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Scientologists reported for harassing Swedish family

Published: 28 Jul 09 09:19 CET | Double click on a word to get a translation
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/20948/20090728/

A family from Kävlinge in southern Sweden has reported the local Church of Scientology to the police for harassment after a fortnight of incessant phone calls, local newspaper Sydsvenskan reports.

The Church of Scientology in Malmö began ringing the family around two weeks ago as part of a drive to update their contact information over current and former members.

The religious sect first rang asking to talk to a woman that, according to their records, had attended a self-realization course in the 1980s.

But it turned out to be case of mistaken identity and the church was duly informed.

However since that initial contact the sect has called the family's phones on more than 70 occasions.

Despite repeated requests to stop harassing them, the calls have continued unabated.

A letter even arrived from the church last Thursday apologizing for the calls, explained the circumstances, and conceded the case of mistaken identity.

But still the calls continued.

The Kävlinge family finally had enough and decided to report the matter to the police.

"If this is true then it is very regrettable. We are busy updating our large database of members in Sweden and there must have been a mix up," a spokesperson for the Church of Scientology in Malmö told The Local on Tuesday.

The Church of Scientology is a new religious movement founded in 1954 and is based on the writings of US science fiction writer L.Ron Hubbard.

The movement has been established in Sweden for 40 years and has been registered as a religious community (trossamfund) since 2000.

In November 2008 the group completed the 50 million kronor ($6.8 million) purchase of sugar firm Danisco's former head office in Malmö suburb Arlöv as their new base in southern Sweden.

Peter Vinthagen Simpson (news@thelocal.se/+46 8 656 6518)

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12:02 July 28, 2009 by Britswedeguy
A friend of mine in Oslo was almost lured into Scientology, she's recovering from being bed-ridden for years with M.E. and was tricked into paying thousands of kronor for books of their ridiculous pseudo-scientific hogwash.

After she tried to quit them she was bombarded with phone calls from across the globe - years later these calls are only just starting to abate.
13:24 July 28, 2009 by Kemi
"...We are busy updating our large database of members in Sweden..."

"However since that initial contact the sect has called the family's phones on more than 70 occasions."

Doesn't sound like they are very busy at all. Just how many are there in this "large database of members"? 5? And they are all busy calling the same one family! They are so messed up in the head, not even good at lying, pathetic.
13:43 July 28, 2009 by zircon
Creepy stuff... Free Masons are a much better choice. At least you get blindfolded, when 'dumped'...
15:02 July 28, 2009 by Aussie_Downunder
Money hungry bastards...
15:32 July 28, 2009 by Nemesis
70 calls is not accidental. The police need to take a very close look at this. This sounds like deliberate harrassment to me. I have seen the religeous harrass people, then lie through there teeth when caught. Once they start, they never stop.

I can not believe that people follow Ron Hubard or the special status given to satanic-christian-judeo-islamic belief sytems and other methods of controlling populations.

These groups should have no special tax exemptions and should be treated as exactly what they are, commercial organisations. They need to be audited and taxed out of existence and laws passed against indoctrination.
18:18 July 28, 2009 by jose_s
A letter even arrived from the church last Thursday apologizing for the calls, explained the circumstances, and conceded the case of mistaken identity.

But still the calls continued......

lol..... I am staying in Hollywood now for a month and there is an office here practically every other corner offering free stress and personality tests......
20:58 July 28, 2009 by Pengrass
A similar thing happened to a friend of mine, in the U.S., about 6 months ago. They called to update his address, especially physical mailing address. (They wanted to send the DVD touting the new REVISED basic books, that Miscavige has edited out the typos etc.)

He had taken one course, over twenty years before, and at that time saw it as a money sucking mind control scam he wanted nothing to do with. He hadn't received any mail for them in decades.

Google "Xenu" for more information about Scientology's criminal history.

Although he tried to be polite on the phone, he didn't want to get their junk mail again, since when he finished his course those years before, he had a great deal of difficulty getting them to stop calling. He'd hang up on them and they'd call right back.

