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Swedish terror suspects convicted in Denmark

Swedish terror suspects convicted in Denmark

Published: 04 Jun 2012 10:13 GMT+02:00
Updated: 04 Jun 2012 17:20 GMT+02:00

The men had been charged with one count of terror crimes and two counts of violating weapons laws.

The three Swedish nationals and one Tunisian living in Sweden had pleaded not guilty to the terrorism charges, but a district court found all four "guilty of terrorism", chief judge Katrine Eriksen said in the unanimous verdict, which was broadcast live.

However Sahbi Ben Mohamed Zalouti, Munir Awad and Omar Abdalla Aboelazm -- all Swedish citizens of Tunisian, Lebanese and Moroccan origin, respectively -- and Tunisian national Mounir Ben Mohamed Dhahri were found not guilty of a secondary charge of weapons possession due to a technicality, she said.

Prosecutors had asked that the four, aged 31 to 46, be sentenced to between 14 and 16 years in prison -- which would have been a historically severe sentence in this kind of case in Denmark.

Prosecutor Gyrithe Ulrich insisted to Jyllands-Posten on Monday that "this case is different from other cases and should result in a stricter penalty.

"They were close to carrying out (the attack). This was not just initial preparations as we have seen in other cases," she said.

"In this case we were very close."

But the court in the Copenhagen suburb of Glostrup opted instead Monday to hand the four 12 years behind bars, on a par with two other sentences handed down to date in cases involving terrorism plots.

Both sides have 14 days to appeal the verdict and sentencing.

"We are very satisfied with the result of 12 years," Ulrich said after the sentencing, adding that she had yet to decide whether to appeal.

Awad, Abdalla Aboelazm and Dhahri were arrested in Copenhagen on December 29th, 2010.

The men were based in Sweden and had travelled over to Denmark by car the night before they were arrested in a flat in the Herlev district of the Danish capital.

A fourth, Mohamed Sahbi Zalouti, who had abandoned the group in Jönköping in central Sweden, was later arrested at his apartment in the north Stockholm suburb of Järfälla.

He was subsequently extradited to Denmark.

Prosecutors had charged that the the four planned to "kill a large number of people" at the Jyllands-Posten's offices in Copenhagen when they were arrested on December 29, 2010.

The daily paper in 2005 published a dozen cartoons of Islam's founding prophet that triggered violent and sometimes deadly protests around the world.

A machine gun with a silencer, a revolver, 108 bullets, 200 plastic handcuff strips and $20,000 were among the items found in the men's possession when they were arrested.

Danish police, who had been collaborating with their Swedish counterparts and had been wiretapping the men, said they swooped on them just after hearing them say they were going to the newspaper office.

The four all adamantly denied the terrorism charge, but Dhahri pleaded guilty to arms possession.

Prosecutors said during the trial that the target of the suspected plot was likely an award ceremony celebrating the "Sporting Newcomer of the Year" at the Jyllands-Posten building.

In addition to a number of sports celebrities, Danish Crown Prince Frederik was present at the ceremony, but prosecutors said the four did not appear to have known he was there and that he was probably not their target.

The court was set to hand down its sentence later Monday. The four risk up to 16 years behind bars.

Jyllands-Posten has been the target of a string of attempted and plotted attacks, and remains a top target for Islamic extremists, Danish intelligence service PET said at the end of January.

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12:21 June 4, 2012 by karex
It might be a good idea for Sweden to benchmark their Danish neighbors and update their crime penalties such as incarceration periods for starters.
13:25 June 4, 2012 by DAVID T
And when this scum finish their sentence don't let them back in Sweden - send them back to the shitholes they came from
16:29 June 4, 2012 by ctinej
I dont get it. These scumbags wanted to kill as many as they could, so we just treat them to a Danish prison for a few years and let them out. I dont think there is a person in Sweden who thinks they will be "rehabilitated".

I dont think there should be a difference between murder and attempted murder. Both have the same intent. They should all be given the same sentence that they planned for those wonderful Danish people working in the offices marked for death.

