February 14, 2012
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Israel's ambassador to Sweden, Benny Dagan, has been summoned by Sweden's foreign office to discuss the diplomatic discord following an article in a national newspaper claiming Israeli soldiers harvest the organs of dead Palestinians.
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Not different than Der Sturmer:
http://zionism-israel.com/dic/blood_libel_germany.jpg
And it is the conditions in respective countries that allow such incitement to be published.
We are dealing with Israel as a democratic country not as a bunch of Jews, and if the article is true then this is a war crime, and not in any case related to religion (from a political point of view).
Well, sorry Israel, seems that Sweden is not one of these nations to support you blindly just because some of your people might have suffered outside Sweden's borders.
you are very true. leftists, stalinists and maoists are not one inch better then nazis. the so cold clutire-redaction of that hate-newspaper comes very close to the cluture-redaction of "der stürmer" of julius streicher.
Yes, you said "blood sucking of the European people" - just like this?
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/DerSturmer2.jpg
"When Aftonbladet in 2006 refused to publish the controversial Danish Muhammad caricatures, the newspaper's then editor wrote, "If one approaches sensitive issues, then they must be handled in a thorough manner". For whatever reason, the newspaper has singularly failed to apply the same logic in this instance."
"For whatever reason" - the reason is very clear. One only needs to examine the history of the publication.
"Heavily influenced by pro-German staff members, the newspaper supported Germany during World War II."
This is the true side of Jewish, first they suck muslims blood and now they are sucking blood of European countries.
Well done Swedish, that you show the real face of Israel to world. Well those who are silent on such a disgraceful acts by Israeli then they should be think that if such bad things happen to them then what ?
You are full of contradictions:
A few quotes from your own comment
1."you people"
2."the rest of the world doesn't like you."
and then you say:
"The Jews".... "bitch and moan and claim racism at the slightest drop of a hat."
How fitting
your comment brings the opinion of a old german nazi in my mind who said:
"we germans will never forgive you jews auchwitz."
the thing is going on in most parts of europe is a slow process. muslims and their leftist slaves take over more and more the mass media (instead of the jews) with all the bad consequences for europeans.
it goes so far, that you are titeld as a nazi when you support israel and the jews (gert wilders) or when you speak against the islam.
should people hate Russians for the news related to the atrocities some of their soldiers committed in Tchechenia, should we hate Americans for what that they did in Iraq, Italians for their soldiers raping Somali women in the 80´s, French for their Algerian crimes and...???
This is an article about a suspect crime committed by soldiers that can be true or not but I do not understand how this can incite violence.
Honestly, I fee that it is triggering much more negativity towards Israel this arrogant and upset reaction than the original article.
And, please, let´s stop saying that if you write something against Israel and its army you are nazi. This is a ridiculous thought.
@browneyes10
I am sure you have the final solution to the Jewish problem...
If IDF would not steal organs from bodies of Palestinian victims - why it would be difficult for israelis to explain why that long seam has appeared on the body of shot palestinian?
We have freedom. I do not know if its allowed in Israel to say anything. Proud of you Sweden
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=new%20jersey%20jew%20organ&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1I7GGLL_en&tab=nv#q=new+jersey+rabbis+organ&hl=en&emb=0
A known Professor in Ben-Gurion University in Beersheba, Israel, has described the situation there and he feels ashamed of that as any free Jew in the world (who are many actually).
Please check the following link from Los Angeles Times:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-gordon20-2009aug20,0,1126906.story
P.S. This shows that Aftonbladet has not MOST PROBABLY claimed the report and thus the report deserves investigation from the international organizations.
This is not about freedom of speech it is about cowardice and lack of spine. When it was the Mohammad cartoons the Swedish Government closed the website...
Inciting people to hate and manipulated people to see the other as lower form of human is the first step toward killing them.
During the war, Winston Churchill referred to Sweden as "that small, coward country"... get a spine or, at the end, the same faith will be awaiting you.
You still try to match between the cartoons and this article? They are as different as the white color and the black. In the cartoon case it was insulting, ironic drawing of a person who is a PROPHET for lots of people KEEPING IN MIND THAT INSULTING IS NOT INCLUDED WITHIN THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
On the other hand, Until now me and many of the people around me including many comments here DO NOT see any insulting in this article, so it is still within the freedom of speech.
Insulting is not accepted as freedom but POINTING OUT at crimes is TOTALLY within the freedom of speech.
