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Female Israeli settler attacks Swedish minister

Female Israeli settler attacks Swedish minister

Published: 16 Feb 2012 07:40 GMT+01:00
Updated: 16 Feb 2012 07:40 GMT+01:00

Swedish minister for education Jan Björklund, the leader of the Liberal Party (Folkpartiet) was attacked by a female Israeli settler, while visiting Hebron on the West Bank on Wednesday.

“It was an unpleasant situation but the Swedish security service dealt with it quickly and efficiently,” Björklund told daily Aftonbladet.

Björklund has been in Israel since Sunday and the Swedish delegation was on Wednesday visiting Hebron to look at the Israeli settlements and visit the organization Temporary international presence in Hebron (TIPH), according to the paper.

But one female settler apparently took exception to Björklund and his party, deciding to make a lunge for the minister.

“During the tour a settler became aggressive and attacked Jan Björklund. His body guards from the Swedish Security Service, Säpo, deemed it necessary to intervene,” confirmed Björklund’s press spokesperson Eva-Marie Rydberg to news agency TT.

Though Björklund said that the woman suddenly approached him and seemed very aggressive, she never managed to actually hit the minister but doled out some punches to his guards before being overpowered.

“A sort of scuffle ensued between the guards and the settler,” confirmed Rydberg to TT.

Maria Kabatanya, an observer for the Christian Council of Sweden (Kristna Rådet) witnessed the incident.

“She got the Säpo guard instead of Jan Björklund and hit him three times before she fell to the ground. She continued screaming there,” Kabatanya told Aftonbladet.

After speaking to one of the Israeli soldiers accompanying the group, Kabatanya was told that the woman was enraged by the presence of a Palestinian among the visiting party, which allegedly was strictly forbidden on that street.

The Israeli soldiers quickly decided to interrupt the tour as the settlers continued to act aggressively.

“They thought it best that we stop the tour of the area immediately, which we did,” Rydberg told TT.

Björklund has been meeting with Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu while in Israel and will on Thursday meet with Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas.

TT/Rebecca Martin (news@thelocal.se)

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08:13 February 16, 2012 by arslan11
" the woman was enraged by the presence of a Palestinian among the visiting party, which allegedly was strictly forbidden on that street".

what a mindset :) But these settlers would not be bracketed as extremists.. Hats off to US and NATO allies.
08:35 February 16, 2012 by RobinHood
I bet the crazy old bat isn't on anyone's no fly list either.

List the whole bunch of them. as unfit and unsafe to travel with civilized people. That would give them food for thought.
08:45 February 16, 2012 by byke
Again, why is he there?

Hasn't he got schools in Sweden to look after or are they all working fine?
09:02 February 16, 2012 by ruimove
Let's make some changes:

"After speaking to one of the Israeli (German) soldiers accompanying the group, Kabatanya was told that the woman was enraged by the presence of a Palestinian (Jew) among the visiting party, which allegedly was strictly forbidden on that street."

People should learn from the past, afraid that in some parts of israeli society that is not happening and it's sad.
09:22 February 16, 2012 by Hebron
This article is inaccurate. The woman from Hebron made no attempt to engage the Swedish visitor. She protested to Israeli security personnel at the site, the presence of Arabs escorting the minister in the Israeli sector of Hebron. By Israeli law, they are forbidden from entering such areas, and were later arrested by Israeli police for breaking the law.

It should be noted that Israelis have access to 3% of Hebron, while Arabs have access to 97% of Hebron. Israelis are forbidden to enter the Arab areas of Hebron at all.

Finally, we are very disappointed that the Swedish minister would visit Hebron with TIPH, and other NGOs, together with Arabs, but would not meet with Jewish residents of the city, and Jewish leaders of the community. Had he thought to request, even a short meeting with us, I'm sure any and all unpleasant scenes could have been, and would have been, avoided.

We invite any and all foreign visitors to meet with us, when they visit the holy city of Hebron.

David Wilder

Spokesperson

The Jewish Community of Hebron

hebron@hebron.com
09:39 February 16, 2012 by Cana
It is a good start for him. Let him visit mugadishu where he will recieve more warm welcome than hebron. What a nightmare for him.
09:44 February 16, 2012 by RobinHood
The Palestinian accompanying the delegation well knew that he was not allowed in this area because of his race and religion. He must have only of got that far because the security detail didn't realise who he was. This sort of thing can be avoided in future by compelling Palestinians to wear an armband indicating who they are. They might be more easily spotted also if they were made to walk in the road instead of the pavement.

That worked really well the last time someone tried to exclude people from areas because of their race and religion. I just can't remember who it was. Can anyone help me?
10:08 February 16, 2012 by ruimove
Again let's make some changes:

"This article is inaccurate. The woman from Hebron (Berlin) made no attempt to engage the Swedish visitor. She protested to Israeli (German) security personnel at the site, the presence of Arabs (Jewish) escorting the minister in the Israeli (Arian) sector of Hebron (Berlin) . By Israeli (german) law, they are forbidden from entering such areas, and were later arrested by Israeli (German) police for breaking the law."

