March 21, 2010
Published: 21 Aug 09 11:41 CET
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Sweden's foreign minister Carl Bildt has rejected calls from Israel for the government to distance itself from an article in a national newspaper which claimed Israeli soldiers harvest the organs of dead Palestinians.
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This is not the first time stories of organ harvesting is coming up against the israelis, the question is this, how true or false is it?
Look at it from another perspective, some weeks ago, some rabbis in the US were arrested for organ trading, if they weren't arrested and the news just publishes, I guess we will be seeing exactly the same reaction
On a final note, not all jews or israelis are bad however, I'm particularly not happy with their conduct towards the palestinans.
More than 32 rabbis (Jews) in USA was arrested over kidney trafficking , I would ask the US government to check and investigate which Israeli sold their kidney? can they show us those Israelis who were selling their kidneys?
I believe a group of Mafia would be like 4 or 5 dealing human body trafficking but if they are more than 30 in US and how many would be in Israel?, then you need more kidneys. and of course you kill more Palestinian because US has big market for kidney .
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4700414.stm
Only one man was accused of selling kidneys, not 35.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/24/nyregion/24jersey.html?pagewanted=2&sq=Corruption%20Arrests&st=cse&scp=3
"Another man in Brooklyn, Levy-Izhak Rosenbaum, was accused of enticing vulnerable people to give up a kidney for $10,000 and then selling the organ for $160,000."
One should not cast guilt on Israel by inferring that arrests in the US for trafficking in human organs (presumably some rabbis were arrested in the process) imply Israeli complicity. That is for a court of law to determine.
The education system, achievements in technical fields telecommunication and automobiles , welfare society, protection of Human Rights as well as human lives and most importantly NOT harvesting the human organs, what not there to be proud of.
Simply, journalism and politics are 2 different areas, and if the government starts interfering with the press freedom, we will soon introduce censorship and fascism.
This Sweden, not USSR and Aftonbladet is not the old Pravda!
Unfortunately Lieberman, who, not surprisingly, is a ultra-nationalist far right leader, pretended to ignore this rule.
I am very sorry for the Israeli people for having a foreign minister so little interested in democratic rules.
Your comments show just one thing:
You are trying to create conflict between the minorities in Sweden and the Swedish people by your comments. This will never happen because the immigrants came to Sweden legally not as the Zionist immigrants in PALESTINE who stole the land of the others. And the main thing that the Swedish people respect the human rights that your country (ISRAEL) does not even hear about it.
PLEASE this is our country and we do not allow haters like you to interfere in our interior affairs we have government who knows its tasks.
If Sweden does not fit you then you are very welcome to be away from us.
P.S. Do not try to accuse me as anti-semitic or hater as PEOPLE LIKE YOU USUALLY DO cause it became so silly and old.
This argument is outrageous. Is no one truly concerned whether or not the accusations are true? What would be lost by conducting an official investigation? Moral high ground will most certainly be lost by refusing to conduct an investigation. Has Israel become a nation of the very same people who forced it's creation? I hate to say that, but the question remains...
Every healthy democracy need to protect itself - and I'm sorry lies in the media is NOT the healthy way .
The press has secondary very important duty - its to educate the nation with true facts = knolage of your generation - THIS IS YOUR REAL FACE !!!
IF you think that by publishing or/and not rejecting thouse lies will help you to keep the streets (muslems) quiet ... I'm looking forward to speek to you in few years when by low you will have to stop drinking your favorit wine , and meet your blond good looking dougter when she is fully covered with black "higab" .
Israel has alot of problems and you know it becouse of the accessibility
to the sad truth , on the other hand Sweeden is perfect in every thing and we all know this becouse of your systematic aducation to HIDE the sad truth !
Again I tell you it is not your business, you came here and did not like it so it is your problem do not let your hate to some ethnics gives you the right to interfere in the others affairs.
The gangs you are talking about can be europeans, russians, americans, arabs, asians, or from any origin. But you saw just arabs because you hate them and this is THE RACISM itself. Many Israeli people (who comment here) they show their racism against others and at the same time they complain that the others hates them.
