Published: 8 Jul 09 16:13 CET | Print version
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British author Andrew Brown talks to James Savage about living in Sweden in the seventies, fishing, and how immigration has changed the country.
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One thing that presages a gradual disappearance of real Nordic culture is the fact that a majority of popular songs are now sung in American English. Tragic.
The vast majority of the people in Miami are bilingual, Anglo and Latino. Public schools in Miami and Dade County operate in both Spanish and English. Latinos will *pretend* that they do not speak English, in order to annoy anyone whom they perceive to be a racist redneck. Get some manners, and you will be surprised how many of us down here can be friendly and helpful.
With regard to Sweden, it will be interesting to see how things change as capital mobility and very inexpensive telecommunications deprive the Swedish state of the tax revenues needed to maintain its generous social welfare system.
Canada had a two hundred year history of immigration that built the country, so I've never understood why Sweden would just all of a sudden declare itself "multi-cultural" when it was a homogeneous country of mostly one race, language and religion and no history of colonial expansion. If you're going to open the doors to outsiders then pick people who are likely to fit easily into the mainstream culture. Sweden clearly has not done that.
Note to you Americans infatuated with Hope and Change, observe Sweden closely and ask if this would be good for the country.
i somehow can relate, but my first stay in sweden was not long ago and the country was already ruined compared to what my granfather would tell.
inmigration can be good , if you pick the correct subjects. off course sweden did the oposit.
I agree that this does add fuel to the nationalist flame, but there is nothing stopping the government from dealing proper punishment to these hooligans while at the same time righting the ship by ramping up measure preventing the watering down of Swedish life to fit the immigrants imported views/assimilation rejection at the same time. It's a golden opportunity if you as me.
I have an Iraqi friend, he is a doctor lives in Boden, he has been waiting for the residence since 1 year, during this period he finished the Swedish language courses and practicing in a hospital in Luleå, the people who are working in that hospital always encouraging him and show him their admire and respect for his serious intentions to live and work in Sweden, they even call the migration board several times to persuade them to grant him the residency, but what did the migration board do? they refused his application to get the residency and he is waiting to get back to Iraq. The strange thing is what kind of people the migration board wants?
When that comes to pass he was hopeful that the kindness would be repayed to the minority native Swedes.
If or when that will happen I know not and surprisingly I dont hear it mentioned very much, but surely it must be of great concern to those natives who do care about the future of Swedish traditions,language and all the rest.
Too different cultures are hard to handle. You can make people eat Max Burger, Wearing "cheap monday". But what you can't change is people's value. Many alien cultures put focus on other things than what the indigenous swedes believe. In certain cultures, people simply prioritize replication as an agenda for achieving its Holy agenda, while others see Sweden as a paradise for their ambtions since it is usually much harder to make it in their home country.
... "this is as good as it gets and that's good enough for me", conformity in food, clothes, thought, etc... An inability or unwillingness to communicate in depth, as not to offend or test.
when I see someone not seen in 10 years and their human "condition" is the same, it depresses me. By "condition" I mean their internal spark, their drive, that special something that makes you unique.
Sweden is a great summer visit. Unfortunately, the Swedish "model" seems to dissolve the human spirit.
you're an imigrant that has beneifitted from the Swedish model, good on you
native Swedes however act like they're on valium or dope, like sheep, it's a crumbling society held together by government solutions
a society that's prime for someone with the next big idea
Fishing in Utopia is not only about immigration and political policy, it also accounts Brown's love/hate relationship with a country, like many others, that must brace itself in the wake of globalisation - it's a fascinating read.
(Oh and not every post on TL is an attack :D )
you have a very beautiful country, with a history you can be proud of.
I do understand the deficiencies, namely, the unbridled capitalism has been undermining you system from withing and slowly rotting it. That's the most striking obsevation that I have found and thet is my greatest concern and my utmost fear about your future.
BTW, many of you, the natives, might not appreciate the ingenious workings of your system, until you actually get out of your country, at least for a while.
Indeed, as in the whole of Scandinavia, the effect of the Jante Law is omnipresent, but if you have a collectivist mentality, like perhaps most of the Scandinavians do, then you'll not just be able to put up with it, but you will actually adore it and fully embrace it.
In the UK there are encouraging signs with regard to integration in lots of places and many have fitted in well with the British lifestyle.
Yes there are areas where it is not so good and no doubt much more still needs to be done, but in Sweden they have not even begun to face up to the integration problem, but there again facing problems head on here seems to be something to be avoided at all costs.