Racial and Possession of land motivated laws in XXI century Israel, looking like 1930's Germany! This doesn't help the jewish communities around the world at all, it makes things worse.
10:11 February 16, 2012 by Cephalectomy
again lets make some changes, the minister attacked the woman and felt sorry about it and was later sent back to his country

isnt that closer to the truth ?
10:13 February 16, 2012 by ruimove
@Cephalectomy

your point is?
10:23 February 16, 2012 by sarah02
this is what happens when you go to the middle east people -_-
10:33 February 16, 2012 by motti
So it's okay for Jews unable to visit Arab areas, as they will at the very least be slaughtered. This also includes areas not just in Israel, but also most islamic countries where the Jews lived for thousands of years before Islam.But is not acceptable for Arabs to visit highly sensitive areas where Jews live. Read again the post from Hebron!

Perhaps if sweden were to adopt a more empathic view of Israel, then I am sure that most Swedes would have been made more than welcome. The other point is, why did the Swede insist on an Arab accompany him? did the Swede insist on a Jew accompany him to the ancient city of Hebron? No, and why not?

Perhaps some of you need to look at history and absorb facts and understand the whole situation before fingers are hastily put to the laptop. I would suggest futher, that only Norway adopts a more sinister anti Israel posture than Sweden. I have the perfect answer to the proble. Allow all and every Arab the right to settle anywhere in Sweden. Your love for them is as great for them as your hate towards Israel.
10:53 February 16, 2012 by byke
I wonder if they tried to book him and his entourage into the king David hotel afterwards.
10:55 February 16, 2012 by occassional
Is he there for Parent's Day?
10:56 February 16, 2012 by byke
Lucky he didn't become the next Folke Bernadotte
11:11 February 16, 2012 by Buckshot
What is he doing in Hebron? He should leave this shithole and others like it to the cavemens.
11:20 February 16, 2012 by Scepticion
@ Hebron.

The question is, what are Jewish settlers doing in the first place in Hebron? They unilaterally (against UN resolutions) occupy palestinian territory like colonists of the past. If Jewish - unfortunately I have to state here fundamentalists - wish to live there, they should not do it as part of the state of Israel.

I have always been sympathetic to Israel when attacked by Arab countries, but the current policies are racist and not conducive to peace. Israel is destroying itself by letting itself be more and more dominated by fundamentalist settlers with huge birth rates.
11:24 February 16, 2012 by Samy Karlen
To Motti and Hebron, please stop using emotional language in order to change the facts in the ground. The situation of Jewish settlers in Hebron is not that of peaceful Jewish city natives not being allowed to walk in the city but rather a 3% colonial settler movement protected by the Israeli soldiers who forcefully occupy and constantly harass the native population. a 3% of religious extremists who are amongst the most violent of the settler population whose security needs--not withstanding the fact that their mere existence in the West Bank is illegal under international law-- is dictating the livelihood of the majority non jewish natives. I have been to Hebron and saw how the city's street are under constant curfew by the Israel soldiers. Your attempt to put make up over the ugly reality is not fooling anyone, as most Israelis are actually against the settler movement especially the ultra religious freaks like the hebronites. Access to holy sites get negotiated in a final peace agreement not by planting militarized settlement in civilian centers, imposing facts on the ground, committing crimes and the crying wolves. As for the Swedes complaining about the visit itself, grow up already! Sweden is involved in international aid and supports education initiatives across the globe. Swedish involvement in these situations actually provides you with plenty of respect and appreciation, unlike other Western colonial powers. This is a globalized world and there is a reason as to why you have a policy of international engagement and wide respect. You want to become as hated and criticized as the U.S. be my guest.
12:31 February 16, 2012 by Frobobbles
Jews and palestinians need to learn to get along. The can take a lesson from Sweden, where the sve and göte get along just fine.
14:17 February 16, 2012 by Hebron
She doesn't exactly look like she's about to 'attack' anyone. To the contrary, the Swedish bodyguard attacked her. See for yourselves:

http://youtu.be/yZe8nQ_cWTU

As for why Jews are in Hebron: Jews have lived in Hebron for almost 4,000 years. It was the first Jewish city in Israel, home to Abraham and Sarah, Isaac and Rebecca, Jacob and Leah. They are buried at the caves of Machpela, the 2nd holiest site of the Jewish people, second only to Temple Mount in our capital, Jerusalem. King David began his rule in Hebron. Jews lived here until they were slaughtered by their Arab neighbors in August, 1929. Sixty seven were killed, 70 injured, and the survivors expelled. In 1967, with the liberation of Hebron, Jews came back home, to live in this holy city. It is our home, always has been and always will be. And we will continue to live here, despite attempts by others to again expel us. They will fail.
15:04 February 16, 2012 by krrodman
It is the responsibility of a visiting dignitary to know the laws of the land. That would be true for an Israeli visiting Sweden, as well as for a Sweden visiting Hebron.

Assuming that Bjorklund was aware of the law(no excuses if he were unaware), then bringing a Palestinian into an Israeli settlement against prevailing law is a provocative act worthy of a response.

