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Gun violence 'most common' in Malmö

Gun violence 'most common' in Malmö

Published: 02 Feb 2012 11:46 GMT+01:00
Updated: 02 Feb 2012 11:46 GMT+01:00

Guns are also twice as common in Malmö in comparison to Gothenburg for similar crimes, according to statistics from Sweden's National Council on Crime Prevention (Brottsförebyggande rådet – Brå), the Svenska Dagbladet (SvD) newspaper reported.

The organization's figures show that in 2011, firearms were used in 13 cases per 100,000 residents in Malmö, compared with four in Stockholm and six in Gothenburg.

The nationwide figure is two cases per 100,000 residents.

In addition, reported violent crimes involving firearms have more than doubled in Malmö in the last five years – the largest increase in the country.

Meanwhile, reported gun crimes have dropped by six percent in Stockholm over the same period, while in Gothenburg they've increased by about 30 percent.

Deputy police commissioner Hans Nordin told SvD that police are hard at work hunting for the perpetrators behind a spate of recent shootings, the latest of which claimed the life of a 48-year-old man on Tuesday night.

“We've deployed all the power and resources the Swedish police have. We've got what we asked for and are working hard on all these recent murders,” he told the paper.

So far around 200 officers are involved in the investigations into six murders which have taken place in Malmö since August 2011.

One of the main challenges, however, is an unwillingness of members of the pubilc to come to police and testify about crimes they may have witnessed.

“If people don't tell us what they know, they have to accept that there are a group of people who can remain above the law,” Börje Sjöholm of the Skåne County police told the Sydsvenskan newspaper.

The recent wave of gun violence in Malmö has even prompted Sweden's YMCA scouting organziation to move its annual meeting from the city to nearby Ystad.

The gathering of roughly 100 scouts aged 15- to 25-years-old was supposed to be held at the Kroksbäck school in Malmö, but the deadly violence in the city made organizers reconsider their pans.

“There's a general concern, a feeling that we didn't want to be there. The area feels unpleasant. Ther'e a feeling of insecurity,” scouting official Lucas Lennartsson told the local Skånska Dagbladet newspaper.

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Your comments about this article

14:04 February 2, 2012 by RobinHood
First the Jews got out and now the once proud city of Malmö is unfit for scouts. The tombs in St Peter's Churchyard must be vibrating to the gyrations of the ancient city fathers. All their fine work swept away in a couple of decades, in the name of .... well, you know.

It would be really nice if the usual defenders of ...... well you know, would say a few words here about how unrestricted ....... well you know, is in fact a great benefit to Sweden, rather than a cayalyst for record levels of robbery, violence, gun crime, rape and fear. They must all be on holiday.
14:25 February 2, 2012 by Larry Thrash
@Robinhood. You must learn that "common sense" and "civilized reason" has no place in today's Western world. It's all been replaced by ..... well you know.
14:37 February 2, 2012 by StockholmSam
The problem is not immigration.

The problem is integration.

Once Sweden learns how to integrate the immigrants that come so that they gain some economic power within the law (rather than trying to gain economic power outside the law) then we will have a powerful human resource on which to build. If we don't do that, disaster is inevitable.
14:41 February 2, 2012 by bourgeoisieboheme
Like being back home in America... gun violence, ghettos filled with jobless people who kill each other like rats, watching the tireless hours my ancestors put into making a great country be eroded over night by a part of the population who has no respect for laws much less their fellow man.

Is this where Sweden wants to head? I doubt this is the Sweden you wants your kids to grow up in. When will the native Swedes say enough is enough? When will you take your country back? My country is lost... you still have a chance however.
14:50 February 2, 2012 by Chickybee
Malmo is becoming the new Balkan or Muslim city.

Just like the life they left behind - they're turning Malmo into the hellholes they wanted to 'flee from'.

Swedes are the only losers.

Question is will anywhere be safe now?
15:30 February 2, 2012 by mafketis
Integration is a two way street.

