albin Hansson dies and is succeeded by Tage Erlander as Prime Minister and party leader.

Got it? or shall I give you a lecture one more time. You choose.
17:40 August 1, 2011 by Streja
Why have you pasted things twice in your post?

You were wrong about S being in power up until 1990. By the way, the elections were in 1991.

MY party? I am not a member of S.
20:39 August 1, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
I pasted things twice in my post because I became a Streja nincompoop. So simple. One can be stupid once in a while, but not all the time.

You do not even know how to read correctly, so here I go again:

In 1991 The Social Democrats lose the election and a government consisting of four nonsocialist parties is formed, led by Carl Bildt from the Moderate party.

The above paragraph, Mrs. Ninky, is quite clear. The S where in power up until 1990. It is a well known fact that the first year of a government and the last one, do not count. Everybody is preparing what to do.

And, who cares about your party? For my part, you can be a follower of Gudrun Shyman or of Gloria Steinem. It is the same. Personally, with intellects such as yours, I would not recommend you to any of the existing political parties; no even to the Swedish Democrats.
20:56 August 1, 2011 by Streja
Yes, but in the previous post you said it was until 1990. You failed to mention the 70's and the samlingsregering during the war. That's wrong.

The last year doesn't count? LOL! Nice try.

I don't need you to recommend me anywhere.
21:17 August 1, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
@Streja. Go and fly a kite.
22:49 August 1, 2011 by Streja
One thing you said was really funny. The last and the first year don't count.

That would not have left much time for any government before 1994 in Sweden. I'll let you figure it out yourself.
11:12 August 2, 2011 by jacquelinee
@ all

I repeat-

Why does the news continue to plaster this sick meglamaniacs picture? That is what he just Loves. Black out his smug face and do not use his name and just refer to him as that sick, twisted son of a B. who ruthlessly murdered innocent citizens.

Animals like him love to get themselves noticed or "famous" Don't give that sick F. the satisfaction.
05:15 August 3, 2011 by ericrufinosiah
Natives Swedish , and the other Vikings please don't be that naive and kept

demonising and condenming the truthful ,patriotic stand taken by Jimmy Akesson

and his Sweden Democrat.Why must he be demonised and condenmed.?Why.?
08:02 August 3, 2011 by gh2008
why? why? wh....?

echo you!...is that what you asking?

right?
11:22 August 3, 2011 by motti
Local, twice you have dropped my posts on this site. At no time did they contain insulting, abusive or foul language. In fact quite the opposite. I put forward thoughts and included a little philosophical comments from an ancient sage. So what is the problem? Does one need to be insulting or write malicious and dishonest or untruthful statements now in order for it be posted?
13:39 August 3, 2011 by this_aint_sparta
I can bet TL has its own agenda and a mind set, I called this guy a terrorist in my view instead of mass murderer and my post is removed, why o why on earth why? shame on bigots
19:01 August 3, 2011 by conboy
I note our doughty Norwegian "Europa Patriot" is now crying out for Japanese psychiatric counselling!!! what a grand little world we live in. The Swedish Political and policing classes are notable as usual with their silence thank god the Norwegians are going point on the Breivik investigation. If a white Swede had done it here the coppers would be looking for a shimmery image of a kurd or some other non-existent assailant.
23:21 August 4, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
@motti and @this_aint_sparta.

Welcome to the club. TL is very funny. They have certain words in their server that are taboo, but if you write bs, f... or whatever or you invent a word that sounds like the f. word you want to write. TL is helpless.

But, TL proves one more time what freedom of speech means in Sweden. Everything has to be politally correct, otherwise, you are kaput.
11:53 August 5, 2011 by conboy
Define political correctness sometime I have yet to hear a universally agreed interpretation of the word. Among so called "new - conservatives" or "neo-conservatives" it would appear to assume some kind of universal normative conspiracy concieved of by defeatist Euro-weenies and East coast liberal Americans on the other hand as a old style Labour party voter (note not member) and an increasingly cranky one at that; I regard the increasingly ludicrous consensus between high finance, right wing media ownership and global exploitation of workers and consumers everywhere as an obvious example of traditional tory delusion all wrapped up in a thin veneer of "choice in the marketplace". The Local aint no bastion of left wing thinking in all fairness rather more an advocate of the latter I would argue.
15:41 August 5, 2011 by Streja
conboy, spot on. It is now pc to say that the left is pc.
16:16 August 5, 2011 by tgolan
How the far-right found a voice in tolerant Nordic countries, it is simple, as an immigrant and son of a refugee, I feel free to tell the truth, the reason that intolerance has grown is that the left used immigrants as hostages for forcing a change in sociality that the population doesn't want, people like my mother integrated into society and didn't demand that everyone else change, now everyone must change to accommodate the new immigrants and the majority resent this violation of their cultural identity, that is normal, countries have assimilated immigrants for a thousand years but many of the new immigrants do not want to be assimilated . that is the problem culture not race or religion. The new immigrants MUST accept the local culture and norms.
16:28 August 5, 2011 by Frobobbles
Funny that the article does not mention that Breivik was part of the anti-jihadist movement, which is a sionist movement that has it's center in USA.
16:45 August 5, 2011 by conboy
Tut Tut are you actually suggesting Frobobbles that the US has been a source of both domestic US and international terrorism?

You know what there just might be something in that !!!
21:49 August 5, 2011 by bcterry
"Funny that the article does not mention that Breivik was part of the anti-jihadist movement, which is a sionist movement that has it's center in USA. "

LOL, A "sionist" movement?