What did he expect? The Israelis to bow down to the Swedish Minister of Education? What a joke!
15:22 February 16, 2012 by tgolan
It was the guards who attacked the woman not the other way. It was she who was beaten to the ground for just expressing her views , Lets us be clear that these people are not settlers but the descendents of the survivors of the 1929 Arab massmurder of Jews of Hebron town who had lived in the town for a thousand years. Thier families were murdered and their property given to Muslims just because they were Jews. And the UN and Europe support this crime. They have a Human right to return to their homes and property and no foreigner especially from Sweden , where Jews were in the 30s sent back to Nazi Germany and today Jews are attacked in Malmö has a right to interfere
15:28 February 16, 2012 by zooeden
1 Why was he there???

2 If you can see the mindset of that woman who basically reflects the israeli feelings towards no solidarity, no peace, no delicacy, no argument, no tools of negotiation... Sad really
15:34 February 16, 2012 by Kevin Harris
@Krrodman

Perhaps Mr Björklund meant to show that a country that presents itself to the world as enlightened and civilized, actually has a law that ban people from certain areas because of their race and religion. Such a law is repugnant to all civilized people, and something most countries moved on from many years ago. Either voluntarily as in the US, or by force as in Nazi Germany.

I didn't know that yesterday. I do today. Good job Mr Björklund. Now we all know a little more about Israel.
15:52 February 16, 2012 by Svensksmith
Maybe she thought he was the mayor of Malmö.
16:00 February 16, 2012 by Polish-Finnish Swede
Well, Mr Björklund is also deputy prime minister and leader of the liberal party (Folkpartiet), Sweden's most pro-Israeli party. Perhaps not the best Swedish politician for an Israeli to attack.
16:02 February 16, 2012 by Lavaux
Why is a useless Swedish politician sticking his nose into a Jewish settlement? Indeed, what business does any pacifist have poking his nose into a conflict? I bet this schmuck Björklund wouldn't visit Sevedkvarteret in Malmö, where only Muslims will carry the mail, without a security detail twice the size. Yes, that's right, there are places in Sweden where infidels are not welcome, yet self-righteous Swedish pols feel compelled to parade their moral superiority abroad when things at home are falling apart.

I've always wondered whether there's any difference between anti-Semites, Israel haters and Palestinian supporters. Reading some of the comments posted thus far, I'd have to say there's no difference save for honesty, i.e. only the anti-Semites are honest about their motives.

As for Folkpartiet, calling them "liberal" is a deep insult to liberalism.
16:11 February 16, 2012 by Polish-Finnish Swede
Hardly a pacifist (former army major). He and his party is pro-israeli and that's probably the only reason why Netanyahu met with a 'mere' minister for education. The meeting with Abbas was probably to show balance and to show that Netanyahu's policies are not really appreciated, not even by Folkpartiet.
16:46 February 16, 2012 by krrodman
@Kevin Harris

I was making a slightly different point. Politics aside, either Minister Bjorklund was ignorant of Israeli law, or he was breaking the law on purpose to make a political statement. In either case, the Israeli response was predictable.

And, as you point out, there are always lessons to be learned. Assad has now murdered more than 5000 of his own people. Where is the moral outrage? Why are there no protesters in the streets of Stockholm and Malmo demanding the end to the killing of innocent Arabs? ( I remind you of the protests and newspaper coverage when Israel invaded Gaza. ) Is the lesson here that the world doesn't really care when Arabs kill Arabs? Or, is the lesson that the world will hold the Israeli's to a different moral standard than its Arab neighbors?
17:09 February 16, 2012 by Polish-Finnish Swede
@ krrodman

Björklund must have had Israeli officials with him, including Israeli troops. The woman probably regards most foreign officials as 'hostile'.

I do agree with your second point. Whatever Israel does to protect its interests - huge protests. When arab dictators kill 5000 civilians then suddenly political relativism about democracy/free elections - and 'hands off'
17:09 February 16, 2012 by Greysuede
The Liberal Party has got nothing to do at home, I wonder?
17:24 February 16, 2012 by bcterry
"Is the lesson here that the world doesn't really care when Arabs kill Arabs? Or, is the lesson that the world will hold the Israeli's to a different moral standard than its Arab neighbors? "

The "lesson here" is clear as day,

"http://www.youtube.co/watch?v=LeGYAfh9A1k"
17:35 February 16, 2012 by gh2008
byke #3 & others wonder why is a minister, deputy P.Minister and party leader visiting Israel?

what kind of F$$k logic is that?

Motti,

all credit to your argument, but have you ever seen those videos all over youtube? videos that show a whole village go on a rampage only because some little girls have to cross the settlement to school!

keep your fixation guys and do as you please. no one on this planet has enough power to stop you.

finally, i apologize to all Israelis for my words; so you, Motti, know how powerful you are that i can't stand my own words against you and your like.
17:58 February 16, 2012 by Kevin Harris
@Kroddman

You clearly didn't read the story reported yesterday in the Local about Mr Bildt expressing on behalf of all right-thinking people of Sweden, his disgust with Mr Assad. Or noticed that the leaders of many other countries have also made similar comments. Please pay attention.

Quite what does that have to do with the topic of this debate; that a country that presents itself to the world as a civilized society, shares laws and values more usually associated with reviled institutions like the Nazis, the KKK and assorted other disgusting regimes long since consigned to the dustbin of history?

