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Swedish file sharing website The Pirate Bay remained closed on Tuesday morning after a Stockholm court decision forced a supplier to cut off server capacity.
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The the people who are driving the car on the highway have broken the law (downloading copyrighted content) but instead of going after them big content has bribed its way via politicians and judges to go after the car, the highway and the company who make the highway... what f#€king sense does that make?
Imagine you are speeding and the roadworks get fined, or the car maker...!
They are so openly corrupt and gaming the system that it makes me sick.
PP's getting my vote this coming election - again.
Very poor analogy and as you know;
"...have broken the law (downloading copyrighted content)..." - this is not illegal, uploading and sharing breaks the law.
You have been around long enough to know this, come on.
Analogy i picked up from TPBs blog... i kind of thought it breaks it down into pretty simple terms for people who are not geeks ( full disclosure, i consider myself a geek).
About the downloading thing: oopsy,you're right of course, need to sleep, sorry about that. :)
I bet a few of the MAFIAA scumbags were happy to read downloading is illegal too!
There is no doubt that the RIAA, etc have been happy to let the confusion linger when it comes to whether or not dl'ing is illegal.
It is often reported that 'so-and-so' is being prosecuted for downloading, when it should be sharing/uploading/hosting - but I think it's a combo of sloppy journalism and lack of clarification.
The whole upl & dl confusion/misuse is just like the cracker/hacker confusion - too frequent and not helpful.
It's still a poor analogy, regardless of where it's from or who originated it. Sleep well.
On a personal note, I would like to add that even though it is illegal, there's not a sh!t they can do to find you if you use a good VPN (like IPREDator). A quick note for people who are confused about a VPN, basically the anti piracy scum log your IP address when you are downloading a file and then contact your ISP to get your details and then in the final case... sue you. By using a VPN your own IP address is never shown as downloading a file but the IP address of the VPN service provider. So for example if you are downloading (insert name here) with the ip address (for example) 192.20.2.3 but since you are connected to your VPN service their ip 204.1.4.6 will be shown to the anti piracy morons.
A good VPN provider will not keep logs, so when the anti piracy morons go to them, they say they didnt download squat check our machines.. and we dont know who did as we dont have logs. Simple.
That is interesting - could you cite the ruling on the downloading/illegal, with country and ref to the case.
It seems to go against the information that I have about the consumer's right to media shift.
- I'd be interested to get a handle on that.
"could you cite the ruling on the downloading/illegal, with country and ref to the case"
Actually, I can't.
I just referenced some of my old emails between me and Rick Falkvinge (head of Pirate Party Sweden) in which he told me what I replied to you in my last comment, and i totally trust him because as head of PP, he has to keep up to date with the legal issues. He's also a very easy dude to talk to with loads of information.
You can talk to him and other people well versed in actual Swedish law on the PP forums (just go to piratpartiet DOT se). You can also contact Rick via email at
rick DOT falkvinge AT piratpartiet DOT se
needless to say you need to modify the above and no spaces.
(full disclosure, I am a member of the PP)
Any other questions contact me via www DOT eZee DOT se as i wont be following this thread.
Cheers mate!
will do.