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As the Aftonbladet organ harvesting scandal rumbles to the end of its second week, Stockholm-based Israeli writer David Stavrou calls on policy makers in Sweden and Israel to shed light on the situation rather than turning up the heat.
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Thanks a lot for a well-weighted article outlining the current conflict. Being Israeli in Scandinavia is indeed not easy, just as you say. My he, who's up above, help us all.
Allan Clare, Bristol, UK.
A sound, well reasoned comment on the whole sorry mess from an Israeli.
David, I whole heartedly concur with what you wrote and the tone that you used. I propose the you replace Mark Regev as the official Israeli spokesman. Your sound analysis and conciliatory tone would greatly improve the attitude of the worlds press towards Israel
no other folk in the world faced that what jews faced during WW2 with 60% of the jewish world population killed by the nazis...the real existing threat of totaly extermination. when hitler would be sucesfull, there would be no jews around the world today.
like a excellent german journalist (hendrk m broder) said, the industrial killing of jews did not begun with auchwitz..it begun with articles like the one in Aftonbladet in german newspaper like "der stürmer". it was a slow process whichs goal was to dehumanize the jewish people.
this antisemitic swedish leftisi newspaper is doing exactly the same. it dehumanize the IDF and connects the story directly into the jewish religion by bringing "connections" to the criminal case in new jersy.
this systematic dehumanization can be observed in the muslim world with:
-jews as apes and pigs
-the source of AIDS and swine flu.
-the mysterious power which rules the world.
now we have such a propaganda in swedish media and this can be look in as only one step to dehumanize the jews again. we have antisemitism in the whole muslim world and in europe...we have "judenrein" muslim countries like we have stürmer-like propaganda again in the muslim world and the muslim parallel worlds in europe and we have city parts in the middle of europe in which rabbis advice their community to not walk around with kipa and other typical jewish signs.
the jews recognize that systematicly repeating of what led to auchwitz and thats the reason for their reaction.
Attack on UN bases
Attack on UN protected school
Attacking Red Credent Abulances
Racial attack illustared on their T-Shirts like:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Israeli-Army-T-Shirts-Mock-Killing-Palestinian-Women-And-Children-During-Gaza-Offensive/Article/200903315245946?
So why shouldn't a journalist suspect a stitched body of a dead Palestinian?
The glare of the light that is revealing their crimes is causing them to scream, rant, rave, sue, demand and otherwise hysterically react to what has already been documented.
Next, they will be saying that they never invaded Lebanon and that their Gaza maintained ghetto is really a Garden of Eden.
Take them to the World Court for their stockpile of illegal nuclear weapons, just as Iran is now being taken over the coals for their suspected nuclear weapons development, as yet a pipe-dream, by AIPAC and their stooge, the United States.
Sweden owes them nothing.
That would have saved the police from making an unnecessary trip and the firemen would not have had to worry about rock-throwers.
I do not believe that any one of the rock-throwers were Native-Born Swedes.
Since I am a Swede through genes and un-bringing, why would I throw rocks at Swedish firemen?
Are you Swedish?
Here's my point, whether this story is true or not, there is already enough tension between the Israelis and Palestinians so why would the Israelis take away the body of a dead palestinian & then return the body with a huge cut running from chin to the groin???
Are organs really being harvested or are they practising autopy on those bodies? What of the Scot Alastair Sinclair who allegedly committed suicide in an Israeli prison, when his body was returned to Scotland, it was observed that some organs were missing. What of the ukrainian (can't recall his name) whose body was missing organs too?
Hamas use UN ambulance to smuggle terrorists in Gaza
Resurrection in Palestine
British Colonel Declares "The IDF Did More to Safeguard Civilians Than Any Other Army
Female Homicide Bomber (suicide)
Palestinian terrorists shooting rockets from a school
hamas using boy as human shield
David is now repeating the false or mythological version for the origen of Eastern European Jews that got them in so much trouble in the first place.
I only wish David could or would say he is not a 'semite' but this is how far it has gone I'm afraid.The very justification for Jews of Eastern European origen to now occupy Israel is based upon mythology as exemplified in that old saying ,'Next year in Jerusalem'.
As to the organ rumor all I can say is that if the bodies of Palestinians many of whom had already been shot by the IDF but still alive when they were hauled off by them then return so mutilated that it fosters a rumor or tall tale that organs have been extracted somewhere in between then this means the bodies have been mutilated for some unexplainable reason after the fact and this should be investigated and clarified.
The recent arrest of a number of New Jersey mayors and rabbis including an Israeli American in New Jersey who was money laundering as well as trafficking in human organs between Israel and the U.S.and was arrested by the U.S. FBI along with a number of New Jersey mayors and rabbis only a short with ago there justifies a deeper investigation of rumors of illegal organ transplants around the world.