Perhaps you might enlighten us why it was not OK for the Nazis and the reptilian racists of the American South to adopt these laws and values, but it is OK for Israel to ban a person from the city of Hebron for no other reason than he is of the wrong race and religion.

Most of us are from countries way past the stage where this sort of thing is acceptable; you are clearly not. It would be interesting for us all to hear you justify why nothing but a man's race and religion should preclude him from going to a certain place.
18:02 February 16, 2012 by zeulf
@ #4 ruimove : Sad to say but the "Jews" learned all too well about the Nazis, I'll guess some of them are a bit reactionary after the 1939-1945 episode . Sverige did not play a good role in that one
18:48 February 16, 2012 by guliver
I blame our government they know exactly the situation in Hebron and the political views and believes of the settlers,

They should avoid and advice the Swedish Minister not to visit the settlers area.

Also sometimes there are tensions between IDF and the settlers and between the settlers and the Palestinians.the isue must be solved just by political means and the visit of that Minister with an Palestinian member in that delegation put just more oil on the fire which is there for the last 30 years.

Hebron is an holly place also for the Jews ,a permanent Jewish community was there before 1929 when the arabs did a pogrom in that community,according resolution 181 of the UN from 29.11.47 Hebron would have to be inside the Palestinians state but the old Jewish community there would have had the permission to stay and to have double citenzenship.

Any way I am really sorry for what happen to the Swedish minister,it is really ashame to behave like that and there is no justification to such behaviour even if the Swedish government is against what happen there.
19:08 February 16, 2012 by calebian22
Israel just needs to take out the trash. The world hates you so do what is best for Israel. The world will not hate you more than it already does.
20:54 February 16, 2012 by TheWatchman
It's not because he's Swedish, which in itself is a good reason to be angry (not to attack, but because Sweden has taken a pro-Palestinian stance which obviously Israelis would be angry with) but because he had a Palestinian along in that party when it was not allowed in that street. The morality of that can be debated, but given the circumstances, it is justifiable, considering if a Jew were to enter 'Palestine' he would most likely never make it out alive.

That's sort of like blaming a Russian resident for attacking (not severely I should mention) a Spanish official for bringing a Chechnen along. It shows that they don't really care about what they have to say, they've already taken their stance.
21:27 February 16, 2012 by krrodman
@Kevin Harris.

I do not consider myself a keen historian. I am not aware of the history of the middle east in enough detail to debate with you.

I do, however, have a keen sense that Israel is held to a different standard. For example, you connect Israelis and Nazis. Tell me if I am wrong, but as I recall Nazis systematically exterminated Jews(and others) with the intent to eliminate Jews from the planet. Are you suggesting that the intent of the State of Israel is to eliminate every Palestinian? And, how do you account for the fact that there are Arab Israelis who are citizens and who hold positions of power in the Israeli Parliament? Did Nazi Germany allow Jews to hold positions of political power? The comparison is trite and silly.

Let's compare Israel to an Arab country such as Saudi Arabia. Let's start with the basics. How many synagogues are there in Saudi Arabia? Churches? Are Jews or Christians allowed to practice their religion openly without fear of repression or reprisal? Are they allowed to hold political office? Do you consider Saudi Arabia to be a civilized country? I assume not since Saudi does not allow even the most basic civil liberties.

Be honest now, would you rather be an Arab citizen of Israel, or a Jewish citizen of Saudi Arabia, Iran or Syria?

And, are do you harbor the same venomous anger toward Assad for murdering 5000 of his countrymen as you feel toward the State of Israel?
21:32 February 16, 2012 by muscle
this is not an issue. the issue is why the hell in local, the swedish word of the day are getting repeated:@ I wanted to improve my vocabulary COME ON!
22:05 February 16, 2012 by godnatt
@ krrodman

You are absolutely correct that Muslims are never held to the same standards as Israelis or any Western society.

Excuses are made for atrocity after atrocity, for the widespread violent extremist opinions that are the norm in poll after poll, for the barbaric treatment of women and minorities...

If they try to murder an artist for their work, we are supposed to reflect on how to be more sensitive.

But if Sweden doesn't get the welfare checks to the asylum seekers on time or Israelis install check points to protect themselves we are all racist Nazis...

The unspoken rule in the media seems to be that the Muslim world is composed of children to whom the normal standards of human conduct do not apply.

Because if we held them to the most basic standards of human decency we would have to also demand that they abandon their belief system that fuels the madness. And no one seems ready to do that... yet.
22:35 February 16, 2012 by curtonthebeach
#5

"It should be noted that Israelis have access to 3% of Hebron, while Arabs have access to 97% of Hebron. Israelis are forbidden to enter the Arab areas of Hebron at all."

Mr Wilder this kind of situation could be avoided if you and the other illegal squatters left he occupied territories and went back to your own country, israel.
00:04 February 17, 2012 by bcterry
"Mr Wilder this kind of situation could be avoided if you and the other illegal squatters left he occupied territories and went back to your own country, israel. "

Really?

"They want us to recognise the Israeli occupation and cease resistance but, as the representative of the Palestinan people and in the name of all the world's freedom seekers, I am announcing from Azadi Square in Tehran that we will never recognise Israel," Ismail Haniya said.

