March 13, 2010
Published: 23 Aug 09 07:17 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/21632/20090823/
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A street festival held in the Rosengård district of Malmö deteriorated into a fight on Saturday evening as activists were forced out by area residents.
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If it was acceptable to use plastic bullets and water cannon in Northern Ireland, it is perfectly acceptable to use them in Sweden.
Afterall lots of Swedes supported certain political and paramilitary wings in Northern Ireland. So if they supported and liked it so much, they can have it at home and enjoy it up close instead of a 1000 kilometres away.
In many ways this is the cause of many of the problems that Sweden is currently experiencing trying to integrate other cultures - the belief that the "Swedish way" cannot possibly be flawed and so everyone has to be shoe-horned into it willingly or not. Even as a "European" immigrant, I feel a very strong social pressure to adopt the "Swedish way" of thinking - and I really resent this because I come from a very different background to a lot of Swedes, which has inevitably resulted in a different outlook on some things to most Swedes.'
It is hardly surprising then that people in Rosengård feel even more alienated from Swedish society and, understandably, resent the fact that other Swedes naively feel that they have to take it upon themselves to "speak up for them". Until the people in Rosengård actually feel that they have a legitimate voice to speak out for them, these tensions and issues will continue to simmer away. If one wants any more proof of how bad the result of immigrant social alienation can get, one only has to look at the Banlieues in Paris. In many ways Rosengård sounds very similar - and will continue to experience similar problems.
"Därefter kördes deltagarna i Reclaim Rosengård bort från rondellen av en uppretad folkmassa, däribland fanns medlemmar ur det nya Rosengårdsgänget Lions Family. Samtidigt syntes medlemmar från gänget Black Cobra på aktivisternas sida. Samtliga aktivister tvingades att fly till McDonalds."
Samtliga aktivister tvingades att fly till McDonalds
Samtliga aktivister tvingades att fly till McDonalds
Samtliga aktivister tvingades att fly till McDonalds
I could read that over and over again. In fact, I think I will.
Have a great Sunday.
Nemesis, it is unfortunate you have no clue about the real problem in Northern Ireland (or its history) unless you are of the protestant section aka landed aristocracy (planters) or unionists.
There's a saying that he who wears the shoe knows where it pinches most. There are many 'holes' in this article (I think TheLocal is doing a great job though) but who better to discuss Rosengard than its residents?! For those complaining about the 'swedish way' of life, no place has the perfect way you either love it or hate it, each has its good & bad sides. If you don't like it, take the next available bus, train or flight out. Its often said that when you are in Rome, you behave like romans.
From what I've known of Sweden, I would tend to agree with Farnoxo's above statements. The sitution in Rosengard is a genuine "made in Sweden" social problem based upon a very naive Swedish immigration policy.
"Reclaim Rosengård" From what?
"protest against the social conditions" what conditions?
"activists ... were pushed out by Rosengård residents" Activists were NOT residents? ALL residents doing the pushing were UNITED in this action?
"activists' floats … barred from entering the predominantly immigrant neighborhood" Like N. Ireland Protestants PARADING through Catholic hoods??? "PREDOMINANTLY" says there are non-immigrants too, were they the ones trying to complain? The IMMIGRANTs are ALL of the same MIND and belief???
"quite a few who had gathered ... also a lot of parents" - "WHO"? gathered? Parents, the activists or the residents?
"they didn't want people to feel they had the right to come and speak to the residents who live there." WTF!?!?!? Welcome to the FREE WORLD! Is this the MORMON church kind of thing? Or the, This Ain't Sweden Thing?
The view that immigrants are a generally welfare-suckings beasts is just sick. If some do, it is not because they choose. It is always about the system - not about individuals.
The fundamental problem is that, even at this time, we still don't realize that there is no God-given country to a people. Civilization happenend because people immigrated from place to place.
I have gone to language school with some of these "adults" and can tell you that some of them, 70% are just bad seeds here to exploit the government while living off the TON of money they have back home. If you don't like the country that was kind enough to take you in when you were "down and out", a government that gives and gives and if all you are going to do is destroy property and hurt people then GO BACK HOME!
Sweden suddenly declared itself "multi-cultural" twenty-five years ago despite having a relatively homogeneous population, no history of mass immigration, no colonial past and a language that very few newcomers are familiar with. Now they have the problems that they do. Their immigration policies and the implications to calling themselves "multi-cultural" has been incredibly naive and overly idealistic.
Instead of 'locking them in', why not spread these people out throughout society? That would help them to integrate better and get rid of the ghetto problem. I understand not everyone in Sweden is so keen on living next door to immigrants but helping them to become more integrated into society would benefit both them and Swedes in the long run. Or...?
It's NOT the people of Rosengård who started this. It's a bunch of tits looking for an excuse to fight. A large amount of Rosengård inhabitants have just started Rammadan and want nothing but peace and quiet... then this stuff kicks off and the media's all over them again.... fuelled by blinkered narrow-minded muppets who're shouting to have the place cordoned off.
Hands up if you've worked there in the community and actually KNOW what the kids see and think. Anyone? Has anyone perhaps taught day-classes there for people who're not employed? .... I thought not.
If the only solution you can see is "Bomb Rosengård" or "put a wall around it" Then you must have your head stuck firmly up your own ass.
So much superficial thinking here....encouraged by the pseudo intelligent media which is entertainment run by the native Swedish middle class occupying army.
As a general rule, "anti-fascists" only stand up to democracies. If they ever stood up against actual fascism, they would be killed or imprisoned.