The cartoons were so ugly and I do not think that you accept someone draw MOSES or DAVID in this way.
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2009/08/exclusive-translation-article-that.html
i say it was insulting to me and many more not to show the cartoons.
if you do not have evidence that the IDF is doing this then it is not a crime it a accusation.
i think its ok to publish this and the cartoon. if muhammed is off limits for discussion then maybe Bush is off limits. i voted for him twice as millions of others.if you say he is hitler then you insult us
Swedish Foreign Minister Laila Freivalds described Kuriren's move as "a provocation" by "a small group of extremists".
"I will defend freedom of the press no matter what the circumstances, but I strongly condemn the provocation by SD-Kuriren. It displays a complete lack of respect," she said in a statement.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4700414.stm
"When we had an agitated discussion about what many people saw as official defamation of Islam and the Prophet Muhammad, I think we gained an understanding that it is through openness that we best build the tolerance and the understanding that is so important in our society," Bildt wrote. "That is my belief in this case too."
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1249418665710&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Muhammad cartoon is like making a cartoon from Moses or an insulting cartoon from a Jewsih rabbi. That is exactly Anti-semist. But in this case the author just witness a crime by the army of a country.
sorry, i just don't eat what every little reporter/blogger gives me...
have a nice week, everyone.
Freaking Aftonbladet can write that Jews eat palestinians for breakfast and put their children in a blender and drink them. (While the wonderful Muslims cut off hands, hang gays, beat women publicly, burn foreigners alive, poison each other with chemical weapons, rape in prisons and it IS FOR REAL.)
The problem was that the author compared the invention with other jews in USA that were involved in trading medical organs illegally. This is an insinuation that ALL jews have the same behavior. Exactly like the nazis did.
DreEstwd - you are so thick that you even put the word Jews in parenthesis eh? By that actually doubting that there are any Jews, you, donkey. In that case you even cancel the hatred of your Muslim brothers towards the Jews, because there are no Jews! Proving that it is whether YOU or the rest of the Muslims are completely delusional.
That aberrant Lieberman is the same person who would again authorize shooting down 700 surrendering Egyptian soldiers, as Israel did in the desert and thought that no one was watching and listening (indeed, he might have been one of the soldiers who did the shooitng in that "Malmedy" slaughter) so he has no credibility with rational thinkers with his hate-filled irrationality.
Sweden does not have to answer to Israel.
You see? You have just said Muslims do this and that! A great generalization about all Muslims. That is something we often see in many medias. But has Aftonbladet or any other medias generalized about JEWS? or it just mentioned the military or a country? If a military of a country is not subject to justice, then they can commit all kinds of genocides.
One is talking about making fun of a religious figure, and one is examining a crime of some agency!!!
Muslims are being slammed in every and each news media around the world so why not just saying something about some other country aside from a Muslim one!
Again this is about an act of an agency in a country called Israel, so I am sure when the Swedish media would report doubt in the acts of this agency, they are not talking about each and every Jew around the world, so for god sake take it easy and go investigate this matter and prove it's wrong before moaning and crying (as usual) for the rights of the Jews in the WW2.
For those who dont understand why the muhammed cartoons keep coming up here it is. it is about free speech if this can be allowed (which i think it should) then the cartoon should be allowed. anything written is offensive to someone. South Park is a prime ex. of free speech.it is not that there was a bomb on his head if you print any cartoon even in a good way of muhammed then there will be protest and fires. yet South Park refused to show muhammed due to "FEAR" not respect.
@iraniboy- can you give us a good generalization of muslims? i can not think of any, or any contrbutions to human kind recently regarding science, medicen, technology.
There is a list of all Muslim scientists. But now I just mention two of them.
Ibn Sina, an Iranian Muslim who wrote a book which was a reference medical book in Europe for 800 years.
His 14-volume The Canon of Medicine, which was a standard medical text in Europe and the Islamic world up until the 18th century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_sina#The_Canon_of_Medicine
The word "Algebra" currently used in English comes from the name of an Iranian Muslim called Alkharazmi for introdcution of decimal positional number system to the Western world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_M%C5%ABs%C4%81_al-Khw%C4%81rizm%C4%AB
I don't understand what these guys mean, so if Jews have had some good contributions to humanity (keep in mind that most of these contributors hated to be labeled "Jews" and were atheists), then they are allowed to trade human organs?