1. The immigrants need to want to integrate

2. There needs to be a place for them in society when they do

The indigenous Swedes may be partly to blame in that they seem to like the idea of integrated immigrants more than the reality, but when the immigrants see no need for change and adaptation and giving up some of their past in exchange for a better tomorrow then it's not going to work.
15:35 February 2, 2012 by Achilles7
@ StockholmSam - Absolute hogwash. It's exactly this type of liberal rubbish which is why countries like Sweden are in the ghastly states they are in today. You don't go and shoot somebody in the head as a result of the country you have chosen to move to 'not integrating' you into their society. What a load of tosh. It's not up to Sweden to integrate these immigrants into their society; it's up to the immigrants to integrate themselves into Sweden. When is Sweden going to stop blaming itself for all these problems and realise that the problem is the immigrants themselves.
15:38 February 2, 2012 by godnatt
@ Stockholm Ham

This is integration.

This is the immigrants integrating their violent, lawless, sociopathic culture with ours.

Enjoy the results.
16:02 February 2, 2012 by Migga
@ StockholmSam

Sure there is a problem with integration.

But when Sweden, a population of 9 million, recive 100 000+ immigrants each year it also becomes a problem. The fact that Sweden recives the most quota refugees in Europe is also a problem.

That means that there is a problem with immigrations aswell.
16:33 February 2, 2012 by Terri85
Wow Sweden is so generous. nowhere in the world I have seen such generous conditions for immigration. You guys accept immigrants give them separate flats plus money to live. Of course they will come and sit on the nations neck and integrate their values. Lately France has restricted their laws regarding immigration and Belgium as well. Guess where the immigrants will go for the first place now?
17:05 February 2, 2012 by TheWatchman
@ StolkholmSam

No, the problem is not integration. There was none of this violence crap from the Jews. When my grandparents came to Canada, do you think they were wanted? Hell no. But they contributed to this country, and the people around began to respect our family. Jews and Germans getting along right after WWII, yeah, pretty cool huh? All it takes is kindness, respect of the local culture and to act how you wish to be treated and you will fit in just fine. These people have none of that. They come to Sweden with the intention of REPLACING Sweden's culture. They have no intention of integrating into Swedish culture. Muslims are the only immigrants who want to replace, not integrate. The problem lies with the immigrants, not with Swedes not being accepting enough.

If I went to Sweden right now, I'd be accepted because I'd learn Swedish, and act respectfully and learn Swedish customs. Don't blame Swedish people, who are the victims of this.
17:38 February 2, 2012 by nar klockan klamtar
Malmo is in the process of becoming a no go area, a seperate enclave no longer part of Sweden.
18:18 February 2, 2012 by Terri85

You are right. I know a lot of families(mostly from Russian and former USSR countries) who came to Sweden to find a better life and are perfectly integrated. they work they study, their children speak Swedish better then their mother language. Everyone are happy. they are not thought of as foreigners. If you come to a foreign country be so kind and respect it, its laws, culture and traditions otherwise go back or stay where you are.
18:32 February 2, 2012 by Reason abd Realism
@ The Watchman

The story of your gandparents integrating is a good example of successful integration, but the situation in Malmö is mainly crime related to poverty. Jewish migrants have generally been educated and therefore able to obtain gainful employment in places they have migrated to in the West.

In contrast to this, crime rates have often been high among poor and less educated immigrant groups that are not always Muslim, such as the Irish in Boston for example in the early 1900's, and in many north American Italian communities (little Italy's) where the Mafia set up shop.

People are not shot in Malmö because they failed to show up at the Mosque for prayer service (which would be the most drastic example of 'replacing' culture), they are shot because they are probably drug criminals themselves, and or they are tragically unfortunate enough to live in a crime rich area that has 50% unemployment among its youth.

I am NOT one to absolve the criminals of responsibility. I utterly hate murderers and would not object to the death penalty for them. They are responsible for their acts.

But I also agreewith StockholmSam that a lack of integration is a part of the problem, and for this I hold the Swedish government responsible for not matching the number of immigrants to the number of jobs that an area can offer, at the various skill levels that the different immigrants show up with.

There appears to have been no effort to do this, and looking at the unemployment rates among youth in Malmö now, even at a time when the Swedish economy is supposedly doing well, one must conclude that this missmatch has been the equivalent of a belly flop into an empty swimming pool.

To get the immediate crisis under control I am in favour of all forms of wiretapping, surveillance, random metal detector tests in bars, far better laws to help the police do their work and enforce convictions, far better border controls and weapons searches there, frisking people who do not pay their subway fares, deploying the army, and for example finding ways to obtain information about criminals from informants that is sufficiently anonymous that people are unafraid to provide that information (they are too afraid to do this now, according to one article).