I wish I could read an article about mass deportations to clean up and save Scandinavia from the flesh eating bacteria called Islam.
17:20 June 4, 2012 by bcterry
Islam,

hate, violence, subjugation, fascism, death, totalitarianism, insanity, (see above article), and world dominance.

Other than that it's a religion of peace.
17:57 June 4, 2012 by InterceptorZone
@ctinej

There are muslim people who are fiercely against these kind of attitudes and wich these things (Which I cannot call human beings) to be incarcerated for their lives. Their are simply messing up the image of moderate muslims who have chosen to live in a free and democratic society, respect the laws, and considers all others, even with different religions/beliefs as brothers. Trust me, they are enemies of moderate muslims before they are your enemies. I know it's kind of hard to understand, as I can imagine, Swedes put all in the same bag. But I think with this growing threat, Swedes, first responsible of bringing extremists to their land, under the cover of human charity, should learn how to make the difference because it's crucial.
20:21 June 4, 2012 by godnatt
@InterceptorZone

True enough.

But the number of "moderates" in the Muslim world is clearly in the minority if anyone bothers to look at opinion polls coming out of that part of the world.

The true moderates and non-Muslims are suffering more than anyone, but distinguishing them from the lunatic majority when they come over is impossible. They've all learned exactly what line of BS to sell to the "depraved" Swedish infidels who will support them for the next few decades.

The new scam is 30+ yr old men coming over illegally and claiming to be orphaned children and Sweden can't even send them back because they can't prove their age is over 18. It's like a sick joke.
23:59 June 4, 2012 by Uncle
InterceptorZone

I do not doubt that everyone knows that the first and statistically most suffering population of islam are muslims themselves. Hell, only shia and sunnis eliminated few million just for the heck of it in the past 50 years. I am not even starting on the lack of democracy, executions, prisons etc.

But how do you explain the support for islamists in Iran in the 80's? Was it really a minority? Did it not get support from the majority of country's population? How about Egypt? What about all the sharia states? What about all the post-soviet Asian republics who WILLINGLY chose clerics to rule them? What about the multi-thousand demonstrations followed with public beheadings when someone says something about your beloved messiah?

OK, you know what? Let's believe you and assume that majority of muslims is a peace loving, hard working, well humored bunch of people who love a drink and a good company. Let's imagine that the majority is actually considering their daughter's opinion about their future husband - a law. Let's get all on hallucinogens and imagine that the muslim society is not educated in hatred towards Jews and gays according to the best of Nazi education.

WHERE is this nice majority? WHERE? Where are these democratic and peaceful countries that do not burn minorities with napalm? Where are these waves of immigration that integrated fully and are in MAJORITY working (like for example the Asians)? Where are these good laughing fellows, who worry about nothing, but equality, right of choice, right to say whatever about ANY religion, right for a fair trial etc?

Can someone show them to me? Why are these hundreds of millions are hiding somewhere, whereas the Islamic world is constantly overrepresented by "rotten apples"?
08:09 June 5, 2012 by bcterry
@Uncle,

One word, ........... BRAVO!
08:43 June 5, 2012 by Rey Stockholm
And then people wonder why the Sweden Democrats get stronger !

They are the only party who say what ordimary people want in cases such as this

Automatic Deportation
10:58 June 5, 2012 by InterceptorZone
@Uncle

You let yourself go on that. I haven't said more than this: The moderates exist. I didn't say they are the majority.

However the majority takes it all and design the picture that Westerns look at about our society.

I myself suffer to see my homeland devastated by Islamists who took control over the country via legal elections. Who elected them? The people of Tunisia! Now as I am following the news, I can see how bad the situation is. Groups of mercenaries walking on the streets, burning bars, restaurants, attacking hotels, harassing academics and artists.. on the name of God. My dad called me last time and he said: we are not protected anymore. The police won't interfere and they're keeping a neutrality position.

Reports say also that many of the people who elected this powerful Islamist party regret it badly at the moment because they figure out the huge mistake they did to trust Islamists.

