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Sweden Democrat in teen sex crime castration call

Published: 11 Sep 2012 14:23 GMT+02:00
Updated: 11 Sep 2012 14:23 GMT+02:00

The demand was made by Ronny Karlsson in a post published by Krokom Sweden Democrats wrote on the site under the headline “Idyllic Rosengård”.

“A 14-year-old girl was this weekend subjected to sexual abuse by four boys at a playground in Rosengård. The boys, who are all under 15, have been questioned by police and have admitted the offence," the post read.

"The punishment must be surgical castration and deportation."

On Monday, Karlsson, who is the district head of the Sweden Democrats in Jämtland and Härjedalen counties, confirmed to Swedish newspaper Expo that he had penned and published the demand.

“I wrote it and I stand by it,” Karlsson told Swedish paper Expo on Monday.

The incident to which the post alluded took place at a Malmö playground during last weekend.

One of the boys involved was 12-years-old. According to Expo there has been no information anywhere which contains the nationality of the young suspects.

Surgical castration entails the removing of the testicles. However, Karlsson was unwilling to comment any further on his suggestion to the newspaper, saying that he’d “gain nothing from speaking to reporters”.

However, Sweden Democrat spokesperson Martin Kinnunen told Expo that surgical castration of under aged sex offenders is not an issue the party is currently pursuing.

“From the party’s view this is not a policy we are pursuing. Neither is the deportation of 12-year-olds but it is hard to say anything about what will hypothetically be possible," he said.

"We have spoken before about lowering the age of criminal responsibility to 12 years of age. When talking of deportation there are many factors to be considered, so it is hard to say."

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15:05 September 11, 2012 by jostein
Well, its better than to be the perpetrator in pedophilic sexcrimes, as was the case with a representative of Moderaterna last year. Obviously the media said nothing.
15:08 September 11, 2012 by whoye
it's clear as daylight that Karlsson's uncle touched his penis when he was a little boy. and from the day it happened vulnerable Karlsson had become a very sensitive "individual" with a "post traumatic stress disorder". poor boy Karlsson
15:21 September 11, 2012 by Fernandis
Being a foreigner, i believe it is a gr8 suggestion and I agree with SDs on proposal but it should be for everyone who is involved in rap cases.

----For swedes it should be CASTRATION only

----ALL OTHER immigrants it should be combined with DEPORTATION.

Finally, if Sweden gives asylum to Afghans like ppl who sewed their lips, raps or violent crimes'll are no surprise from such ppl.
15:48 September 11, 2012 by Samuel Nemalladinne
I am not Swede, I am from a very secular country and YES i do stand by what Karlsson suggest... CASTRATION and DEPORTATION.. come on swedes grow some balls and have the courage and kicks this idiots out of your country, they don't belong here... 10 years tops you ethnics will be a minority.. i am pretty sure about that !!
15:50 September 11, 2012 by snowmagician
Three things :

1. If it happened in Rosengard Malmo, then it is very likely that the victim is also an immigrant girl.

2. Immigrant girls deserve safety and respect as much as native Swedish girls. The severity of the punishment should not depend on the ethnicity of the victim.

3. A senior falling off a bed in a hospital and passing away makes it to the frontpage on local.se website and yet a girl sexually harassed by 4 boys do not make it at all on this website.

4. Regarding the punishment. Yes, castration and deportation should be required. If they want to come and live in Sweden they should respect the Swedish culture and law.
16:39 September 11, 2012 by marshalstan
Funny how the people posting are not swede.. yet have opinions on how things should be run here.. what are you doing here to begin with?
17:25 September 11, 2012 by Samuel Nemalladinne
@ marshalstan : FYI we are temporary residents(students, employess) and we are shocked to see these things happening and feels so funny how 'most' not everyone have no balls to speak up and rather prefer to discuss this only in the bedroom maybe ??
17:52 September 11, 2012 by Erefus
Why does Expo keep getting cited as a credible news source? The Local might as well start citing Proletären, SAC Syndikalisterna or the likes.

The difference between science and pseudo-science is that science gathers all the facts and makes a conclusion based on those facts, meanwhile pseudo-science already have the conclusion and gathers the "facts" that supports their conclusion.

In Sweden we have pseudo-journalism. Journalists who report based on the conclusion rather than objective reality.
18:07 September 11, 2012 by rise
#7

BALLS!! See, I dared speaking up! :P
18:49 September 11, 2012 by Svensksmith
If the perpatrators of said crime had raped my daughters, I would be tempted to take the matters into my own hands... so to speak. But, truth be told, there is no place in civilized society for vigilante justice. Nor should chopping off of body parts like hands, head, or genitals be allowed. If a young man is falsely accused and later found innocent, it is kind of hard to just give him his balls back.
19:43 September 11, 2012 by Emerentia
If a girl gets raped there are always guys who say 1) It must have been an immigrant who did it! Find him, castrate him, hang him/deport him! 2) It wasn't an immigrant? Are you really sure? He must have been, maybe his parents or grandparents were immigrants then? No? Strange, was it really a Swede. A real Swede? It was...well, then it wasn't rape, not really the girl wanted it, she just changed her mind and calling it rape when it wasnt!