In the longer term I agree with Stockholm Sam that economic empowerment is the way out. And the challenge for the local and national governments is to find a way to establish new businesses through corporate tax incentives perhaps (new beer breweries? medical supplies? food factories?) so that newly arrived unemployed people that may not be university educated have a choice between showing up for work rather than for their next gang meeting.
18:35 February 2, 2012 by Rod Munch
I think that we need to do a better job of specifying exactly which group of immigrants that we are referring to in our comments. There are plenty of Far East Asian, SE Asian, Canadian, Australian, American, British, etc. immigrants in Sweden who are well-integrated, commit no crimes and are having a positive impact on the country.
18:50 February 2, 2012 by The Watcher
You don't know what are you talking about. The first rule to be accepted by swedes is to be blond with blue eyes, you ALL know that. But even if u have these "qualities" , if u don't speak a perfect swedish u are treated as a "second-hand" citizen. I spoke with imigrants from U.S. , Europe , Australia and all said the same thing.

Politician are to blame because they encourage the immigrants to come in a country where the majority of the population is racist and xenophobic.
18:52 February 2, 2012 by Token-not-found
@"Reason and realism"

Your nick name is the opposite of what your post contains.

Let me get this straight : you want to create a totalitarian state and reverse hundreds of years of swedish civilization just so you can pacify the criminal immigrants?


Here's a thought : just send em home, or at least don't allow any more in- problem fix.

Sweden seemed to be alright before, what's exactly wrong with a homogenous Sweden again?
18:53 February 2, 2012 by Vill
@Rod Munch

The Swedish media and government can't specify which group of immigrants because that peaceful group will begin bombing places and cutting people's heads off.
19:44 February 2, 2012 by StockholmSam
It is a two-way street, people. In order for immigrants to be successful in Sweden, yes, they must jump through a few hoops to show their willingness to integrate. Usually this begins with SFI.

However, I have lived here long enough to know that thousands upon thousands of immigrants who have spent years here learning the language and culture are no better off than when they started because of the structure of Swedish society regarding immigrants. They are placed in enclaves such as Rosengård and Rinkeby and are refused job opportunities for which they are eminently qualified. For many of them, their only chance is to join a gang and take the wealth they cannot create productively.

Many of you may know the story of the Somali immigrants in the United States. A few years back, they were compared with the same batch of Somali immigrants in Sweden. The results were shocking. In Sweden, these immigrants were in poverty and heavily involved in gang-related crimes. In America, most of them were prosperous, well-integrated and happy. This shoots holes into the theory that such immigrants refuse to let go of the culture they escaped when they emigrated. The difference was that in America, the Somalis were not placed all in the same neighborhood and they were not given massive handouts by the government to sit on their butts all year long. They were given jobs. They were asked to integrate and in return, doors were held open for them. Now they are seen as productive members of a vibrant community.

Part of the problem is the immigrants, but the problem can be solved by changing Swedes' attitudes toward them. Face it, they are here to stay. Now that Sweden has accepted them, Sweden cannot simply send them back. All you people saying that need to just shut the f* up because it is a waste of breath to even state that. The ONLY option is to help create opportunities for them. That is the only path available to us now. Deal with it.
20:20 February 2, 2012 by Vill
@Reason abd Realism

Soooooooo....you want to institute a Police State? This is classic liberal thinking. Bring in a bunch of poor, uneducated people who will eventually become citizens so they can vote for those same liberals to keep them in power and further their political agenda. Then when the immigrants' violence inevitably escalates the liberals call on a police state so they can infringe upon the rights of the citizens while quashing all opposition. Government is all about control. That is what they are trying to get and that is exactly what they are getting.
21:10 February 2, 2012 by lapua338
The brutal truth is that many immigrants do not want to integrate into wider Swedish society. They have many generous benefits available to them provided by the tax payer.

For example, Scania in Oskarshamn laid numerous people off and guess what? Immigrants have now been placed in jobs when there was "no jobs available" for Swedes!

