March 20, 2010
Published: 25 Aug 09 08:37 CET
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The Swedish EU presidency announced on Monday that proposals to reform the union's immigration policy will be presented in September.
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If you stop illegal immigrantion then you do not have to deal with the relocation problems. I find it so funny that they can track down a terrorists within 100m but 73000 illegal immigrants just "slips" in. This is a pure scandal!!!
the wold must make plans for better living conditions in those countries.
You are right!! If people from these countries that you mention escape poverty and go to Europe, we will simply get poverty here in Europe as well. That is hardly something that we want. The responibility for these countries and its citizens can hardly be put on Europe. Every country is responisble for its own.
If 73000 illegal immigrants enter the EU, send them back and send a bill to their respective country for the, airplane ride, housing and lodging. If the EU started doing that, then it would very quickly stop!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8213884.stm
How is it so clear for us commenting here and totally different for them?
Are we missing something?
Illegal immigration is a crime, period. It should be treated as so. Does it sound hard what I say? yes. Is it true and according to the laws? yes indeed.
Look at Sweden, how many refugees do they have? Still with no social incertion at all, totally isolated outside the cities with no possibilities of working in the white market and increasing the tax evasion in the black market. So... sollution? That is hardly a solution.
If you let a group of people break the law you will have an avalanche of people doing the same afterwards. They will only make the problem bigger.
Bogus Asylum - Immediate deportation.
Illegal Immigrant - Immediate deportation.
Criminal Immigrants - Immediate deportation.
Refugee Quota - 0 until further notice.
Immigration from non EU countries (except US or Australia) - on hold until further notice.
That simple.
Housing, Jobs and Health are the fundamentals to sustaining life. Every Government should have the means to ensure that its country meets the basic needs. Sometimes, it goes beyond Economics. The UN needs to re-engineer, and put in place, a policy that would ensure each nations its own right of sovereignty.
Dont fool yourself to believe that there is no misery in Europe.
Your suggestions on billings are quite amusing and display an immature outlook without knowing the problem in its entirety.
I don't understand your point. There is misery in Europe and the West most of it is due to 1) mental illness 2) substance abuse 3) illegal immigration beyond the ability of the counties
The biggest part of illegal immigration is economic migration. African immigrants and middle eastern are the obvious problem in Europe due to proximity. The US it's the Southern borders and Hati.
Immigration from non EU countries (except US or Australia) - on hold until further notice.
Why people from the States and OZ get special treatment, but others not ?
We don't want these people here because with them it comes also crime, violence, and all sort of social problems, beside they, and theirs offspring, will be on the dole for life.
If that wasn't enough, once they set foot here, they start claiming their "rights" demanding changes in our society to accommodate their medieval life style.
That's why...
In a globalised world where resources move freely and unhindered accross borders so will the people who actually own them.
I am from India and for what I can see most of the local brands have been wiped out but western MNCs. Let us take coca cola for instance them pump out most of the water for free, bottle millions of liters. Very few real low paying jobs are generated as a result and the govt earns a small percentage as tax but the bulk of the money leaves the country and most locals end up having to buy water.
Part of the free market system would mean that wealth generation continues, and europe or America as you know is a stagnant market. So exploitation of the 2 billion people who live exactly like their anscestors lived 2000 years ago and maybe another billion who live in "Urban" areas with no urban facilities and exploitation of their resources is what is keeping our economies on the high.
Ilegal imigration my friends is a very very small price to pay for the returns that we are getting. In the first place an open labor market would put an end to loss of jobs in the west. But you wouldn't be earning a weeks Asian wages in an hour. And to be honest it is my belief that if not for the reconstruction contracts in Iraq we would not be having the war in the first place.
And coming from the country that receives most illegal imigrants per capita in the world (Greece) I would like to clarify a couple of things:
First of all, "immediate deportation" is a joke. Most immigrants come from countries such as pakistan that will NOT accept back any immigrants deported.
Second, Greece has a coastline equal to half that of Africa, i.e. even if every Greek citizen was working as border police, those immigrants would still go through. And seriously, as a Greek taxpayer i don't see why we need to pay even a dime to stop those people.
Third, Crime etc sounds to me like typical right wing stupidity. The proportion of immigrants commiting crimes is similar to that of EU natives of the same income level and social class, i.e. if you compare crime rates of pakistani guys to that of say German poor jobless guys they are very similar.
Fourh and most important: why on earth would we allow imigration from the US or australia and not the third world? That's a seriously retarded point of view. Immigrants should be accepted on the basis of their education and skills, not their nationality.
Finaly, i don't see why a hard working immigrant doesn't deserve to live in europe. If he's not qualified or whatever, he's not going to find a job anyway, but he should at least be allowed to stay in europe for some months to LOOK for a job. If he is better than an EU native he should get the job, it's simple as that.
Beynch, very true. I don't know how we let this happen. The UN will take an anti-Western stance on virtually every issue. They always want MORE money and aid to go to these evil dictators in remote corners of the world. The most worthless and self-destructive (by a Western perspective) organization in existence today.
And as a French, I think I know what I'm talking about... sadly...
antoniolgj is a short-sighted xenophobe afraid of people he doesn't know. Should be deported, or exiled if Swedish.
I agree... But as you say, if you say something like, you're a racist! I don't think I'm racist, but when I hear that "f*** you French" is not punishable while "f*** you Arab" is, well YES, I'm ANGRY!
No wonder why I don't want to go back to France, and why I begin to be really worried for Sweden! For example, this project about "rights for immigrants'children to go to school"... I really hope that won't be accepted, because that will be the begin of the end, as in France...
The idea is we live in the same world if you light a fire somewhere or just be ignorant about what's going on somewhere else, it eventually damages you.
And if latter is called a problem, how should the former be defined?
Could you tell me where you come from please?
@magic1964: you are right but you need to look further.
In Sweden many of the refugees are from Iraq, Afganistan, Chile, Bolivia.
Who installed Saddam, Taliban, Pinochet
Further on Iran and entire S.A. was a play ground for the US and her alies (all those who had a stake there).
And as for Africa, the english, the french, the ducth still have huge economic interests and military operation, covert or otherwise.
Now in the future when these conflicts come about and people are uprooted will it be wrong for them to go to other places to seek a better life? Is it moral to compel people to live where it is unlivable?
Slavery, colonialism, etc come to mind. Everubody deserves a better life not just those with big guns or deep pockets.
I must probably write a blog to explain how money works, and being left is not an insult it is just an ideology. I don't believe communism works.
you could just answer why Iraq war and give a good answer you would understand what I mean.
@ thegraou : im from australia. and damn proud of it. we treat people equally here. every1 here gets da same education, work and social rights.
you are a fool............learn how to write properly first............yeah what fantasy part of Australia do you live in...we have the same problems as anywhere else...even more so...don't spout off ill informed propaganda