By the way, I am blond and not racist as you claim here:
"By the way - the blonds are not really like you - they are racists hypocrites - they just don't show that!"
Really you are full of hate and racism.
As an Israeli Surgeon with no political affiliations, especially with Israel's current government, I would like to take this opportunity to express my utter contempt at these foolish and childlike accusations that puts me and my colleagues in a defensless position. The Swedish ambassador herself condemned the article, and Sweden's Foreign Office in the most ridiculous manner, portrayed her own Ambassador as expressing her ideas in response to Israel's public opinion - what nonsense!
I would advise Mr. Bildt to act with a little more dignity to the concious men of science in the medical field, and express himself with a bit more dignity. We are past the middle ages portrayed so well by Sweden's foremost film director Ingmar Bergman.
Dr. Asseo
Israel
The Swedish goverment will quickly pull any website attacking islam or the muslim religeon, yet will stand by obviously insane claims that are straight out of catholic europe, from before the reformation.
What next, are they going to give Ante Pavelic a posthumous human rights award or honour Hitler or Mengele.
I mean, what's the harm in conducting an investigation? I do not understand what the outrage is about, to be honest, but if the 'evidence' offered by the reporter, and his own accounts as a witness, are real, then I would expect any decent person to wish his/her own government to investigate.
James
1st-I guess you are blond-GO AND GET SOME HISTORY LESSON about the middle east but even befor that liitle of your own-SAMI ppl, do you know who are they & which human rights thy got from you-the holly sweedish !?
2nd-Thouse emigrants that came legaly to your land-did that becouse of very sad reality in the Muslem-Arab contries-in which for different opinion in good case they will get a bullet in each knee in worse case it will be like in Iraq/Iran/ Afganistan& even the poor Palestine.SO...they got there shelter in EU.....
and muslim minority is not the topic of discussion here (diverging the discussion, thats what you have been doing in all your posts here), I would just say, that you dont need to worry by me learning the shria law rather you should show some concern over the human rights violations of Palestinian people and it would better if you restrain from stirring the conflicts between majorities and minorities
Said that, I invite to reflect about:
1. One matter is to offend religion and traditions of people; I would not have shut down the website about anti Muhammad cartoons but I can understand the reasons why. And I would have expected the same reactions against accuses or insults to the entire Israeli people. In this case, it is just an article about a suspected crime of some soldiers and we read quite often about crimes committed by armies during wars.
2. I would expect a reaction against the newspaper but why asking the intervention of the government? this shows a very little respect about the freedom and responsibility of press. If you feel offended by that article, sue the newspaper, not make pressure on a democratic government.
I know the middle east more than you. I have masters degree in history and know the middle east well. I went to Lebanon, Jordan, and the west bank as volunteer with the red cross to help your victims in the Palestinian camps.
I saw how your army treats the palestinians in the west bank and how they treated us in the red cross. It reminded us of the Nazist and communist regimes during 40's and 50's.
And those immigrants here they are victims of wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, and others. Or victims of dictatorships worldwide.
By the way (According to the history) both the Arabs and Jews are Semitic. So be careful when you accuse the others, BECAUSE BEING ANTI-ARABS ALSO MEANS ANTI-SEMITICS...otherwise, look for another accusations.
About this news I will say, Well done Mr Bildt. Who the hell is Israel that they will impose orders on Swedish?
Also I am asking that Where are the Human Rights Champions Now after coming this disgraceful news about Israeli ? Where are they? What about their Human Rights now?
I am afraid that as the jewish first suck the blood of muslims and now they are looking for Europeans people by putting pressure on them in one or the other way.
To c9dw2rm8. Please do not divert readers from real issue and let me tell you there is nothing as you mentioned before. We all minorities respect swedish and their good attitude towards us. It is their own country and it will remain to them in a future also.
By the way give your comments on this news and not on grammer and sentences. But still I am thankful for your correction.
By the way, you stated in a previous post that it was a "fact" that Israeli and American people are blood suckers. Would you care to elaborate on this statement? Have you ever been to the US or Israel or met any real American or Israeli vampires? I'm just curious because I was born and raised in the US and never once met any vampires during my time there.