Speaking about Jews, you can't imagine how bad Tunisia suffered economically and socially after they decided to leave their country in 1967. It happened after Islamists broke into their shops and businesses causing them severe losses. While pretending supporting the cause in Palestine, Islamists allowed themselves the steal jewelry from Jews shops, knowing that theft is forbidden in Islam. Jews of Tunisia left and they've left behind a gap which is still not fixed up to today.
12:21 June 5, 2012 by Uncle
InterceptorZone

Ok. As said I completely agree with you that the normal minority in these countries is suffering more than anyone and unlike Jews they don't even have anywhere to run, as any muslim country has its own oppression perks.

But my question is what do the normal ones do about it? What organizations are trying to influence the brainwashed population in these countries in order to prevent this regression through democratic elections? What Islamic organizations are gathering funds to assist the immigrants to integrate themselves, educate themselves, avoid crime and get a job? What organizations are assisting these immigrants open a business?

What organizations are openly working with SÄPO to assist and locate the "rotten apples" and kick them out? How can imams propagate jihad for TENS of years while living in the west, without anyone reporting them? Why are AL Qaida training bases exist for years in Sweden without any report? If reporting happens, why is it not public?

Why your journalists are not coming out publicly with shock and condemnation of anything that happens in your society? Why nobody talks about the female situation with your majority? About the racism in your countries? Terror?

All the "normal" are busy with is telling stories about the "moderate" population which is totally unseen.

It is in YOUR interest to reverse the popular opinion, for GOD's sake!
12:22 June 5, 2012 by awash
it's sickening to see these haters/criminals getting such world-class treatment while other innocent, productive and skilled refugees are being subjected to daily harassment:( lock them up for the rest of their live in solitary confinement.
12:36 June 5, 2012 by InterceptorZone
@Uncle

I will get back to you about that! Let me finish what I've started first. I've exceeded the quota allowed to me in my previous comment.

... Islamists according to what I know - I believe I know enough to reveal their masks - are the best case ever of hypocrisy, contradiction, absurdity and cruelty all mixed together. They come to Sweden, pretend to be nice and very poor fellows who need immediate help. They pretend that they have been persecuted back home and they risk to be killed. After they have got all they want - they only get and never give - they start to think how they can change the laws in Sweden. Starting by asking governmental school to prepare special food for their kids, up to refusing their kids to go in school trips because they won't let their daughters (or even sons) sleeping with other Swedish kids! Speaking about this school in Jonkoping where the dean had to cope with these demands that go against basic concepts of democracy. Knowing that they live in a country where people keep their best friends from elementary school, don't they think that this attitude can create a big obstacle against integration? If they want to live so why don't they come back to where they coming from? You see the big contradiction in here?

It's because they want to get advantage of the life in Scandinavia without making effort to respect the laws here and to understand that this is a free country where people are supposed to say whatever they think about anything they want. Sometimes I am having hard time to believe how stupid they are. They running away from countries where the same rules/habits they want to establish here, made these countries poor, under developed, corrupted.. Why are they trying to do the same old thing?

Religion has never succeeded throughout history to protect lives, freedom and democracy. Nevertheless, democracy has protected religion and I have met many who admit that, for instance, they are practicing their religion with more ease here than back in their countries of origin. So why do they want to destroy this? Is that because they are destructive by nature?
12:43 June 5, 2012 by Raffal
Terrorism is invading Europe :(
12:45 June 5, 2012 by InterceptorZone
.... I read in the metro newspaper today that one of the guys convicted to the Danish court for terrorism crime, had several problems back in Sweden, among which, sexual harassments, misbehavior, robberies, ..etc. You know what, it didn't sound strange for me at all. Because, the same bastards manifesting terrorism in my country were criminals. Some of them escaped, others are let free by the Islamist government to help them control the country.

Maybe I've gone beyond the topic - I really do have a full bag to empty - but I wanted to say that Islamists are as harmful in here as in their country of origin and that they should be considered as public threat. Answering again, Uncle questions, Yes Sir, there are some well behaved Muslims who worship democracy, occupy high positions in either government or private held corporations across Sweden, and are highly educated people. You just didn't have the opportunity to meet them and because as you said they are a minority.

