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Two die as train hits car

Published: 05 Sep 2011 06:21 GMT+02:00
Updated: 05 Sep 2011 06:21 GMT+02:00

The Volvo they were travelling in was was completely demolished, according to police and the rail operator.

Police describe the dead as young people, although they have not been formally identified and the bodies have been taken to Uppsala for forensic examination, according to Sven Matzols, duty police officer in Dalarna.

In order to establish the identity of the dead, the police will first trace the owner of the car, which is registered to a person in Dalarna. Police suspect no offense in connection with the incident and have not questioned the driver.

"That is done at a later stage," Matzols said.

The fatal accident occurred at an unguarded railway crossing in the southern outskirts of Horndal, between Avesta and Sandviken, according to Håkan Jarl, traffic manager at Tågkompaniet, the company that manages traffic on the line.

The maximum speed at that junction is either 110 or 120 kilometers an hour, and Earl says that the train was at "full speed" at the time of the accident.

The driver, a woman in her 50s, is reported to feel okay under the circumstances. She has received help from a counsellor and will also later meet a doctor, according to Jarl.

TT/The Local/pvs (news@thelocal.se)

Your comments about this article

08:24 September 5, 2011 by karex
I don't get it, if they have to trace the identity of the deceased through the owner of the car, it sounds like the two young people were alone in the vehicle. But then the article talks about the driver being a 50-tyear-old woman. Very confusing, were the yong people alone or was the woman in the car with them and survived? If so, why doesn't the police just ask the driver for the names of the victims?
09:06 September 5, 2011 by Michele
I read it as the two young people that died were in the car and the woman driver was the train operator. Horrible accident. :(
09:50 September 5, 2011 by JulieLou40
Yes Michele, I read it that way too.....
10:21 September 5, 2011 by dolphin, the
@ Karex

The last paragraph could have mentioned the driver to be '' the train's driver''.

It is obvious that no one has survived the crash as it was mentioned that the crash has completely demolished the Volvo.

What I found very surprising is why the crossing has no gate for such a high speed intersection.
10:31 September 5, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
@Michele # 3 and @julieLou40 # 4

Ladies, ladies. Please do not start making comments a la Streja.

A "driver", automobilist or vehiclist is a person who drives his own car.

A train is driven by a Locomotive Engineer; also called a Railroad Engineer, or Motorman. One who drives an electrically powered streetcar, locomotive, or subway train.

Do not translate from the Swedish word "lokförare", that is, if you understand Swedish. The word, translated into English, means "locomotive drivers", but here we are dealing and wealing in English, or not?

Welcome!
10:49 September 5, 2011 by hackie
@J.L. Belmar,

Stop proving that you know everything. Why not go and study Linguistic in the University? What I expect you to do is to observe a minute silence for the death and wish their family members well. Two people just died and you are here analyzing something that is not important.

May their souls rest in peace.
16:12 September 5, 2011 by Micardo
English not American English

Offence
16:41 September 5, 2011 by J. L. Belmar
10:49 September 5, 2011 by hackie

@J.L. Belmar,

I am not proving that I know everything, but you still do not know 50% of the knowledge I have forgotten.

What I was trying to do, was something for other people not to get confused with the words "driver" and "motorman".

Please read in between lines so you can comment just a little bit better.

And please, do not report this comment like an "abuse", because you got it coming. Dig it?
07:50 September 6, 2011 by karex
Thank you everyone for sorting out the confusion. J.L. Belmar is correct and I was confused because of the term. The word "driver" automatically places the person inside the car in my mind. I would have expected the term "engineer" (for those older trains) or as this was not the case, "operator" instead.
22:56 September 6, 2011 by old git
your linguistic arguments are pathetic in the circumstances and mostly wrong as far as English terminology is concerned, especially lesson giver Belmar who is giving American English more technical terms and not general English terms for train/tram drivers . (but where the hell he got automobilist and vehiclist!!! from as English or American English terms is anybody's guess)

Driver is the most widely used and understood common term in most of the English speaking countries ( i.e. counting the USA as one country) for a person male or female who is on board and controls a wheeled vehicle, be it car, or automobile if you wish, bus, train, tram etc.
22:38 September 9, 2011 by hackie
@J.L. Belmar, just listen to yourself. You just vomited a trash and you call it knowledge? What I am proving to you is that your comment is of no use in this context. You are supposed to at least feel sober that some people just died. Do you have any human feeling at all?

@old git, please help me ask him again.
17:58 September 16, 2011 by james_g
Yes, train driver, engine driver, car driver, tram driver - they're all drivers! Assuming we are talking English here...
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