Nonetheless, here is a recent noble prize in Chemistry to an "Arab":
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/chemistry/laureates/1999/zewail-autobio.html
@johnnytango: Kebab is Turkish not Arabic!
He lived there for a while and when he came back he said that the country is beautiful, the economy is great, but that the people all look the same, think the same, they are passive, slow, and sometimes quite stupid. He also said something about inbreading
Am I still in the realm of Freedom of Speach, or is this comment too much and will be censured like the Muhamad cartoons?
Compassionate, ethical human beings, ecologically conscious men women and children of Lutheran Country know where the Holy Bible comes from.
The story - on the surface of it - is patently absurd and therefore difficult to believe and we must first and foremost ask ourselves why Israeli authorities should want to advertise the perfidy that they are accused of , by dumping the sinfully disembowelled and dismembered bodies outside of Palestinian homes as patent evidence of their purported dastardly acts.
Who did the dismembering and who dumped the bodies as evidence of such acts has to be established beyond any reasonable doubt before accusations are hurled in any direction. In other words this calls for an investigation, not just Israel denials and Palestinian counter- accusations and reprisals.
i tend to believe this all have to do with the fact Islam is holding Sweden quite tightly by the balls ,this country has a poppet government which is being manipulated or more correctly to say managed by Arabs/Muslims
http://www.nordisk.nu/showthread.php?t=43143
If the paper has a constitutional right to print anything, then I have a right to call for all Jews, Israelis and fair-minded people to boycott IKEA and Absolut around the world. I have a constitutional right to declare that the red Absolut is made with blood and the veneer on IKEA wood is made with human fingernails bones. What's the difference between my claims and Aftonbladet's?
Yes you can say that about IKEA and Absolut.I'm sure no Swede is offended by that. But any sober person who has heared anything about Sweden would reject your claim. But for IDF that attacks a school which is run by UN and not Palestinians, things are not so clear!!
take it one step further and boycott any product Made in Sweden. You think India is going to buy any Saab Aero Gripens now?
Then all you Israel-bashing Swedes will really have a reason to join those who believe every conspiracy theory about Jews and Israel. Sweden can then wonder what happened to their entire export economy.
Foreign minister Carl Bildt is a known pedophile who tortures animals and listens to ABBA! I love Swedish freedom of speech!
It could be funny if it was not true!
what really pisses me off and im sure it pisses alot of other people off is if 1 israeli soldier is killed its front page throught da world about what a freakin hero he was for fighting, but wen so many palestinians die everyday especially innocent kids no1 hears about it and it doesnt even make da news.
now theyre getting some bad media attention and they cant handle it. da western world spoils israel way too much.especially america.
In WWII , the Swedes financed the Nazi war machine and six million Jews died . This was all done out of fear of Nazi belligerency .
Today, the Swedes under the guise of "freedom of Speech " that murders Jews in Swedish shopping malls, all out of fear of their Muslim masses.
There is no truth whatsoever to the blood libel against the Israeli army , but there is much truth to Muslim terror , human rights abuse, and bullying. This is where Sweden's "freedom of speech" draws its line! A country with a history of cowardice!
Because Israel is scared that if the truth gets out about their operations than western countries wont support them. They dont like negative media attention because they want 2 look like theyre not even doing anything wrong. its a simple case of out of mind out of sight, if the media doesnt know what israel is doing, no1 will find out about it and israel wont look bad.
If it smells like racism, looks like it and acts like it, then it must be racism!
This story is so unproffesional that I don't know where to begin. Come on - Israel is killing palestinians in order to steal their organs, and then sells it to Jews from the US? Doesn't it sound ridiculus? This is insulting for any Israeli, no one here thinks that it's true, not even the most extreme leftists, not even arab parliament members. If this is true, publish it, condemn Israel, do whatever necessary. But you can't just make allegations without prove, especially when some have an interest in harming Israel's reputation.
and BTW - to johnnytango: In all wars that took place in the arab world since Israels foundation - the list number of casaulties were killed by Israeli forces. wars like Iran-Iraq, allgiria, gulf war, Iraqi war, lebanon's civil war,hama massacre, oppression of the kurds and many other conflicts, have nothing to do with Israel. These are also the main reason for muslim immigration - nothing to do with Israel.
The deaths in the Arab-Israeli conflict since 1950 include 32,000 deaths due to Arab state attacks and 19,000 due to Palestinian attacks, or 51,000 . Arabs make up roughly 35,000 of these dead and Jewish Israelis make up 16,000.