"The resistance will continue until all Palestinian land, including Al-Quds (Jerusalem), has been liberated and all the refugees have returned," he said."
00:14 February 17, 2012 by blursd
I think "Hebron" makes a very valid point, and many other users have shown how this story isn't entirely accurate. You can't just believe something simply because someone writes it ... even the media. You still have to use your critical reasoning skills ...

All things aside ... are there Israelis who are prejudiced against and hate Palestinians with a visceral passion. Absolutely. Some Israeli settlers are the cream of the crop when it comes to Jewish extremism, but it's not very accurate to suggest that ALL Israelis, or even ALL Israeli settlers are identical (anymore than suggesting all ethnic Norwegians are the same as Anders Brievik).

I didn't hear much outrage when Hezbollah fired scores of rockets at Israeli apartment buildings, or when Hamas fired an anti-tank missile at an Israeli Elementary School bus ... Or, as it's been mentioned, Assad killing more Syrians in the past month than Israel killed during the entire 1960's and 70's.
07:47 February 17, 2012 by Kevin Harris
@Kroddman

If as you say, you are ignorant of Middle Eastern history, and incapable of debate on that subject, why on earth are you wasting the valuable time of posters at The Local with your pointless ramblings about something which you admit you know nothing about?

I agree with you, that in the sad circumstances of your ignorance, there is little point in you trying to debate with me, or even posting on this subject again.

I will however deal with your question raised in your final paragraph; my answer is "Yes." What decent human being wouldn't be? A decent human being can be equally as repulsed by mass murder in Syria as he/she can be repulsed by a country that says it is civilised, but instead enshrines in its laws the racist values of some of the most despised and reviled regimes in history.
11:58 February 17, 2012 by krrodman
@Kevin Harris

The intent of blogs is to provide a forum for reasonable debate. Unfortunately, they often degenerate into trash talk.

The fact that you attack me personally rather than discuss the issues is a clear indication that you have nothing constructive to add to the debate.
12:44 February 17, 2012 by godnatt
@ kevinharris

"but it is OK for Israel to ban a person from the city of Hebron for no other reason than he is of the wrong race and religion."

Oh, and perhaps self preservation due to the fact that 80%+ of Palestinians express support of terrorist attacks in opinion polls when people bother to ask and most would like to see the Israelis wiped off the face of the earth to the last man.

"Seventy-three percent agreed with a quote from the Article 7 in the Hamas Charter, about the need to kill Jews: "'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.'"" - IPT

Yes, those poor misunderstood Palestinians. It's the color of their skin and not their savage perpetually genocidal beliefs that are the problem. Get a clue.
13:58 February 17, 2012 by guliver
Curtonthebeach

" if you and the other illegal squatters left he occupied territories and went back to your own country, israel"

Yes Curton the situation is very very complicated,it is not just black and white,Mr.Wilder has right by saying that in Hebron was allways a Jewish community for generations untill the Pogrom done by the arabs to that old community in 1929,he is allways right about the historical old ties of the Jews to that old city, that situation was also in old Jerusalem with the Jewish Quartier.

Resolution 181 of the UN decided on the partition of Palestine in 2 states : a Jewish one and an Arab Palestinian one,the UN had also designed the borders of the 2 states and the relations between them,Hebron was designed to stay in the Arab state ,but the resolution took in account a situation of 10000 Jews who will find themselves in the arab new state and some 100,000 arabs who will find themself inside the Jewish state,it was decided that these civilians on both sides will be able to get both citenzenship and to stay as permament residents in their homes for exampl:The Jews of Hebron and Jerusalem,or the arabs which villages fall inside the Jewish state-resolution181 from 29.11.47.

That resolution was totally rejected by the arabs and accepted by the Jews,followed 64 years in which the arabs categorly reject the 2 states principe
17:34 February 17, 2012 by cogito
07:47 February 17, 2012 by Kevin Harris @Kroddman "...why on earth are you wasting the valuable time of posters at The Local..." (#45)

"Valuable time?"Oh, the irony.

@ubiquitous TL poster Kevin Harris. Tell us more about your "valuable time." Kroddman is a doctor. What do you do that is more valuable than that?
17:40 February 17, 2012 by stevo1
get over yourselves, no one really cares about this bullsh*t! We're all waiting for the tyrants to wipe themselves out, so we can get on with living life and caring for eachother
18:42 February 17, 2012 by cogito
@ #50. "If no one really cares about this..." why are there 50 comments? And why are you here?

And is your time as valuable as Kevin's (#45)?
19:15 February 17, 2012 by Bleichroeder
The poor minister felt like a Jew walking through Malmo - the only difference was that he had someone looking after him and protecting him (Israeli soldiers).
19:33 February 17, 2012 by bcterry
"The poor minister felt like a Jew walking through Malmo - the only difference was that he had someone looking after him and protecting him (Israeli soldiers). "

As opposed Malmo muslims, who stand by and condone any mistreatment of jews by their brothers.

"Arab hate: Muslim Brotherhood rally in Cairo's most prominent mosque Friday turned into a venomous anti-Israel protest, with attendants vowing to 'one day kill all Jews.'