What this country needs is less of the liberal politics and less immigration from non-EU countries. People need to open their eyes and stop living in their comfortable "bubbles".
23:04 February 2, 2012 by Reason abd Realism
@ Vill


@Token-not-found (an appropriate nickname, given the content of YOUR post)

Like it or not, you cannot ship out all the immigrants.

My paragraph on taking action to stop violent crime is the opposite of doing nothing. What, precisely, to you expect to achieve by doing nothing?

A temporary gun seizure campaign would do Malmö some good, and an extra manpower presence could reduce the number of murders and crimes that occur until the firearms are withdrawn. What, precisely, would you personally have to fear in the presence of extra manpower and extra verification for hidden firearms?

And are stepped up border inspections for weapons an item that you would personally fear? Laughably the head of border inspections recently admitted they weren't bothering to look for weapons because they were not told to place any emphasis on that. If they add some capability does that amount to a police state? Or common sense?

This is not Egypt or Syria where the police or the military consider themelves to be the de-facto ruling power, and so will fire live rounds into crowds of peaceful demonstrators. This is Swedish police and Swedish military we are talking about, who are able to respect the rules of engagement on any peace keeping mission. I have previously recommended a plainclothese military presence to help safeguard the Swedish 'brand'. In any case I consider the safety of the people more important than the safety of the brand, which has taken a hit recently because of Malmö in any case.

As for wiretapping, the only 'privacy' I have seen 'lost' by police action with regard to internet usage within Sweden is an attack on the bizarre belief that many Swedish people have that they should be entitled to download 1000 movies for free. If some residents of Malmö are arrested after it is found that they are planning to assissinate someone in an email conversation, what, precisely, have you lost personally as a consequence of that?

No one complains that airports are a police state, but in any airport you can get arrested for simpy saying the word 'bomb', and every man woman and child gets their luggage X-rayed an/or inspected, and all will be frisked if the metal detector alarm goes off. Police state? Or common sense?

People who would fear a temporary 'Swedish' police state to put a halt to the violent crime epidemic in Malmö either watch too much TV, or fail to understad the TV that they watch.

If you want to champion a do-nothing attitude, then you should explain precisely how a do-nothing plan of action would reduce crime in Malmö.
23:24 February 2, 2012 by lapua338
@ Reason abd Realism... a temporary gun seizure? Are you kidding me? Are you talking about illegal firearms? Or legally owned firearms?

Such is the nature of post modern politics, the state's inability to control the few dishonest people is corrected by them controlling and restraining the honest many.

The problem being that the honest many seem to welcome this illusion of issues being tackled, when in fact they are only avoided and hidden with political froth. Therefore nothing changes save the erosion of honest peoples diminishing freedoms.

The way I see it is because the law enforcement agencies cannot cope with the lawless, legally owned firearms are targeted to appease the liberals who know nothing about guns.

There's an ideological agenda of banning private gun ownership and organisations are merely looking at possible justifications for their actions.

Like the UN dreamers, Obama and his bitch Clinton, etc, not one of their anti-gun proposals will stop a criminal obtaining a firearm!
23:49 February 2, 2012 by Reason abd Realism

I have not suggested that all guns should be seized. My implication was with regard to illegal firearms. But if a legal weapon is concealed on your person, and if carrying an illegal weapon is illegal in Sweden, then you could have your gun confiscated.

Incidentally your assertion that criminals will find guns anyway, suggests an implication that it is not worth making any effort to stop them, which is identical to the the logic that all drugs, bombs, weapons might as well flow around freely, because any attempt to stop any one of these will never be completely successful. Great logic.

Any reduction in the number of guns held by criminals will reduce the risk of murder and other violent crimes. And you can complain all you want about Obama and Clinton, but they are trying to reduce gun crime in a country where the Virginia Tech massacre gunman, who killed 32 innocent young people, bought his weapons by simply checking off the 'No' box on a form next to the question that asked: Are you mentally ill? In the US you do not even bother doing background checks on the mentla illness of gun purchasers. What a genius policy you have there.

And before you bother to say that if everyone had a gun, the Virginia Tech massacre would have never happened, first A) look up the statistic that show that most gun murders are committed by people who know their victims, and so can choose the day and time of the murder, and can act in a way such that their victim will not be able to react quick enough, even if the victim owns a gun, and B) explain why it would be hell on earth, and a violation of your human rights, for you to have your guns locked up at the hunting lodge when it is not hunting season, rather than loaded and ready under your bed, more than 200 years after an invasion from England ceased to be a threat.
23:56 February 2, 2012 by nightwolf
Anders Breivik was also an immigrant Muslim who did not want to integrate into society? :D Or perhaps that mess which happened was also immigrant's fault?