I think that they would change their mind about this weird castration law if it their testicles were to be chopped of. Or their fathers, brothers or best friends. Then it would be somebody elses fault, the girl they raped or the feminists or something like that.
21:26 September 11, 2012 by djmarko
If a teenager commits a crime like rape, they should be tried like adults and sentenced to at least 20 years and put on a sex offender list for life!!
23:18 September 11, 2012 by prince T
If the law will apply to everyone dat commit sexuall offence including paedofile, i am all for sd law.
00:16 September 12, 2012 by Uncle
Emerentia

ANd you are basing your statements on what exactly? Do you have any statistics in regards to ethnic swedes who avoid punishment vs the poor little immigrants who do not?

Also, are you 100% sure that the 4 boys on Rosengård playground WERE NOT immigrants? Also would you think that the discussion of deportation above suggests that these were swedes? Mmm. Interesting.

Bottom line - the entire speech is a pile of nonsense, unless proven otherwise by facts.
08:05 September 12, 2012 by Tiny Red Ant
Castration is an utter silly idea. However, when people allow their passions dictate their opinion rather thinking rationally, then it is not unexpected. The argument for 2,3 degree of separation for punishment of crime is irrational.

Whatever exactly happened should be determined by a complete police investigation and the appropriate punishment determined by the courts. These where all children so it is doubtful that they don't even know what they did was wrong. However, they should not avoid rehabilitation or punishment because of their age.
10:39 September 12, 2012 by Emerentia
@Uncle I'm basing this on hearing and reading a lot of discussions about rape. It's almost always the same, if a immigrant has committed rape he's guilty in their minds, if a swedish guy committed has rape the girl changed his mind/set him up/it wasn't really raping etc. I wasn't talking about statistics about who avoid punishment, I was talking about the attitude againt rape among a lot of guys. How they gang up on the rapists side, if he's Swedish, against the raped girl. And how they don't if he's an immigrant.

I have no idea if the 4 boys were immigrants or not, but one could guess that they probably were since most of the people living in Rosengård are. I don't think the same cries about castration would have been there if the SD-politician didn't think that the boys were immigrants. If it had been a playground in a neighbourhood were most people are Swedish, and the boys would have been Swedish, their own sons, I don't think they would have said anything about castrating them. Then it would be more like "There was just some kids playing, you know, boys will be boys, kids that age is curious, the girl might have been tempting them etc".
11:09 September 12, 2012 by Iraniboy
The main problem with SDs is that they don't think, behave and act like typical Swedes yet they demand non-Swedes to think, behave and act like typical Swedes!!!
14:37 September 12, 2012 by Uncle
Emerentia

So you are basing it on personal feelings and impressions, rather than a real debate on SVT, a research or some statistical data... Because PERSONALLY I do not recall when some people in media or in "insändare" or in this forum, called a group rape performed by a gang of swedes "curiosity game" or blamed the girl. If I am mistaken, please direct me towards a source. Thank you.

To be exact I do not recall of any gang rape performed by raging group of Svenssons and Axelssons in a public place... but let's leave that. After all, it is a "cultural perk" of our guests in Sweden and we should be tolerant towards it. And some here (like the one poser above this post) would be happy to actually start blaming the Swedish society that "did not accept these youngsters" and therefore they have no other choice but rape children who happen to be on the street.

The fact of the matter is that a girl in Sweden is 4 times more likely to be raped by an immigrant than by a swede. As Belgian journalist proved that it is IMPOSSIBLE to walk in the streets of Brussels as a woman without being constantly harassed by country guests (9 out of ten harassing comments were made with an accent).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/03/belgium-film-street-harassment-sofie-peeters

What is also amazing is that women are in their majority leftist and are statistically more likely to support immigration from the 3rd world.

So I suggest that women do some statistical research SOMETIMES, because this behavior definitely does not make any sense.
01:04 September 13, 2012 by Richard Head
Everyone should watch the video in that link that Uncle posted. That is, unless you want to keep your head buried in the sand and/or you could care less about women.
05:40 September 14, 2012 by Not Dumb
Uh, if we're going to play the game that it's just the immigrants violating women, not any Swedes, read comment number 11 by Emerentia, and take a look at The Local's article below. When a Swede rapes a girl, why is it 'the girl's fault'...

Girl raped and rejected by Swedish community

http://www.thelocal.se/25750/20100326/

Hey, there's idiot dirtbags in every group and culture, but the racism on these pages is often 'truly special'. And, that's all I have to say, punkt slut!
19:58 September 14, 2012 by tadchem
Back to Square One:

Is the objective of Swedish justice

(A) to punish perpetrators,

(B) to gratify authoritarian officials,

(C) to exact vengeance, or

(D) to protect innocent people?
13:08 September 15, 2012 by tetrahedron
Firstly, we do not know whether the young boys were Swedes or immigrants so it is wrong to make an assumption. Secondly, the case should be fully discussed in court before any decisions are made. Thirdly, although I would be in favour of much stiffer sentences for adult paedophiles, I think that the boys' ages should be taken into account. The idea that a 12-year-old boy could be castrated fills me with horror and I would hope that most people wouldn't take such an idea seriously. Fourthly, we don't know how serious the abuse was. Was it rape or was it just a bit of touching? I think that all these factors should be taken into account. Of course, no-one should be let off lightly for any serious sexual offence but I wouldn't go too far. I was sexually abused myself as a teenager but I would still say that castratioin is worse than rape.
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