Finally, I think I should feel sorry for myself as I have to pay the bill of etiquettes and prejudices because evil individuals from my country are doing nasty things to the world, and then I should feel sorry for Sweden as its legendary tolerance gets used and abused over and over again.
14:20 June 5, 2012 by bcterry
"Finally, I think I should feel sorry for myself as I have to pay the bill of etiquettes and prejudices because evil individuals from my country are doing nasty things to the world, and then I should feel sorry for Sweden as its legendary tolerance gets used and abused over and over again. "

One question, are you standing up in your mosque and denouncing the same things you are denouncing here, if not, why not?
15:02 June 5, 2012 by InterceptorZone
@Uncle

Don't let yourself be lead by emotions. I will answer your questions one by one. Also, I think you don't seem to have the whole picture in mind, but, it is my pleasure to explain to you as much as I can even-though I don't have much space here.

We tried to establish solid education system based upon science, freedom of expression, logic, respect of the other different from us, and more than anything, respect of civil code. Here I prefer to speak as a citizen who belongs to a country and not as an individual who belongs to a religion. The reason is simple. I think it's the role of the government/nation since Tunisia has been declared a republic since 1957 to keep this extremely crucial separation between the State and the Religion. As I said it started with high quality education and campaigns to create awareness among citizens in order to let them feel nationals who have to prioritize their loyalty toward the Constitution. In the sixties, people were hungry but schools were compulsory. Parents who didn't let their kids go to schools were sent to jail. The experience has succeeded to a point that the country developed a very amazing level of safety among neighboring states. Nowadays, the situation is the total opposite. But wait! Aren't they the same people? How did they change suddenly to promote extremism among themselves? I wish I could answer this mysterious question few years ago. But now, I can think of many reasons for that. Unemployment and social exclusion are among the prominent factors. Education shouldn't have been the only weapon our politicians relied on. As for instance, the group who attacked the WTC are pilots and engineers graduated from Hanover and California. So the situation is much, much, much, worse. It means that today any engineer or doctor can be suspicious just because he is Muslim. Do you feel already the weight we carry with us? We feel like we are suspicious until we prove the opposite. That is how we live everyday here until it becomes normal but it still not fun.
17:58 June 5, 2012 by Uncle
Continue. It is extremely interesting to hear a Muslim who is not busy defending the extremists, but on a contrary, has a very firm view of them. And I join Bcterrys question (just to give you a lead)
18:14 June 5, 2012 by InterceptorZone
Let us move to your question about Islamic organizations. Attacks, plans leading, weapons, explosives ...etc in a mostly capitalist World require a lot of money. How could a group of unemployed individuals rise the huge amount themselves without external help from Islamic organizations? Secret extremist organizations across the Arab world have promoted extremism for decades providing support and directions. It was more concrete during Afghanistan war against the Soviet forces, but back then Westerns didn't call them extremists as they were fighting against the same big Siberian enemy. Rich Arab countries are logically the most appropriate to integrate these groups with few exceptions. They have spent fortunes for their propagandas, from launching hundreds of Satellite channels to the creation of schools which provide wage, food, and accommodation for men coming from all Muslims countries. Actually, it is in these kind of schools where they do all the brain washing process. These guys upon graduation, become Imams, travel the world and preach for Jihad. I wish they have spent all of this money making people happy in their homelands so they wouldn't feel the need to flee overseas.

When the Islamiska Förbundet has been launched with the support of Swedish government (as usual) the deal was that democracy and laws of Sweden must be respected! IF, for who doesn't know, it is the corp responsible for assigning Imams to Mosques in Sweden. Through several secret interviews reported by a Swedish journalist, 6/10 Imams answered yes for polygamy and 6/10 advised to NOT report abusive husbands!

