February 14, 2012
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This summer, for the inevitable trip back to the UK, Ben Kersley was determined to avoid air travel and attempt to recapture the lost art of travel.
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Memories of more innocent times.
The previous UK - Sweden route vessels were far better. Swimming pools, sauna and cinema available.
Sweden's loss is Denmark's gain! Although I confess to a number of recent day trips from Helsingor to Helsingborg, to enjoy some fascinating scenary and shopping opportunities! I've almost finished last year's 10 Kg. of Zoegas coffee - roasted in Helsingborg, aromising the Helsingborg atmosphere and available on offer in the local supermarkets at silly prices in summer for a highly recommended product!
If DFDS were to open up the Gothenburg route again I would book it for my summer holiday...have trends/interests really changed so much...these ferries used to be full of Brits and Scandinavians every summer!
The 7hr journey is more a express trip, but for the money, it can't be beat.
Oh yes and if you really want to go by ferry to Scotland you'll have to go via Lerwick (yes via the Shetland isles!)
I found some ferry information including maps at www.aferry.co.uk
I believe it is also necessary to seperate security considerations from airline requirements, something I repeatedly see Ryanair- bashers unable to do.
Living in Dalsland I cannot take seriously a suggestion that I travel to Denmark instead of the cosy Gothenburg City airport.
Over 20 years I have flown and 'ferried' between Uk and Scandinavia and both systems have their positive and negative aspects.
(PS. I am not an employee/shareholder/investor in any airline or shipping company)
I've taken ferries from Go'burg to Harwich, Go'burg to Newcastle via Norway, Esbjerg to Harwich, Hoek van Holland to Harwich on the 'worlds biggest passenger hydrofoil' etc etc
but now it's just down to the Esbjerg route which is a fairly basic boat ... and costs a few quid to get to over the Danish bridges etc
even the dutch route is just slow ferries now, primarily for truckers ...
great shame ... the extra cost used to be covered by deals with fellow expats to bring stuff to or from from the UK ...
best to just drive to France and hop on a cross-channel ferry ... at least you get to stock up on french wine etc on the way back
It makes no reference to the fact that it's more often than not rough as fjck sailing across the North Sea and a nice night's sleep is a rarity!
http://www.dfdstorline.com/DfdsTorLine/EN/...tionUnpublished
Hook of Holland to Harwich with Stena Line is a fixed price of £26 or £54 with a cabin overnight, and a very modern ship.
...But as someone said do the ferry journey for the fun of it, unless you have a motion sensitive vestibular system Mr Cantona :-)
I'm guessing that taking our own car + ferry would work out cheaper than taking flights and hiring. Anyone? Bueller?
Isn't this the law that it must be so even?
Or is it the big scary bull-dyke stereotype trucker women that scare you
I heard a couple of stories of errors resulting in mixed accomodation.
Tried it a couple of times, but it was definitely worth paying the extra to move upstairs.
First time I had a Hells Angel,a big African guy and Ben Ladins double for company.
Second time I was joined by a couple with a dog which they tried to hide under the sheets for the full trip,...which was totally illegal on the G'burg run.
I think they must have given it a few knock out drops to keep it quiet.
Better sleep with one eye open Princess!...
There weren't actually very many lorry drivers on the ship. Most of the freight is containers and lorry trailers only. On our two sailings, there were only about half a dozen drivers and enough cabins that no-one had to share. The food is superb by the way (the same chef cooks for the drivers and the dfds staff), and it's quite an informal buffet kind of arrangement.
Other than that there's bugger all to do, but watch some telly or put your feet up and read a good book. We took a laptop and some DVDs as well. It was actually quite relaxing to have a day were you have no choice but to chill out and relax - although we were very lucky to have potentially the calmest weather the North Sea has ever seen!
anyone got a link to some ferrys.
cheers joe
I have looked into many ways of making the trip from Sweden to London, but my conclusion is always the same. We live in a day where time is money, the longer it takes to travel the more frustrating it is.