The Syrians killed almost 30,000 Muslims February 2, 1982 at the Hama massacre
Jordan against Black Sept. 25,000 Arabs/Muslims killed 1971
Algeria has killed over 200,000 Arabs/Muslims between 1991-2006
Wow! With the Jews controlling the media you would think we would all know about these events and others!"
I object the occupation of the palestinin teritories, I object the oppression of palestinians and racism of all kind, and I really long for peace. But I also know that this situation is absolotuly not entirely our fault. Arab countries have several times invaded to Israel and lost.
and BTW, zigheil is a name chosen by one of the responders, scroll up and look.
@jonny tango, iraniboy (my favorite by far)- i was asking for "recent contributions"
@delision 1982 i did look up the nobel winner and funny enough he did his PhD and nobel work in "AMERICAAAA" how about that.
And to you guys again. i think it is ok to publish this as long it is not published as fact. but do you belive in "innocent until proven guilty?" has anyone seen south park making fun of jesus "the son of god" that is free speech. so whats the big deal about the cartoon of muhammed? and another question i would love to know is what if it was just muhammed with no bomb then is it ok? this is brought up because of double standards of the swedish press. they removed a website for god sake. how is this fare? but i guess the world is not fair though and that is reality.damm
Peace
sound reliable and convincing.
here a link (in Hebrew)
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3765741,00.html
and here's a tarnslation from google translator
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ynet.co.il%2Farticles%2F0%2C7340%2CL-3765741%2C00.html&sl=iw&tl=en&history_state0=
FACT 1: Between 1962-1954, France killed 600,000 Algerian muslims in Algeria independence war. Algeria claims this number is more like 1,000,000
FACT2: Between 1972-1955 in the first civil war in Sudan, by moderate estimates 500,000 died. in 1983 the second civil war started, but it was a real genocide. the arabs Muslims murdered 1.9 Millions other ethnics, and non-muslims. in the last genocide, that is still happening todAy in Darfur, The arab-muslim government killed 500,000 of other ethnics. Total in sudan - between 2.6m - 3m. - The JEWS and the Israelis was NOT there.
FACT 3: Afghanistan - during the soviet invasion, between 1979 till 1989, 1m to 1.5m civilians were killed. after the soviet withdrawal, and till the American invasion, 1M more civilians were killed in the civil was between the different groups. after the american invasion, about 10,000 each year. (which is less then the 100,000 average a year, during the Taliban regime) Total dead: 2m - 2.5m. - The JEWS and the Israelis was NOT there.
FACT 4: Somalia . since 1977, between 400,000 to 550,000 dead. partly in warfare, partly in organized mass starvation and civic bombing. - The JEWS and the Israelis was NOT there.
FACT 5: Bangladesh: In 1971, those people tried to get away from Pakistan. Pakistan retaliated with systematically mass massacre between 1m to 2m peaceful muslim Bengals, many farmers. researchers in the world, call it the third genocide since the Holocaust. - The JEWS and the Israelis was NOT there.
FACT 6: Indonesia between 1966-1965, in a Communist uprising, 400,000 muslims were massacre, by their own people. in 1975 east-timor declared independent. soon after, Indonesia invaded, till the withdrawal in 1999, between 100,000 to 200,000 men died. - The JEWS and the Israelis was NOT there.
FACT 7: Iraq-Iran: In the war between them, 450,000-650,000 Iraqis, and 450,000-970,000 were killed. between 1992-1991, there was Shi'ite uprising in Iraq, between 40,000-200,000 shiates were murder by Saddam. add to that, the genocide done by Saddam, of the Kurd, between 200,000-300,000. after the first gulf war, around 500,000 iraqies died from lack medicine & food, because Saddam preferred to buy some other stuff. since the american occupation, between 100,000 to 150,000 were killed by Shiites killing Sunnites and vice versa. total of: 1.5m-2m Iraqis. 450,000-950,000 Iranians. - The JEWS and the Israelis was NOT there.
FACT 8: Yemen: 1962 -1970 Civil war - between 100,00 to 150,000 muslim Yemeni dead. Egypt interfered in that war, and did war crimes, by using chemical gas. - The JEWS and the Israelis was NOT there.
FACT 9: Chechnya - first Chechnya war, between 50,000 to 200,000 Chechnyan dead. the second war, between 30,000 to 100,000. total of 80,00 to 300.000 depend of who you ask. - The JEWS and the Israelis was NOT there.