Sorry, perhaps you admire him.
00:15 February 3, 2012 by Rod Munch
Funny how pro-asylum seeker/refugee people think that the actions of Anders Brevik (a one-time incident) somehow mitigates the murder, rape and violent crime that is committed everyday by their own. Ludicrous actually.
01:43 February 3, 2012 by phil23456
What a surprise, the same thing is happening in Western Sydney & it's the area where Muslims immigrate to. At least we have an ethnic crime fighting squad, u Swedes are weak weak weak whilst your women r raped and your welfare leached & the people doing it are laughing whilst you pay them to out breed you.
01:59 February 3, 2012 by TheWatchman

Yeah that's exactly what I'm talking about.


I don't believe that, I'll have to go to Sweden to check it out myself. I'm just going from my grandparent's experience here, but 1930's Canada was not very friendly to Jews but he was extremely well integrated. Jews weren't even allowed on beaches until the 1950's. If I went to Malmo, I'd most likely die, but I think Stockholm would be ok for me to live if I ever planned on it.
03:25 February 3, 2012 by Harry®
Easily fixed if Sweden simply banned the Koran. The only legally *defined* religion in Sweden (Defined in law by Sweden's constitutional Monarchy) are denominations of Christianity. Fact is Islam only creates horror Kleptocracies which Moslems after fleeing what they created are ONLY rescued by Nations raised on a Christian History. Countries raised with a sharia history usually kill them. All this means to most Swedes is that *IF* one worships God in Sweden it has to be Sweden's ONLY God - the Christian Go, whose compound redemptive name is *Lord Jesus Christ".

Sweden's Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived. Like Schizophrenics,they need therapy; Not confirmation of their delusions.

This would force integration and Assimilation.

Start (back) taxing this horror cult now before it's too late. the PC won't like ths, but weapon wise the Tax office is Sweden's best bet).
05:43 February 3, 2012 by SimonDMontfort
"Gun violence 'most common' in Malmö"?!

I've been reading about a number of fatal shootings there, over the last few months - nevertheless, I would NOT have believed it to be true without this latest story.

Really - does 'thelocal' not think its telling us something most of us have not already guessed at?
07:38 February 3, 2012 by RobinHood
Joining a gang of drug dealers, buying a gun and killing someone with it, killing your own daughter as a matter of "honour", or raping a woman because she is out alone, is not a failure to integrate, or a failure by Swedes to accept immigrants. It is something else. Some people here really need to reexamine their values.
10:51 February 3, 2012 by aprakashchennai
I myself an international student, to clarify an immigrant with student visa and not asylum seeker. I am not biased, yet with full confidence i say, there is no wrong on Sweden's side. The only wrong thing Sweden does is admitting asylum seekers.

You have to remember people into religion are and will act like PSYCHO. It is the country's government responsiblity to keep our home clean, there is no point arresting the wrong doers after they commit crime, instead we can prevent the crime and in this case its easy to prevent , don't allow asylum seekers.

I am telling you, Swedes are really confused with humanity of other national people but you don't see the outcome (Swedes peace is going away and sooner it be a goner)
15:27 February 3, 2012 by Birbun
You guys are so naive!

This is a well prepared Danish plan.

The danes keep tight their borders and they inciting the immigrants to go to Malmoe.

After the immigrants increase every year and riot.

So the situation starts to degenerate that Sweden will ask the help of Denmark...but Denmark won't help for free.

While the danes will come to Malmoe they'll try to take over Skane.

It's a danish plan.

Pure and simple.

Believe me.
15:30 February 3, 2012 by mafketis
It's not economic need or Swedish discrimination that's causing this, it's the values of the people involved.
20:36 February 3, 2012 by lapua338
@ Reason abd Realism... unfortunately the state has been unable to control the illegal acquisition of firearms by criminals.

I'm not implying that nothing should be done but if the state is serious about the violence in the city then something needs to be done as it will only get worse.