I was and remain appauled by the fact that on 9/11 Logan Airport in Boston was 'guarded by Israelis retired from the military as well as Ezra Harel and Menachem Atzmon who had previously been convicted of money laundering in Israel between the Israeli government and the Likud Party and that he is a personal aquaintence of high level Israeli politicians Ehud Olmert and PM Benyamin Netanyahu among others.And even though Kuwaitis have a stronger historic claim to being 'semites' I still do not consider myself 'anti-semitic' for pointing out the historic fact that Dulles Airport, Washington, D.C. was being guarded on that same day by the KuAM or Kuwait American Company - Securacom - that was run by Marvin Bush(least known of the Bush brothers)as well as his presumed cousin Wirt Walker III and a member of the Al Sabah family of Kuwait,(who coincidentally hated or 'blood hated' Saddam Hussein.And both the Israeli's ICTS Internatiional Hunteigh airport rent-a-cops as well as the Bush-Al Sababh Securacom financed themselves with stock fraud against American investors !
Again the position taken is that the Aftonbladet article is based on
prejudiced and suspect evidence.
Yet absolutely NO EVIDENCE is offered to show why that position should be accepted.
The case of Bilal Ahmed Ghniyan is not rumour, nor "speculation, unconfirmed testimonies and half truths".
And thus we see the denial ieven in this RELATIVELY fair-minded Israeli response.
I emphasise the word 'relatively' as compared to most of the Israeli responses that I have this is wonderfully even-handed.
But that it is what I find so deceptive. It isn't really. Just ask Bial.
Oh no. You can't. He was shot and critically wounded for ALLEGED stone throwing in the past (would that be based on "speculation, unconfirmed testimonies and half truths"?".
and then forcibly removed by a foreign force (IDF) to a different country (kidnapping?)
and then returned five days later dead, minus his teeth and with a surgical cut from his abdomen to his chin.
So as people sharing an increasingly iterdependent planetI appeal to all reading this: be reasonable; be humane; have some sense of compassion and empathy.
Who is the real victim here?
The many people like Bilal and their sorrowing families?
Or the IDF, or Jews in general, or Israelis in general?
the jews are the victims here. why?
-because what is a regular rule about beeing guilty or not, is changed when its against the jews. now, not the palis who have the body! are forced to open it and prove that something is missing, but the israelis must prove that they are not guilty. what would be absurd at any civilizied court is normal when it comes to jews and israel.
-because one must be realy stuppid when he realy belives that its a a accident when a newspaper with a long antisemitic history (comparing ramallah to auchwitz for example or bringing articles from leftist antisemits who reject israels right to exist) brings this absurd allegation about israel and jews.
grow up and instead of defending free speech against the "evil jews" defend your country against islamic invasion and your swedish women and girls from beeing raped by thousends of muslims year by year.
A newspaper's success is determined by its journalistic integrity! An article like this has caused the papers integrity to fail in the extreme.
The reporter, who by now should have been reassigned to less challenging reporting, like covering weddings and day school graduations, is NOT at fault for this MINDBOGGLINGLY bad and extremely DANGEROUS article.
The reporter can write what they want but it is NOT their newspaper so they do NOT get to say WHAT gets published. That is the job of the editors.
I figure that at least 2 editors did not do their jobs and allowed this nonsense to be published AS FACT!
Have they also been reassigned to less challenging jobs at the newspaper?
"Like it or not, Israel and the Jewish people are intertwined" true.
http://www.paideia-eu.org/pdf/LandOfIsrael.pdf
It's the Almighty, the Torah, the people of Israel and the land of Israel . It's an eternal relationship.
The same cannot be said about the Israel- Sweden relations or indeed of Israel - Arab relations, even if Israel is destined to have the Arabs and the deep blue sea as permanent neighbours.
About the never never land of not knowing, there is a saying, " Between the devil and the deep blue sea."
Israel-Sweden relations did not begin yesterday and to get a fair idea I should like to refer those who have not yet read this, to get acquainted with Israel's former ambassador to Sweden Moshe Yegar's book ( published in 1993) . "Neutral policy--theory versus practice: Swedish-Israeli relations‎" for a history and analysis of that troubled and now troubling relationship.
http://news.google.com/news/search?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=Israel
There are so many separate strands to this ever evolving discussing in which the opposing sides and the opposing views do not seem to be getting any closer to a resolution, compromise or dénouement - and so I suppose that we all wait with bated breath for the arrival of Mr.Bildt in Jerusalem - and the kind of mood he is likely to be in after the obligatory visit to the Yad Vashem will probably further open his heart to grim reality.
I have every confidence that he is and he will.