Some 5,000 people joined the rally, called to promote the 'battle against Jerusalem's Judaization.' The event coincided with the anniversary of the United Nation's partition plan in 1947, which called for the establishment of a Jewish state."
19:49 February 17, 2012 by Archie1954
Why would any European government official visit such a non entity of a state in the Middle East? What purpose can be served by seeing the hate and misery exposed there? Why give that state the satisfaction of thinking themselves important enough to warrant such interest? It's beyond me.
06:03 February 18, 2012 by guliver
Archie 1954

"Why would any European government official visit such a non entity of a state in the Middle East? What purpose can be served by seeing the hate and misery exposed there?" I do agree with that affermation I do not agree with the second part,

I can just say this act shows the stupidity of our government ,they know exactly the situation in Hebron,the visit in the settler's area brought them just an international damage I can not even think on"satisfaction" but just on failure,they should have avoided that visit at least by the settlers,no problem doing a visit by the Palestinian authority which is in other area, the visit just made the flames higher and helped nore Sweden,not the Palestinians because it did not solve nothing and yet did a very bad sevice to our actual government. who with its uncorrect diplomatic views made the wrong decision
11:27 February 18, 2012 by motti
In reply, yes Jew hatred is alie and well on this site. but keep it coming, because that way, we know your deviancy is stll there brewing for the opportunity of another holocaust.

The sheer ignorance posed by some is quite clear. If a Jew wants to live anywhere in the middle east, where Jews have lived for thousands of years before Islam, why shouldn't they? To see malicious attacks against Israel for no other reason than it is the sole Jewish country is unaccaptable. Even more so when the Christians in the middle east are facing the same slaughter, insults, forced conversions and exile that the Jews faced earlier. It is shameful that the Christian churches in the middle east are just as Jew hating as part of 2000 years hostility towards the Jews. Therefore, they should be looking at the real enemy that is behind the current problems.

Israel was legally formed as a state, u nlike the many Arab nations which were given statehood by colonial Britain. Transjordan was formed out of the British mandate of Palestine by Britain against the clear intentions of the Balfour and san Remo declarations. Just like Iraq, both countries had Hashemite (from Arabia) princes placed as kings to protect British oil interests. Jordan only became a statewhen it illegally took control of Samaria and Judea during the war of Indepence. The surrounding Arab countrieds invaded Israe; in the aftermath nearly 1 million Jews became refugees from Islamic mid east and north African countries.

Why no interest in these people? Is it because they are Jews? No! For the same reason millions of refugees after world war II had to be looked after by the host countries. No billions of dollars aid for them. so why do "Palestinians" accept huge obscene amounts of =tax payers money? Yes, because Israel is Jewish. And that suits the Jew haters fine.
13:53 February 18, 2012 by brash
@motti and like-minded. I would concede that some of the posts on this site reveal a lack of knowledge about history. But has it ever occurred to you that people are not Jew haters, as you repeatedly claim (which simply points to a troubling victimization complex), but are simply offended by the constant and grotesque lack of human decency shown to Palestinians on the ground?

Just to cite a few examples: the humiliating checkpoints Palestinians are subjected to when visiting family or the hospital or to fulfill a job? The constant land grabs by Israeli settlers (Israel has 236 Jewish-only settlements and outposts on confiscated Palestiinian land!). The demolition of Palestinian homes (24,000-plus Palestinian homes versus no Israeli homes.) The disproportionate slaughtering of Palestinians in various clashes over the years (9,226 Israelis versus 45,000 Palestinians in the years 2000-2009). And then you ask, "why do 'Palestinians' accept huge obscene amounts of taxpayers money?" Well, how many "huge obscene" billions of dollars does Israali accept from the US and spend on military hardware?

Consequently, Israeli is perceived by a watching world (and most of us have no axe to grind) as bullies and brutes and the Palestinians as angry and powerless victims. Can it be any clearer?
16:37 February 18, 2012 by Streja
No one thinks Norwegians are like Breivik because he was ONE person who is the ONLY one who has done that in Norwegian history. Now compare that to Israel and Palestine and it's not really a valid argument.
16:46 February 18, 2012 by guliver
brash

Tell me please between 1948-1967 the occupied territories were in Arab hands,Israel did not occupy an Inch of that land ,why did not they build their Palestinian state then?because the issue was not a Palestinian state but elimination of the state of Israel,do they recognize the right of Israel to exsist? the answer is no! they reject it for 64 years,How did we get in these territories? does Israel weak up one morning and decided to have some more teritory? no it was the same situation in 1948 ,we were attacked and we push the offensive inside their territories,Do I think that the settlements were a good idea,no I personly think it was a mistake,Dowe have to control these territory until a peace agreement can be reached?Absulotly! Does the occupation make the life of the Palestinians miserable? surely they had to think about it before opening the war in 1967,and the Check point?they had to think about it before coming to our cities to blow themselves.
18:39 February 18, 2012 by Citoyen Philippe
Swedish governement has a provocative attitude against ISRAEL. As the Church of SWEDEN ! LUTHER hated thes Jewish people !

How many Jews are leaving MALMO because antisemitism ?

And the boycott of israeli ships during a week in MALMO !

And the ISRAEL SWEDEN tennis play closed to spectators.