Also, I'm not implying that everyone should have access to a firearm. A significant number of people are incapable of handling a firearm and/or do not have a legitimate reason to possess a gun.

Why would a licensed and legitimate firearm owner store his/her guns at a remote premises? Security is paramount and an owner must ensure that their guns are securely stored to prevent access by unauthorised individuals. The onus is upon the owner to ensure safe custody of the gun(s) and ammunition.

I use my firearms every week and take my responsibilities very seriously indeed.
21:34 February 3, 2012 by Reason abd Realism
@ lapua338

I am not anti-gun or anti-hunting. My Dad owns a .22 and a .303., and uses them responsibly. I am anti-idiocy of the NRA variety.

More specifically what I am against is the brand of generic comments you (and almost all gun lovers, particularly in the US) make in your post 23.

Why does the NRA voice instant and abject oppostion to any form of legislation with the word 'gun' in it, even if that proposed legislation would do no harm to responsible gun owners and the law abiding public?

If marksmanship or hunting was the legitimate interest or hobby, why the need to legalize semi automatics and magazines that can hold >16 rounds?

I return to my example of the absence of any requirement to do background checks by gun sellers on gun purchasers, not only for a history of mental illness, but also presumably on their criminal backgrounds, especially at gun shows. Accordingly, on the day he is released, a mentally ill convicted murderer can drive his F-150 pickup to a gun show and immediately fill the cab with AK-47's and other semi automatic weapons.

How would legislation that prevents this guy from getting guns impair your personal freedoms in any way? And if they do not impair your freedoms, why don't you loudly voice support for these laws, or promote them yourself?

The Governor of Virginia literally said he had 'nothing but loathing' for people who were trying to turn the V. T. massacre into a political issue about handguns and weapons laws in his state, even while the blood was still pouring out of the 32 corpses and the families were grieving.

When the laws are so tragically flawed and the lawmakers are defiant in their insistence on doing nothing about it, I call these lawmakers imbeciles, and the people who support those views are no better.
22:31 February 3, 2012 by lapua338
@ Reason abd Realism... here in Europe we have those background and medical checks. If your system is flawed then of course it needs to be fixed.

I don't see any reason why civilians should be restricted in owning semi-automatic firearms (self-loading) or restricting the sale of high-capacity magazines. I'm law-abiding and a good citizen so what's the big deal for those who are not involved in shooting sports?

We are civilians involved in the sport of target and/or practical shooting and as civilians we do not have the legal authority to possess what some misguided people call "assault weapons"! In fact, I find the term "assault weapon" very offensive! The politicians and media are too stupid to have an accurate definition for what is essentially a sporting firearm. The term "assault weapon" sounds so much more menacing. So much more powerful and dangerous!
19:13 February 4, 2012 by Reason abd Realism
First of all I live in Europe, and am trying to keep the Swedish gun laws from turning into US style gun laws.

And the big deal about 40+ cartridge magazines for those who are not involved in shooting sports is that when a law abiding person like your fellow gun lover Brievik one day decides to become NON-law abiding, then the body count is 79 dead people, mostly teenagers, rather than the smaller number that might have occured if he had to deal with additional delays changing magazine cartridges (which may have allowed more to hide or swim to safety), and also may have limited the number of rounds he had with him.

And what precisely is about your hobby that makes it so essential that you need to fire 40+ rounds before reloading? Do you really need to fantasize that you have shot 40 martians in the forest (or whatever it is you are thinking) before you must interrupt that fantasy to replace the magazine, rather than say changing the magazine after only killing 16 martians? What would be 'the big deal' (to use your expression) with 16 round magazines?
22:46 February 4, 2012 by lapua338
Comment: @ Reason abd Realism... I take exception to p***ks who have an attitude of superiority who seem to think they know better and have a desire to interfere with my legitimate sporting activity.

If you think that a reduced magazine capacity makes a significant difference to your safety then you're very sadly mistaken. Do you really think I cannot be trusted with a 30-round magazine for a SIG 550 so therefore a 20-round magazine would be more appropriate (and safer for you)? I'm simply going to carry more magazines.

