March 19, 2010
Published: 5 Jul 09 10:16 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/20468/20090705/
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A police officer has been re-assigned and reported for making insulting gestures with his middle finger at youths in the suburb of Rosengård in Malmö.
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You're rapin' me of my pride
Oh, for God's sake
I look to heaven to fulfill its prophecy...
Set me free
I personally would never want to work as a cop in that neighbourhood, they talk of the tense relations between the youths and the cops, why is that then? Search for Rosengård on this web site. You will not find anything positive.
I do not defend the police officers actions, but there is more to this. The officer in question may just have been to the end of his wick, and having to deal with uncooperative youths who really do not care, I can't blame him.
i dont justify him, but i cannot blame him.
Rosengård is a place where many youths throw stones to cars just for the fun of it. in order to stop a fight the police has to send even three cars, one to take care of the matter and the other two to take care of themselves.
it would be nice to offer each of this idiots a considerable sum of money so they can leave sweden.
Times are changing, segregation is increasing, and talk of this around the common Swedes dinner table is elevating. If something is not done about this soon, the path will be laid out for Sharia becoming the basic law in Sweden. I can guarantee that there are people who have proposals for this in the area mentioned today. They will justify it by "a way to appease the conflict" and it will eventually be ratified.
Was it the youths or the colleagues for whom the finger was intended? Folk are becoming too sensitive. Sounds like it was just good natured fun.
Somewhere along the line the media have got things back to front, probably to avoid tackling the real issue. The problem is not that members of the police force sometimes overstep the mark with gestures or words. For this the culprits should be punished but these actions should be seen as being a small aspect of the greater problem which the media (+ mainstream politicians) are all too often scared to address i.e. that certain parts of Sweden are drifting towards a potentially catastrophic breakdown in law and order.
It is the unwillingness to take on and openly discuss the complicated mix of deprivation, crime, racism, poorly directed immigration o.s.v. which is allowing the Sverige Democrats to gain support.
I've long been a supporter of immigration, not least since Sweden needs more immigrants to pay future pensions. However, the way its been handled over the past twenty years has been cack-handed at best.
The Govt like Nero is fiddling while the country is smouldering and the fuse is getting shorter.
There could be increasing problems in immigrant areas as the recession bites harder.
There are rapidly worsening problems with Swedish youth with their increasing disregard of authority.
The Govt is content to bury its head in the sand, while the obviously frustrated police with their limited powers seem pretty well helpless, in addition to possibly lacking the will to take any firm action.
OK, we have seen worse in the UK,but in many areas such as low tolerance zones, things have improved, and at least some positive action is being taken.
As one example, the footie yobs no longer rule the stadiums and surrounding areas in the UK with only minor disturbances in relation to the large attendances.
The same problem exists on a smaller scale in Sweden, yet is allowed to continue, despite the know-how and equipment being readily available to sort it.
Lets just hope that the powers that be, wake up fairly soon.
I think the youth should be beaten badly. Like the way they would be beaten in their native country where their parents came from originally.
Police here are good. They treat everyone well. Those are adults. The youth is grown up. They should be rather jailed prison.
Let the youth go to their own country for justice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKJZ2d3VQK0...ature=topvideos
To all of you who express your hatred on Islam, I wonder how much do you really know about religion since it is something that is somehow virtual in Sweden. We all know that most Swedes do not have any religion. The so called minorities are special because they have a history - they came from somewhere ,What do you have apart from celebrating the same things every year?They have a story to tell about their real lifes to generations and gnenerations thats why they are closer togather swedes are not unless they know you and the excuse given most of the time is we are reserved!
Anyway the point is the more you become obssessed with minorities or muslims existance in sweden the stronger you make them.It gives them the courage and motives to fight you more and get to know you better .
Peropaco, the Jewboy!
It is sad that in some countries woman is treated and valued 100 times more than a man. If a woman dies all care. But if a man dies they give less importance or just neglect.