I flew with BA from Heathrow to Arlanda last week. There was no difference with waiting to go through the gate, waiting to go onboard, waiting to find my seat and waiting to get off the plane. So if being treated like 'cattle' exists then it does not really matter which airline you fly with.
I would also like to mention also that I recently booked 3 sets of return tickets with Ryan Air from Stockholm - London. All taxes and fees for 6 SEK! How? Look out for Ryan Air's 1 SEK each way tickets on the Ryan Air website, Book with visa electron, do not check in luggage and say no to any extras.
There is no argument with the Skavsta / Arlanda dispute either, the flygbuss costs the same and if you do want to take the Arlanda Express then you have to pay twice as much if you are over 26.
In conclusion, the ferry takes in total 3 days more of travelling which means 3 days less holiday. The ferry ,with transfers, costs at least 4 times as much, flying, with transfers, flying is still the safest and quickest way to travel, the view is better from an plane than a ferry.
Exactly how good is the view from a ferry terminal?
We have flown a few times but the cost of hire cars can be pretty pricy - paid £300 last time for a weekend hire of a Renault Clio - and also have had trouble with transport of baby buggies (Ryan Air damaged one and BA lost it for 6 days)
- we have had a few rough crossings in the winter
- however some friends travelled Ryan Air and did not enjoy the experience of sleeping on the floor in Stanstead with young children when their flight was cancelled
Cost is usually the most important - however we do sometimes want the "trip" to be a part of the holiday as well - so in Summer (we actually got back last night!) we go by Car - over the bridge into Danmark, then the ferry from Rodby to Puttgarden (Germany - the border shop - yay!) and then drive down through Germany into Holland (Venlo), Belgium and then into France - to Calais get on the boat and sail to the UK. It's not that tiring and you don't have a lot of driving really, in fact you can stop off at attractions in Germany without too much bother.
It usually takes 3 days ... we stop off around Lubeck and the next day around the Koln area. With petrol (and food) - there and back with Ferries and bridge costs - it cost us about £650.
At Christmas we usually fly from Göteborg via Amsterdam or Copenhagen to Manchester .. this way is cheapest for us ... however we sometimes get the direct flight from Göteborg to Manchester with City Airline if the price is right.
I did do the ferry from Göteborg to Newcastle once - the year before DFDS stopped it! ... That was nice but a little boring ... and expensive!
I have friends in Immingham who can get us on the freight ferry - however it's not the most exciting journey and be expected to share ... so I always shy away from that.
I am always on the lookout for cheaper alternatives - I know flying to Prestwick or Stansted with Ryan Air is one but I just don't like them ...
Hej Hej,
Ross ...
We have had smooth crossings, so the weather which can't be influenced by the company would have to be left out of my judgement.
The food was good, the cabins comfortable - I particularly like the sofa bed arrangement with fully made up bed, and wish they sold them for houses! The kids adore the children's entertainer and his material is good - performance material and quality of giveaways (One plastic telescope kept my boy busy for the next three weeks of holiday!) but it is true that he is embittered. During the magic show he almost seems to be enjoying himself but the patter in between 'set pieces' is very self-depreciating and miserable. Still the kids enjoyed it and he kept their attention constantly.
It gives the driver a proper break and the children chance to run and play. I would recommend it.
If memory serves me (and sometimes it does) we would load up the car with clothes that needed to be dry-cleaned, and have that particular service performed in England which was ridiculously cheap back then.
On the return trip, the car would be filled with provisions purchased in London, ranging from butter to washing powder. I know it sounds crazy, but the price differentials between high-cost Sweden and cheapo England were so considerable that we liked to think we were actually making some money in the bargain 
In 2002 I could travel for £69 return. A bargain I hear you say. Indeed it was if you were prepared to lower your standards and share. A few years later these cabins were gone and replaced with single accommodation ones at three or four times the cost.
DFDS decided to close the route due to its inability to compete with the low cost airfares and at this time it was certainly true. I had decided myself to opt for Ryanair and fly out of Stanstead instead. However with the rising air prices this is no longer true and given the choice I would choose the ferry again. Its standards may have been basic but it had a warmth and charm about that no other airline could match.