http://www.thelocal.se/40866/20120516/

This means Imams didn't honor their agreement with Sweden (as they always speak about honor). Here comes the Swedish government responsibility to either forgive them or to stop the whole trial. But of course you can guess the Government's response. It's also the Swedish officials responsibility when they let in thousands and thousands of people with Islamist background without exhaustive investigations and severe selections. It's aslo the Swedish government responsibility to let in thousands of refugees and illegal immigrants when they aren't sure they can provide support, work, or shelter for all them. This again creates social exclusion, high rate of unemployment and suburb ghettos as it the situation now in Rosengard and Rinkeby, the ideal nest for producing very dangerous individuals. This is said, if the Swedes themselves can't stand to protect their country and most importantly their culture and signature, that is starting to be wiped out, don't expect immigrants to do that. They will start to react when they smell the approach of "mass deportation". However, I didn't know there are Qaida training bases in Sweden, but if it's true, that's the beginning of the no return.
18:22 June 5, 2012 by Raffal
Same question as Bcterrys and Uncle here.. ?
18:29 June 5, 2012 by InterceptorZone
When it comes to SAPO efforts, I won't say no if they ever need my help in anything. Actually I think I can be much of a use to them. Knowing that there might be some guys who will track my IP address and try to haunt me down. But in general, the overall situation doesn't look very promising or at least there is no guarantee for protection. What's the point to stand in a mosque or in Sergel Torg and scream bloody murder: DO NOT LET THEM OUT because they will never be able to rehabilitate and that extremism is a virus with no remedy? What is the point of doing that knowing that they will be sentenced to few years of prison before they actually get out again and maybe try to kill me?

I honestly feel very unprotected when I see that the current system lacks severity and that it keeps treating them with vigilance and a bit of kindness although these bastards have no sense of humanity. They were planning to kill dozens of innocent people and all they've got is 12 years with the right to appeal. Too funny to be true.
18:42 June 5, 2012 by bcterry
@interceptorZone,

These are the points i was referring to when i asked you if you stood up in your mosque to denounce them.

"... Islamists according to what I know - I believe I know enough to reveal their masks - are the best case ever of hypocrisy, contradiction, absurdity and cruelty all mixed together. They come to Sweden, pretend to be nice and very poor fellows who need immediate help. They pretend that they have been persecuted back home and they risk to be killed. After they have got all they want - they only get and never give - they start to think how they can change the laws in Sweden. Starting by asking governmental school to prepare special food for their kids, up to refusing their kids to go in school trips because they won't let their daughters (or even sons) sleeping with other Swedish kids! Speaking about this school in Jonkoping where the dean had to cope with these demands that go against basic concepts of democracy. Knowing that they live in a country where people keep their best friends from elementary school, don't they think that this attitude can create a big obstacle against integration? If they want to live so why don't they come back to where they coming from? You see the big contradiction in here?

It's because they want to get advantage of the life in Scandinavia without making effort to respect the laws here and to understand that this is a free country where people are supposed to say whatever they think about anything they want. Sometimes I am having hard time to believe how stupid they are. They running away from countries where the same rules/habits they want to establish here, made these countries poor, under developed, corrupted.. Why are they trying to do the same old thing?

Finally, I think I should feel sorry for myself as I have to pay the bill of etiquettes and prejudices because evil individuals from my country are doing nasty things to the world, and then I should feel sorry for Sweden as its legendary tolerance gets used and abused over and over again. "
20:53 June 5, 2012 by Uncle
InterceptorZone

Oh, GOD! I want to take your words and shove them down the throats of iraniboys, cowboys and others who NEVER admit to the facts that you just highlighted here.

They just sit and constantly blame the western world in the medieval mentality that islamists actively promote in their homelands, as well as the countries they seep into with one goal - turn the naive west into the hell that they already introduced to arab, persian and other nations.

I do not think that I could find even one thing that I disagree with. If I were in the decision position, I would invest considerable budget to surround you (and those alike you) with spec ops and a HUGE stage. I would post your opinions in newspapers, party websites and school boards. I would give you air and debate time where you could point out to those blaming you in "betraying" islam to the fact that it is THEY who did not understand jack in what religion should be teaching.

The purpose is not to bash muslims, but to actually start removing the brainwashing monster imams from this society by exposing them. The purpose is to show the west that there are those with a PLAN. To put the normal citizens in a position to fight the barbarian majority. Those who would create a society of muslims who are not afraid of the bullies in your midst.