Who on the hell except muslims are not anti-jihadist?
12:05 August 6, 2011 by guliver
Frobobbles

I don't know what does anti -Jihad movment mean.

The Zionistic movment was established in 1889 in the first Zionistic organisation in Basel by a joung Austrian Jewish lawyer called:Theodor Herzl,the goal was the building of a Jewish state in Palestine and is proceeded by Balfur Declaration ,purching aavaible land which were bought from their owner and ending by the UN vote from 29/11/47 on the establishment of Israel .

We handel the Jihad and Hamas and Hizbala terrorists trough agents of the Mossad abroad and our security forces inland,

we certainly do not need or use crazy people like the neo nazi Breivik
17:54 August 6, 2011 by AlexCN4
i don't readed all comments, but this man is real crazy and punishment is very small...for how many people killed this motheidiot, worth to live all his life in jail or death forever. I'm not from Scandinavia, i'm from Romania, but i was shocked with what hapenned in Norway. I never don't believe that in Scandinavia the most silence part from Europe to have so terror.
21:05 August 7, 2011 by guliver
Cheguevara

Religion is not a bad thing,

using the God's name to do evil things to other people -believers or not believers and it is not important their faith-is very very bad and not acceptable!

I am against any use of the religion -Muslem ,Christian or Jewish to kill or to hit other people-who is doing it is a criminal for me and must finish in jail.

On the same time a person who believe in God and does not bother other people has to be respected and not bothered by the others.

This way of thinking is called tollerance
12:05 August 10, 2011 by Incognito007
I wonder why they don't call him and his ideas TERRORIST but using much softer terms. He killed around 100 kids and he's a sick person, and a guy who exploded himself killing no one was called int'l terrorist... Where is hypocrisy comes from?

Breivik is a TERRORIST as well as his ideas and organizations and parties he represents! He is Maison- Satanist who made a few plastic surgeries to look less Jewish and more European.

Now he became a celebrity a hero for his fans and got plenty of publicity and time to write his new books to promote his Islamophobic ideas.
22:37 August 10, 2011 by tonylaz
CONBOY August 5 , 11:53

Political Correctness is the failure to speak or recognize the obvious or to act thereon because someone may become uncomfortable or have his feelings hurt or, especially to a politician, he may lose a vote. Of course PC is cowardice or deceit.
07:16 August 11, 2011 by bells on the knight
It has been deliberated and acknowledged that breivik is what he is but what I fail to see is a proper discussion of the root cause WHY it happened and most likely will happen again.

"keep your friends close but keep your enemies even closer" as the old saying goes.
21:02 August 11, 2011 by astra2thor6
Scandinavians are (outwardly) politically correct and never wish to be considered racist, but they are xenophobic!
10:15 August 12, 2011 by motti
incognito007. how does a Jew look please? I look forward to your answer, please do give a full description. thank you
11:24 August 12, 2011 by cogito
@ Tonylaz #52.

Yes. PC is also a powerful form of censorship, It is a method used by social tyrants and politicians to control and dictate public speech and thought Some left-wingers are so dumb that they think PC a positive term.

See"Newspeak" (George Orwell's 1984 novel about totalitarian speech)

Or see // ourcivilisation dot com slash pc.htm
15:41 August 12, 2011 by guliver
Icognito007

The most famous criminal who wrote and spoke about how Jews look like was Adolph Hitler,

It looks like that you share with him some common ideas about Jews.
18:02 August 12, 2011 by bells on the knight
there must be something fundamentally wrong since extreme right movements are on the rise and breivik cloning is on the rise but everyone seems to say - there is nothing wrong.

i know politicians look after their own rear ends to the highest degree but they should, and only they, take full responsibility for what happens, not blame it on someone and exclaim their deep regret.
09:32 August 14, 2011 by Lavaux
In the American context, the Nordic far-right compares favorably with Southern wing of the Democrat party. That's right: In America, Breivik would have been a Dixiecrat. Check out the term on Wikipedia. While you're reading the article, replace "federal government" with "EU", "blacks" with "immigrants", and "southern way of life" with "Nordic way of life". See the ideological similarities?

Of course, this comparison implies that politically, the Nordic countries have evolved more slowly than the U.S. This implication is sound. While America undergoes rapid cycles of ascendant socialism (FDR, Truman, LBJ, Carter, Obama) offset by ascendant classical liberalism (Reagan, Gingrich, the Tea Party) and centrism (Eisenhauer, JFK, Nixon, Ford, Clinton, Bush Senior & Junior), the Social Democrats and their left wing allies have ruled Sweden for the majority of the past 80 years.

Socialism is Sweden's backbone but multiculturalism is not. Hence, the Nordic far-right is a reaction to multiculturalism and the EU and the threats they pose to the Nordic welfare state and the Nordic way of life. In contrast, America's far-right opposes socialism itself, which has been realized in the rapid expansion and centralization of political power in the federal government at the expense of the 50 states, the thousands of local governments, and every individual citizen.

In view of the foregoing facts, those who equate the Nordic far-right with the American far-right or the Tea Party movement display their pathetic ignorance and ill-will.
15:51 August 18, 2011 by Grindsprint
@ Lavaux WHAT!!? Reagan and the tea party classical liberal?? was that a joke? they are both so far from it it´s not even funny! During the reagan years the govt. grew. He shifted the priorities, but over all it was bigger when he left. He just shrunk the parts of the public beurocracy that is beneficial for the general public.
03:15 August 28, 2011 by PonceDeLeon
Ditto! Jes #25
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