He has a service that allows him to block numbers, which he'd never used before and finally he started doing that, after he'd gotten about a dozen calls in two weeks.

I made a typo. I'll issue my revised addition, for free! I meant to write that the first time he quit Scientology, after the one course, they wouldn't stop mailing him junk, even AFTER he requested that they stop mailing him stuff.

Finally, he go them to stop by going in and making a scene about it.

Anyway, this recent time when the calls began, he was creeped out by it all and just wanted them to stop calling, and never mail him anything again, but part of their persistence was probably that they didn't have his correct mailing address, and the garbage they were trying to mail, was getting sent back.

Scientology operates under more than 100 different front groups with names like: Narconon, WISE, Applied Scholastics and Crimanon. Avoid everything having to do with them, and report harassing calls to the police

Moderator Note: Posts Merged /MK
21:00 July 28, 2009 by BillyB
Those pesky Thetans....
22:46 July 28, 2009 by realetybytes
So people who follow a crazy science-fiction writers made-up religion are given legitimacy by your government? If you have freedom of religion there, just shun them. If not, stop letting them operate. Does your country allow you to defend yourself? They are a dangerous cult. Protect your children form them BY ANY MEANS AT HAND. Should they approach you, doing violence to them is appropriate, as they are out to harm you.
11:59 July 29, 2009 by martell
Scientology is NOT a church but a brainwashing cult.

Outlaw them, finally.
12:33 July 29, 2009 by Miss Kitten
Keep in mind that all religions started out as dangerous cults. Scientology is just another religion based on a book. It hasn't been around as long as Christianity and the Bible, but it's no more or less weird than the stories upon which the established religions are based.

Can someone explain why people are willing to accept that a man was transformed into a pillar of salt and a woman was created from a man's rib, but at the same time think that the idea that we contain the souls of aliens is crazy?

As for the family being harassed, I don't know why they put up with it for as long as they did. I would have changed my phone number after the 12th call.
13:18 July 29, 2009 by Craptastical
For those who don't know much about why so many have major problems with Scientology, you may want to take a look at this website: Operation Clambake

IMHO anything which requires the individual pay to take tests in order to move up their foodchain is not a religion. IMHO it's a pyramid scheme pretending to be a religion.
14:01 July 29, 2009 by Pengrass
"Miss Kitten" is obviously a member of Scientology's OSA (Office of Special Affairs), which is Scientology's intelligence service, which among other things, has people assigned to respond to critical articles about Scientology. Even when Scientology kills someone, as they did Lisa McPherson, it is NEVER their fault.

"Miss Kitten," being a brainwashed cult member who probably lives in a cult compound, does not realize that in the real world a change of phone number, not only costs quite a bit of money, it is also a chore to go through, having to change, business cards, and telling dozens of people about the change.

Scientology practices the "hard sell." They are trained to bully and intimidate. What other "religion" charges hundreds of thousands of dollars, just to learn their basic theology: (Xenu) If you are vulnerable enough to take one Scientology course, they feel like they own you.
14:18 July 29, 2009 by Miss Kitten
Oh ..was it really that obvious?

I guess I'm in big trouble now...
14:22 July 29, 2009 by VikingHumpingWitch
Hey lady, if you're just breaking out of the compound to get me to sit one of those "what personality type are you - oh it turns out you're exactly the sort of personality that would really benefit from our Scientology programme" tests then drinks on Thursday are off.
14:36 July 29, 2009 by Miss Kitten
Can I call your house 70 times instead?
14:53 July 29, 2009 by Princess P
I knew there was something very fishy about Miss Kitten on curry night. Pheww what a lucky escape we all had.
14:59 July 29, 2009 by Miss Kitten
Don't kid yourselves. We know where to find you. I inserted tracking devices into the linings of all of your coats when you weren't looking.
15:01 July 29, 2009 by VikingHumpingWitch
That was back in winter, your tracking device will simply lead you to my coat rack and you already know where that is.