I heard about the growinf number of neo nazis in your country. Her is a lot of work to do for your ministers !
19:37 February 18, 2012 by moncey
To Sweden..

Pls make up your mind..
20:40 February 18, 2012 by rise
Build a giant car park of the whole of Israel and why not a huge casino in the middle. Jews, Arabs - throw them in the sea. All of them. That should make the area calm and peaceful.

Why? Cause neither Jews nor Arabs even wants any peace. They've been fighting in the area for at least 2000 years. They won't stop fighting today. They won't stop tomorrow.
14:16 February 19, 2012 by brash
From certain writers on this site, one gets the distinct feeling that you are committed to viewing Sweden as anti-semitic country. Of course, you can cite a few warped examples to prove your point. But I could provide overwhelming examples of the opposite--Swedish efforts to protect and accommodate Jews throughout the 20th century, from the heroic efforts of Raoul Wallenberg (who himself died in the Gulag) to the thousands of Jews who fled the Nazis and, later, the Communists, to come to Sweden, from Norway, Denmark and the Baltic countries. Sweden is an open, democratic, multi-cultural country and, if there are isolated incidents, Swedish values are ones of tolerance and freedom of religion.
18:26 February 19, 2012 by guliver
Brash

I do agree with you,about the help of Sweden to the Jews in past, I do have respect for those people who saved the Jews in the 2ww,my fother was saved by the Swedish Counsul in France,he gave him cerificate that he is under the protection of the Swedish state,

I am really sorry to hear bad reports about the Jews in Malmo.I hope that the Swedish will act in that direction,I am ready to hear critics about my country I am not saying "Amen" on everything my actual government do,

Rise do not push yourself to extermistic Idea's still in both people Palestinians and Israel there are enough people who wish to reach a peacefull solution,also Denmark and Sweden were hunders years in conflict, I am sure that it will not take more then 40 years to reach a peace treaty
07:06 February 20, 2012 by rise
guliver, yes if Denmark and Sweden is a thousand years old each they've made a countless amount of wars for 800 of them. Then both countries grew up and stopped behaving like little children.

Jews and Arabs now are like those little children. Hopefully they will grow into adult peoples within those 40 years you mentioned. But I don't think they will, or even have a wish to. I think it is the world around them who eventually will loose patience with them and MAKE them calm down and start behaving like grown ups.
07:55 February 20, 2012 by TheWatchman
@Brash

'the humiliating checkpoints Palestinians are subjected to when visiting family or the hospital or to fulfill a job?'

They exist for a reason. Before they were set up, Palestinian Hamas could do as they please. It is a fact that these checkpoints reduce the number of Israeli civilians who have to die. Could they be more efficient? Maybe, but removing them is quite literally murder.

'The constant land grabs by Israeli settlers (Israel has 236 Jewish-only settlements and outposts on confiscated Palestiinian land!)'

Well legally and historically, it isn't their land, and never was. But from a logical perspective, I myself am not a fan of these settlements, and despite the fact that I believe all of this land belongs in Israel's hands, it currently is not legally a part of Israel and no more should be constructed.

'The demolition of Palestinian homes (24,000-plus Palestinian homes versus no Israeli homes.)'

I think this is extremely wrong, even though Hamas actually uses bathroom sinks (and tunnels beneath them) as a way of transportation, this is immoral and this should not continue unless photographic evidence and video evidence is taken of the tunnel system and it be recorded in a database.

'The disproportionate slaughtering of Palestinians in various clashes over the years (9,226 Israelis versus 45,000 Palestinians in the years 2000-2009).'

This is an outright lie. No more than about 7,000 Palestinians in that
10:24 February 20, 2012 by Citoyen Philippe
Gun violence !

Continued violence !

Bomb attacks against police stations !

Where are we ?

In ISRAEL ?

Not at all !

In the so called peaceful SWEDEN !

In MALMO !

Please don't give lessons to other peoples !
12:48 February 20, 2012 by brash
"The sky is fall, the sky is falling," cries Chicken Little (a.k.a., Citoyen Philippe).
18:37 February 20, 2012 by guliver
Rise

I do believe it is matter of time, you can not force the child to grow up mentaly and phisicly it is a proccess you call it adolescence from 12 years old till 18 years old or even later.

Also people has to go through democratic developments it was the proccess of the democratic developments in Europe,the arab sociaties if you analizze their sociaties are still not there ,but in the rapid changes in the middle east which started in Tunis and then in Eygpt and now in Syria people want to get their social rights and freedom,a proccess will change these sociaties so I do hope,it can not been done by force from outside,when it does not come from the people who remain fedel to their old bielives and it start from the family and goes up to government and election.
18:59 February 20, 2012 by motti
Brash I'll tell you why. After 1948, nearly one millions Jews were made homeless having to leave ancestral lands where their families lives for thousands of years before Islam Just like Christians are being bullied and leaving middle east countries today. After World War II, the were tens of millions of refugees in europe and Asia. Think of India alone. Or Russia and Germany etc. There was no help, no UN organisation to help the refugees, including the pitiful remnant of homeless Jewish refugess in Europe.