Those, who would assist the legal system of the west to find and eradicate the centers of aggression. Those who would SIT in the immigration services and differentiate between those, who need help and those who want to invade. I would put committees filled with "InterceptorZones" to audit mosques and "charity organizations". Those, who are loyal to the country of Sweden and put it before their religion. Like this and ONLY like this you would start removing the perception that is making your days so bad!
22:13 June 5, 2012 by bcterry
"Those, who would assist the legal system of the west to find and eradicate the centers of aggression. Those who would SIT in the immigration services and differentiate between those, who need help and those who want to invade. I would put committees filled with "InterceptorZones" to audit mosques and "charity organizations". Those, who are loyal to the country of Sweden and put it before their religion. Like this and ONLY like this you would start removing the perception that is making your days so bad! "

Then i'm afraid his/her days will never improve, because this criteria will never be met.

I only say that, because to my knowledge, there is not one example of this to be found anywhere.
23:47 June 5, 2012 by Uncle
"I only say that, because to my knowledge, there is not one example of this to be found anywhere."

I agree. That is why I wondered if it is one person in every 50 million, or is it a secret society of actually and totally normal people that are hiding somewhere there?

I was wondering if in this billion there are actually those who are physically capable of telling the truth about medieval barbarians. People who would say: "Yes, we have enormous problems" and actually analyze them without adding: "BUT look at crusaders, BUT look at nazis and commies, BUT look at serial killers" the usual justification for whatever is going on with the islamic world.

But I think that you are right.

InterceptorZone, there is a HUGE chance that you are freaking unique. Quite sad, really. Your existence is just a exception for a rule, unless proved otherwise by multi-thousand organizations and democratic islamic countries, that actually STAY democratic. So far it is all, but progress all around there, as you correctly mentioned.
10:32 June 6, 2012 by ericrufinosiah
From now on,I'll only support Sweden Democrat and do hope all right thinking natives Swedish do the same for the good of Sweden.
14:06 June 6, 2012 by bcterry
@interceptorZone,

I'm not at all surprised that you are avoiding my question.

Actually, to be honest, i knew the answer before i asked it.

@Uncle,

It's obvious that the lip service we get from muslims, in no way translates into factual reality.

Bukhari:V4B52N268 "Allah's Apostle said, 'War is deceit.'"

Qur'an 9:3 "Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations."

Qur'an 5:41 "Whomever Allah wants to deceive you cannot help. Allah does not want them to know the truth because he intends to disgrace them and then torture them."

Taqiyya ................ Kitman
21:34 June 6, 2012 by InterceptorZone
@bcterry

I am not done answering Uncle's questions about journalists. I've been just talking around without coming straight to the point. Believe it or nor it's the first time I actually reveal What I think. It's not strange after all. The fact that 3 Tunisians are convicted to a Danish court for terrorism and a trial of killing "as much as they could" of "free-thinkers" teared my apart to the core. I'd just lie if I say I don't care. But I will answer you, even-though your question seems to be an unnecessary incitement rather a lead to a structured discussion. No Sir, I don't stand in a mosque to give people lessons. I am an academic and if I will do something, I will do it my way. There are better channels to conduct messages like this. But you're not entirely wrong. Maybe that is the best way to tell them what the sad truth is about Islamism. I can think also of a community that will integrate Muslims who think like me. Who would do anything to make our image shiny and give a good example. If we can make this good example, it will spread across Europe for sure. But things like this are done step by step and take time. If you were trying to intimidate me through your question, I think you failed. Because I will do it with a minimum of support, I do have a lot of things to say to make them ashamed.

However rather than your suggestion, I am thinking about better, lasting and more efficient solutions. A lesson, I've learned, you get nothing out of discussing with Islamists. Any way of discussion, negotiation, or compromise won't simply work with them. So even trying it is worthless. What could be done instead is to target their kids and kids of Muslims of Sweden in general. It's about how to make them nationalists. Kids who will grow up with the love of Sweden, Swedish values, Swedish culture and Swedish history. They'd keep their religion as an intimate matter and they'd learn how to use it for the best of their nation. They'd look at the other Swedish kids as their brothers and sisters and they will establish lasting friendship with them as that is the only way for social success. It will prevent them later on from being excluded from the society, something that could make them ending up in extremism. It's also about how to implement programs that will help these kids getting out of the dark cloud of narrow thoughts, opportunism, tyranny of a large majority of their parents. It could be done through school campaigns to help the kids or teenagers know the Swedish laws they can count on anytime they are pushed hard by their family. Only then they'd become free citizens and true Swedes who would stand against anything that could eventually threaten their country.
23:17 June 6, 2012 by Uncle
bcterry

I hear you. Perhaps you are right.