Why are you so concerned about restricting my freedoms? I'm not harming you or anyone else and there's always going to be a criminal element within any society and you cannot legislate for what the mentally ill or the criminal element might do. The actions of one "madman" shouldn't be used to make everyone else criminals too. Restricting my rights does not make you any safer.
01:16 February 5, 2012 by godnatt

As a long time gun owner, sport shooter and hunter I have to disagree with you on increasing magazine capacity so our hobby can be simply be more convenient.

Every US police officer I know, whom are not exactly liberals, are all for restricting magazine capacities because they understand the consequences of streets filled with more widepread high capacity magazines.

Colin Ferguson and Jared Loughner were both stopped while reloading.

Yes, carrying more mags or taping mags together are options, but neither are as efficient. Is a ban foolproof, no, but I'll trade a slight inconvenience for saving a few lives.
09:14 February 5, 2012 by cogito
Inevitably, the debate about the link between guns and crime has been rekindled. Some stats might help analyze the connection:

States with most gun murders:

% households with guns: (in parentheses fun murder rate per 100,000 pop)

3.8% Washingington D.C. (16 )

44% Louisiana (7.8)

42% Missouri (5.3)

21% Maryland (5.1)

42% Michigan (4.5)

States with fewest gun murders:

% households with gun (and in parentheses gun murder rate per 100,000 pop.)

42 Vermont (0.3)

3.0 New Hampshire (0.4)

8.7 Hawaii (0.5)

51 North Dakota (0.6)

43 Iowa (0.7)

(source: Behavioural Risk Factor Surveillance System)
10:47 February 5, 2012 by RobinHood
About 8 500 people are murdered by gunshot in the US every year. Tens of thousands more suffer life changing injuries. Tens of thousands more are killed or injured by accident. Every year! We need no lectures from that basket case of a country thank you.
13:57 February 5, 2012 by cogito

Source of your numbers? Does the source, assuming you have one, take into consideration factors such as demographics or geographical location.

All the evidence there is confirms that demographics, not gun possession, determine gun crime.
17:17 February 5, 2012 by RobinHood

If any of my numbers are incorrect, I am sure you will tell me which ones. Waiting!
17:39 February 5, 2012 by lapua338
@ godnatt... I'm not talking about increasing magazine capacity. My argument was that we don't need to be lectured to by politicians and others who do not participate in my sport and seem to think that they know better.

Plus, I'm not interested in stats from the USA, which have no relevance here in Europe.
22:52 February 6, 2012 by Anglosaxon123
Yes, immigration has gone too far. But shouldn't we be more concerned with our OWN politicians who create government policy to allow the immigrants to enter?

The immigrants don't create soft liberal rules. Those rules are created by our OWN SILLY PEOPLE!
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Sweden is set to get 1.2 billion kronor ($168 million) back from the EU on December 1st, according to leaked EU documents which suggest that other European countries will have to make large top-up payments this year. READ  

Asteroids leave mark on Sweden
Astroids can leave marks like these. Photo: TT

Asteroids leave mark on Sweden

Some 458 million years ago, Earth was whacked in a double asteroid strike, leaving craters visible in Sweden today, space scientists have reported. READ  

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New coalition reveals 'compromise' budget
Prime Minister Stefan Löfven and Green Party leader Åsa Romson. Photo: TT

New coalition reveals 'compromise' budget

UPDATED: Prime Minister Stefan Löfven's Social Democrat-led coalition has revealed its first budget proposal, listing plans to spend more than 20 billion kronor. READ  

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Swedish royal couple set wedding date
The couple pictured in the summer. Photo: TT

Swedish royal couple set wedding date

Sweden's Prince Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist, who got engaged earlier this year, have announced they will marry next June. READ  

Sweden Democrat threats 'just a show'
Sweden Democrat leader Jimmie Åkesson. Photo: TT

Sweden Democrat threats 'just a show'

There is talk that the nationalist Sweden Democrats could trigger a fresh election, by rejecting the new coalition's budget. But leading Political Scientist Li Bennich Björkman tells The Local that the party is just game-playing and should be focusing on getting its fatigued leader back. READ  

What's On in Sweden: October 24th - 31st
Chocolate and liquorice are on the menu in Gothenburg this weekend. Photo: Shutterstock

What's On in Sweden: October 24th - 31st

A secret gig in Stockholm, a short film festival in Uppsala and a gastronomy event in Gothenburg have caught our eye this week. READ  

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