Today the only "Refugees" who have recived help since 1948 are the so called Palestinians. The only country open to abuse, lies, threats of being wiped out, divestment, boycotts etc, you name it, is Israel. The only single Jewish country. There is no doubt that many Jew haters are once again making antisemitism respectable, through the continual onslaught on Israel.

Unfortunately, if you are genuine, you are being brainwashedin Sweden and more so in Norway. When do you hear or read of Israeli accomplishments. Of Israeli help to eatrthquake vicitms and so on? When do you read of the Muslim attempts to copy the old Christian values of wiping out Judaism. This is not paranoia, this is fact. I suggest if you really want to know the truth, you will have to go to the WWW, such as Debka.co., MEMRI, the Jerusalem Post, Israel National News to obtain real facts and news. You certainly won't obtain it from your national news media. THe Arbs are still threatening to murder all Jews who they claim are descended from apes and pigs. I ask them if this was after or before Abraham. They show no respect to others, let alone to themselves.

OPEC gave Europe and theworld a choice, either you support us for oil, or you support Israel and no oil. In 1973 , after the war, Golda Meir prime minister went to the Sociualist international and she asked her fellow socilalist "friends", if Israel hads lost the war and the Arabs were to carry out their threats to slaughter us all, what help would you have given us? The silence was deafening. This was after all of europe refused badly needed weaponry supplied by America to fly over their territory. Yet, Russia had supplied all weaponry prior to, during and after the war.

So you tell me,Brash, whoi is correct in this arguement. Of course not all Swedes are Jew haters, nobody has put that arguement forward. But please do try and read a little history and learn present day facts. Then place your arguement with pleasure.
21:06 February 20, 2012 by rise
guliver what you say is true; change has to come from within - if there's ever going to be any. What I am wondering about is how much patience will the world around them have? The world did not have patience with the former Yugoslavia, didn't have it with Irak, neither with Afghanistan nor Libya. And these are just some fairly recent examples. What's next - Iran?

It is dilemmas that goes over generations - only one person's memory and life is way too short. However the world isn't likely to be interested in waiting over generations for a problem of theirs to be solved...
10:55 February 21, 2012 by motti
I note very little mention here of the Syrian government killing far more Arabs and no mention of the continual slaughter of Jews (and yes Christians, other Moslems, Hindus, Druse, Kurds, pagans, Buddhists etc etc etc) No only Israel is to blame for so called genocide. Get real and face facts, overcome your bias, and seek out the real problems. I explained earlier above.
19:59 February 21, 2012 by guliver
Rise

We do not talk just about a single state -all the moslem countries together are about 200 millions people ,the Golf states ,Eygpt,Jordan ,Iraq,Iran,Syria, the north African arabs states ,Lebanon ecc, a huge number of population,it is not Juguslavia it is about the sociaties in all the Islamic world together,and if you talk about the world they could do something just in a special cases Juguslavia Lybia , but in Syria it is terribile ,China and Russia oppose any intervention against Asssad,....you speak about the world- who is the "world?" The free European countries and USA and they are not able to occupy and inforce democracy in so many countries, and do not forget Africa we do not hear on the bad economical,health ,political situation there
22:30 February 22, 2012 by Gustav Jung
Wow, the paid Goyim bashers are really out in force here - must have struck a nerve. Probably had a pay upgrade. (If you don't think they are being paid, see http://www.countercurrents.org/cook210709.htm)
04:38 February 24, 2012 by guliver
Gustav Jung

nonesense
17:37 February 28, 2012 by Danish Voice
The Swedes have always been cuddling up to totalitarian powers. During WWII, they let German troops be transported through Sweden to occupy Norway. Their transports of iron ore kept Hitlers weapon factories going and prolonged the war by years.

During the Cold War, Swedish elite cooperated with USSR and DDR. Even though the archives now are open, Swedish a historian is threatened with prison, if she publishes their names.

At present Sweden percieving the Arabs as the strongest horse,have placed their bets with the Arabs.

That's all that counts for Sweden, and the media is eccoing the voice of the state indoctrinating the authoritarian Swedish population, that Israel is oppressing the "Palestinians", while it is the Arabs oppressing them..
03:01 May 11, 2012 by Israel
Lies and not only should Jan Björklund make sure that reports involving him be reported accurately, but the Swedish publication should get its facts right. This article is inaccurate. The woman from Hebron made no attempt to engage the Swedish visitor. She protested to Israeli security personnel at the site, the presence of Arabs escorting the minister in the Israeli sector of Hebron. By Israeli law, they are forbidden from entering such areas, and were later arrested by Israeli police for breaking the law. It should be noted that Israelis have access to 3% of Hebron, while Arabs have access to 97% of Hebron. Israelis are forbidden to enter the Arab areas of Hebron at all.

Finally, we are very disappointed that the Swedish minister would visit Hebron with TIPH, and other NGOs, together with Arabs, but would not meet with Jewish residents of the city, and Jewish leaders of the community. Had he thought to request, even a short meeting with us, I'm sure any and all unpleasant scenes could have been, and would have been, avoided. We invite any and all foreign visitors to meet with us, when they visit the holy city of Hebron. David Wilder Spokesperson The Jewish Community of Hebron hebron@hebron.com
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