<punches fist in air to commemorate getting one over that bunch of cults>
15:02 July 29, 2009 by Princess P
And mine is in the first carriage of the Goteborg to Stockholm 11.25 choochoo.
15:06 July 29, 2009 by Miss Kitten
We've also bugged your phone. I might as well tell you that were were planning on abducting your cat and holding her until you submit to a personality test, but you seem to be onto us so we promise not to kidnap her if you send us a small donation.
15:08 July 29, 2009 by VikingHumpingWitch
Actually I'd love someone to do a personality test on my cat. God knows what it'd throw up, but for sure she isn't normal.
15:10 July 29, 2009 by Miss Kitten
I'm sure an expensive Scientology course is just what she needs. After all it helped cure me of dyslexia and herpes.
15:12 July 29, 2009 by alexxxx
For an excellent - and chilling - account of how Scientology works, check out: http://counterfeitdreams.blogspot.com/2008/08/introduction.html
15:50 July 29, 2009 by farnoxo
Maybe all Scientologists should be forced to read some of L. Ron Hubbard's dreadful books and watch the even more dreadful film "Battlefield Earth". Maybe then they will realise what a crackpot he is!
15:52 July 29, 2009 by The Ronbot Hunter
To know if a cult is or isn't a religion you must go to what they claim or require you to sign.

The fact is that full and complete disclosure is always lacking in any Scientology contract.

Here is just .oo1 percent of the stuff you are not told.

LRH used God's Natural laws to make slaves of mankind!

"So long as a physiological phenomenon remains the knowledge of a few and is denied to the many it can be utilized to control the many." LRH (from Journal of Scientology Issue 4-G from Oct. 1952)

"This universe has long been looking for new ways to make slaves. Well, we've got some new ways to make slaves here." LRH (from PDC tape lecture #20 "Formative State of Scientology, Definition of Logic", given on 6 Dec 52)

"All men shall be my slaves! LRH

All women shall submit to my charms! LRH
16:29 July 29, 2009 by dave.smith
Can Scientology cure my lazy employees and help me learn Swedish faster?
16:57 July 29, 2009 by Pengrass
In Scandinavia, and other foreign countries, Scientology has capitalized on the allure of American culture in general. People assume that because super wealthy actors like Cruise and Travolta are Scientologists, that it must mean Scientology works. It does work. It works at brainwashing people, especially vulnerable, uneducated people.

Cruise, Travota and the leader of Scientology David Miscavige, are all high school dropouts.

Yet, Scientology has a major program called Applied Scholastics that appears to be about how to learn effectively, to be a scholar. Forget about college. Scientology wants you to spend 100% of your time climbing their loon bridge to "total freedom," with their courses.

The cult is disintegrating now, and Scientology phone zombies, are held responsible for their statistics. They fail, when they can't get a person back into Scientology, or when they can't get your correct address to bombard you with propaganda.
17:13 July 29, 2009 by Miss Kitten
Surely you aren't suggesting that Tom Cruise and John Travolva are merely vapid celebrities? And here I thought their opinions were worth more because they make more money than any of us...
11:22 July 30, 2009 by Nemesis
Dave Smith.

I am a hard worker. Fire one of your workers and give me a job.

You can give me work instructions in English.
16:55 July 30, 2009 by Craptastical
Usually attention to detail* is important in an IT company.

I don't think you stand a chance

* You posted in the wrong thread
16:59 July 30, 2009 by Plowbridge H. Broad
At least it wasn't posted in the circumcision thread.
23:49 July 30, 2009 by Sensiblenick
I've got a close friend who left this dangerous cult (and took her family with her) after discovering exactly how nuts the entire thing was.

http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/quotes-by-and-about-hubbard.htm Read here about the founder of scientology.. the quotes are stunning. The guy was a serious idiot.

Scientology: A tax on stupidity.

Oh... and It's not a religion: The founder said so himself many times. (Until he discovered the tax breaks)

The only way to control people is to lie to them. L Ron Hubbard
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