InterceptorZone

Don't you think that you describe an utopia? Just a few posts ago you highlighted that education in Tunisia was primary tool and it failed to stop islamization. Do you even believe that a full integration is possible? Do you have any example of a total integration of such different mentalities on community levels?

What about a contrary method, like the one used in practice in the US? There Spanish/asian/Russian/ communities are sort of autonomous with their own businesses, their own teachers and their own press. At the same time, the lack of radicalization is assured by the same nationality police/FBI agents and lawyers, who are in turn answerable to the state authorities.

You see what I mean? Little old ladies in the immigration authority cannot even differ between Somalians, leave alone verify their heart ripping stories about burned villages. White officer Svensson cannot disperse a muslim riot without having "racism" stamp on himself. Even teachers cannot complain on a wild immigrant kid without a high risk.

How about total isolation of the communities with their own checks and balances and with officials who are answerable to the Swedish authorities? With time, some will integrate, some will not, but it will be WAY harder to get to extremism or crime, when any imam who peeps about violence is bent over by MUSLIM policemen.

When Swedish way of living will be transferred to the kids by muslim teachers, who are in turn audited by very loyal and integrated muslims? How about Islamic banks that allow or refuse a business loan? These will be hard to cheat.

Such communities will have a budget and they will ALSO make sure that the country does not accept whoever and whenever, since the budgets will be limited. What do you think about that as a way of filtering and improving the radical majority?
10:02 June 8, 2012 by Breizh
There is a major confusion here. Why worrying for islamist political parties while the german ruling party is called Christian Democrats? Do we witness mass violence against non-believers in Germany? Is Germany ruled by God's law?

The islamist political activists have been major political actors for more than 80 years in many countries, fighting oppressive regimes and hoping for democracy. It is not a surprise if they got a strong support from the population. We must make the distinction between islamist Parties: political, and islamism as a religious movement, which is not necessarily violent. Moreover Enhadda in Tunisia or the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt were elected democratically and thus their legitimacy is not to be questioned. There are not the sole parties and their influence is regulated by secular constitutions.

Don't misundersand me, I condemn firmly the doing of these four men, they planned to attack a journal, the freedom of speech and thus democracy itself. However many comments here are clear attacks against the freedom of religion, which is also a pillar for our democracies, and thus is as repulsive as the terrorist acts of these men. Are you willing to give up your democratic ideals for the sake of security? Who is winning here?
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What's On in Sweden

It's Pride Week in Stockholm. Find out more about the celebrations (including the biggest Pride Parade in Scandinavia) as well as plenty of other activities in Sweden's three biggest cities. READ  

Sweden resumes aid to 'anti-gay Uganda'
Hillevi Engström and protesters against Uganda's anti-gay laws. Photos: Maja Suslin/Ben Curtis/TT

Sweden resumes aid to 'anti-gay Uganda'

Sweden has resumed sending development aid funds to Uganda, after suspending payouts back in March due to "anti-gay legislation". READ  

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31 July

Calling a speedo a speedo (Blogweiser) »

"There are a lot of speedos on Europe’s beaches. Some European males are evidently more comfortable sporting small, stretchy suits on public beaches than I would be. I accept it may be nice to have swimwear that’s not long and cumbersome. A speedo is maybe also good for tanning. But strolling around town in a..." READ »

 

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"I woke up in the comfort of my own little cabin on Eva and Rolf’s boat, it was 7:30am and I was feeling a bit groggy after a couple of beers with all the lovely locals the night before. The previous day had really taken its toll on my body and I was very stiff and..." READ »

 
 
 
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