To all readers and to particulary c9dw2rm8. If you live here then also respect these people unless and untill they did not hit on your sensitive issues like ones religion...I hope you understand my point.
Also no body can take sweden from swedish, it is their country and it will also remain to them in the future. So please do not divert readers from real issue.
The thing is very simple that those who respect you, give them respect and Vice Versa . But generally speaking good and bad people are every where but most swedish people are very honest,humble and respected. So plz dont be so racist.
We have freedom. I do not know if its allowed in Israel to say anything. Proud of you Sweden
A known Professor in Ben-Gurion University in Beersheba, Israel, has described the situation there and he feels ashamed of that as any free Jew in the world (who are many actually).
Please check the following link from Los Angeles Times:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-gordon20-2009aug20,0,1126906.story
P.S. This shows that Aftonbladet has not MOST PROBABLY claimed the report and thus the report deserves investigation from the international organizations.
'Freedom' of press'..not!
there are afew people here who call others idiot.kind of people who support israel and can not accept any thing others say against israel.dear friends you accept or not please dont insult people.prove if people are wrong ? i mean if you can. be human in full meaning.
If the concerned citizens do not follow this to happen, then diplomats are going to succeed again as almost always, in manipulating away an issue:
A man slaughter industry
Are you really so innocent that you really dont know what is happening in this world all around? Or just because you born in america and thats why you fill up the space with such comments?
If you want to see the US and Israeli vampires, just open your eyes or visit Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Palestine and lot of others....
The war is not only fought by soldiers but also by policy makers, in all such cases, these 2 countries are responsible for invading most of the countries all over the world.
And last but not the least, Did you know with what your people come to an end...? Yes for your information let me reminded you, '' I destroy your country and kill millions of innocent people but SORRY I did not find any weapons of mass destruction''. Lolllllllllllllllllllzzzzzzzzzzz
I refuse to accept the zionist pretence to represent the Jewish people.
This artical indeed is tainted with antisemitism if it can not prove its claims.
I would like to see some sort of cooperation or movement in Sweden which entails Jews, Arabs,Swedes and people of all nations that work together to promote and lay foundations for a possible future Palestinian Israeli society, confederation,state and so on. Built on principles of Social justice, Democracy and peace and advocate all nations trying to liberate themselves from the USA imperialistic yolk.
May sound utopic in todays situation but very feasable in decades to come if people want it and are willing to struggle for it.
@shai- get real that will never happen unless there is some world desator or alien invansion,or better yet no religion. demoocracy in palestin. lol. yes they voted for hammas who vowed to kill jews, but were not the majorty fatah is. thats not good enough so hammas killed there own and took over gaza even though fatah won the elections. thats why all the killing and bombings are in gaza.and what about american values do you hate? you have to have a world power so choose one. China? russia? iran?
Fear decision
But I confort you-the Sweden ambassador in Israel was more intelligent and human and denied the things your newspaper published. Sure, you will say that the democracy obliges to publish everything-but still the article has a strange smell.And so the attitude of the Swedish Minister.
Happy Ramadan, Sweden
Yaqub Zaki
He lived there for a while and when he came back he said that the country is beautiful, the economy is great, but that the people all look the same, think the same, they are passive, slow, and sometimes quite stupid. He also said something about inbreading
Am I still in the realm of Freedom of Speach, or is this comment too much and will be censured like the Muhamad cartoons?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-US&rlz=1I7GGLL_sv&q=The+blood+libel
http://www.adl.org/PresRele/IslME_62/5586_62.htm
By doing this, the Swedish government is being hypocritical, freedom of speech means freedom for all, not just for Aftonbladet's unfounded accusations.
Condemning Aftonbladet would not impede its freedoms. So why does Sweden defend it?
I believe the respectful thing to do is to officially condemn this kind irresponsible and biased information. I'm sorry for all of you who disguise their anti-Semitism in a synthetic cover of liberalism.
By the way, the posters here who are living in the so-called "Israel " tries to show that the israelis are angels but what they did in the land which they stole before 60 years? what they did in Lebanon? in Gaza? these places had no armies to fight your USA-armed army (sorry I mean gangs).