They mention youth...Youth is not children.
What is youth? they are the ones who make disturbance. Their parents are good and humble. I am sure.
It tooked 800 years of war to finally get rid of them.
You must look at Islam not as a religion but as Stuar put it , it is a cult and religion controls absolutely everything .
In our societies we have our religion ( wich is personal ) and the goverment wich is independent from any religion.
Islam is the opposite, they are the goverment.
One example : if you are muslim and wants to became a Budist, christian under the Coran law you will be killed in some countries.
I see no problem saying I find a religion and its expressions appalling – just as I must be free to like or dislike political schools.
This said: being a Muslim, Christian, Nazi or Jew doesn’t make a person less a human. It is the standpoint they have taken, the way they choose to behave, that everybody must be free to criticize.
The christian girls who have muslim boyfriends support Islam. But, I treat them like if they talk about religion. They think others do not understand Islam well.
The point here is the youth are matured enough to integrate into swedish society. They are free to escape from sweden and apply as refugees in outside of EU.
In western countries, laws regarding women for example, were more archaic than Sharia law till very recently. France only caught up in the 1960's. It is even said that English common law was based on Sharia, brought over by the Normans.
The unfortunate thing here is it has not changed in centuries, and we live in a different time. In one case in Yemen, a husband was paid compensation when his ten year-old bride requested a divorce after being repeatedly raped and beaten. Even a hint of that ideology in our society needs to be stamped out.
I have no problem with the people, it is the ideology that is the problem. And to bengson, I myself am a minority here, and saying that calling someone a minority is racist, then you are just another part of the problem, using that word to gain political and social clout.
(cont...)
Several non-muslim states and organizations have adopted Islamic laws and systems. Well its a long discussion and can take days and days but rite now plz take a look:
Christian scholar George Geordac comments:
“There is nothing the in the United Nation Human Rights declaration except that you would find its equivalent in the constitution of Ali ibn Abi Taleb, but then you would find in his constitution greater values and of higher essence.”
Kofi Annan, the UN secretary states:
“The words of Ali ibn Abi Talib, ‘O Malik! The people are either brothers in religion or your equal in creation’ must be adhered to by all organisations and it is a statement that all humanity must embrace.”
After a few months, Annan suggested that the document of Imam Ali must be considered from the legal viewpoint, and after lengthy studies and considerations by the UN Legal Committee, member states voted that the document should be considered as one of the sources of International Law.
May God Almighty guide and bless all of us,
Peace
Saad
As an aside I have noticed there are a proportion of people who rant constantly about Islam and another proportion who get wound up by it and rant back. Consequently I think there is a tendency to miss the point which in this case is the action of a very stupid police officer.
Is Islam a club or political party? How can you "be out of Islam." Either you believe in the religion or not. If you do believe in it you're a muslim.
You sure you don't mean religion in non-plural? What other religions are disgraced by people's actions? We may have Christian pedophiles but they don't commit pedophilia in the name of Christianity, do they? Islam has a bad reputation because so many people kill in the name of Islam. So yeah, good luck with that.
http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/polisen-jobbar-treskift-for-att-halla-lugnt-i-rosengard-1.905412
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/07/overtime-in-rosengard.html#readfurther
Things are so messed up my friends... its not the time to make them worst we should try to talk to each other and sort them out instead... without being biased.
Peace
* happens*
It's not a generous country like EU or sweden to just neglect things easily. It's like a nightmare for Muslims in China. I really feel sorry for them as they can do nothing and cannot make disturbances.
I saw in bus some immigrant kids were saying in bus. Fy fan polis. They saw some cars going today in city too many. Why would children say like that? Because the youth talk bad about polis so their younger brothers follow. Immigrant fathers are good and they just live their life humbly. But youth are racists.
A quote from an 1899 book by Winston Churchill, "The River War", in which he describes Muslims he apparently observed during Kitchener's campaign in the Sudan
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.