One of the separate strands that I should like to address here is he (or she ?) the self-styled JohnnyTango who wrote "All that has been written has been written by the victors with the victims to only rest in peace"
In sympathy with Johnny - and as an exhortation to Hamas and their un-abrogated but (unlike the Qur'an) abrogable charter, I should - in sympathy - like to quote Chairman Arafat who on many occasions advocated,
" The peace of the brave
Not the peace of the grave"
as the way forward. - and for those unfamiliar with the charter, there is a commentary by Y.Harkabi, entitled " The Palestinian Covenant and its Meaning". As a counterbalance a reasonable compromise approach, I suggest a closer look into Bassam Tibi 's "Islam between Culture and Politics."
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Mr. Savage demeans himself; he demeans the Swedes that he represents as a Swedish journalist; and he demeans Sweden, by responding to that radical Zionist. As well, Mr Savage is not in a position to make a remark about what might or might not be in the principal Swedish politicians minds. That is pure conjecture.
The responding comments that were generated by Mr Savage's action were mostly from radical Israelis whom I suspect are a part of a concerted Zionist initiated propaganda pogrom against Sweden.
Whether relations are at "new low" between Sweden and Israel or not, does not concern me a whit.
Someone should send the Zionist P.M. a box of Swedish snus and direct him to chew and to swallow the contents.
I like the newest twist. Der Spiegel reports on harvesting of body parts by a German corporation from Ukrainian corpses. The British are reporting on China's policy of harvesting body parts from condemend prisoners.
Interesting how the truthful reporting of body part harvesting fails to get much media echo unless Israel or a Jew is involved.
Yes, Bildt was looking for votes. This government is failing Sweden with a clueless economic policy.
What I find very troubling is how the Swedish labor unions support the Israel-bashing through their part ownership of Aftonbladet. Why would I ever want to buy anything made by such people?
why live in a country that do not want you? that makes its inhabitants feel bad and unwanted? there are better places on earth than sweden. even israel with all its problems is better that the melancholic and disturbed country of sweden,
abba volvo and ikea wil never make a person happy.
So LenaNYC lauds Avigdor Lieberman.Israeli Finance Minister Avigdor Lieberman is Russian mafia and not a 'semite'.He has been involved with Austrian Jewish billionaire and money launder Martin Schlaff who traded with Russia during cold war and for whatever reason was allowed by the U.S.government to involve himself in U.S.penny stock frauds with the Ukranian Israeli Grin brothers using Bawag Bank of Austria,Union and Leumi Banks of Israel for their fraud and money laundering ops.(And Leumi Bank won't even pay holocaust survivers what it owes them.)
Israel was the country Hitler and Rothschild's founded one way or the other and Rothschild perhaps even helped make billionaires out of the new Jewish oligarchs of Russia and took over Yukos oil himself from one of the oligarchs who somehow found himself in trouble.So the Rothschild's or some of them must approve of the mafiosi Lieberman's money laundering ops and turning Israel into or or maintaining it as the money laundering capital of the world.And because the well connected mafiosi Avigdor Lieberman who lives on occupied Palestinian land and has profited from Congo 'blood diamonds' I'd watch my back with that scumbag and Swedish leaders and the EU for that matter should watch his
'business' activities.He and a number of Israeli 'leaders'
and ex leaders should be arrested including ex PM Ehud Olmert for aiding and abetting stock fraud in America .The New York Rabbi Morris Talansky who bribed him was investor along with Abraham Wolfson and sons in the Global Technologies 'IFEN' stock scam that is suspect in having 'accidentally' brought down Swissair 111 off the coast of Nova Scotia in 1998.
Israelis were involved with 9/11 but so were the Saudi elite,
Al Sabah royals of Kuwait and probably some powerful European wingnuts.Royal Dutch Shell got in on the petroleum deals by the puppet and real 'islamofascist' government the U.S. war fraud installed there and it was two Dutch men after all who trained Mohamed Atta at Jeb Bush's pal Wally Hilliard's Huffman Aviation in Venice, Florida.It would make a good fiction if it weren't true.
I wonder what LenaNYC thinks of Odigo the Israeli stock fraud that received the only supposed warning from Osama bin Laden just before 9/11 or ICTS International Menachem Atzmon and Ezral Harel whose ICTS International 'guarded' Logan Airport Boston on 9/11 ? Real business geniuses and fine examples of Israeli 'businessmen' wouldn't you say LenaNYC ?
Rothschild Runs Yukos3 Nov 2003 ... www.policestateplanning.com/rothschild_runs_yukos.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/02/israel-avigdor-lieberman-police-investigation
Israeli police recommend corruption charges against Avigdor Lieberman• Minister suspected of money laundering
Representatives of the Swedish government aren't in the habit of providing official reviews on the quality of published newspaper articles. Neither should they be. It would be dangerously close to censorship (please note that I said CLOSE to censorship, I know no one demanded the Swedish officials to censor the media) if they did.
Call the Swedish response (or lack thereof) tiresome or cynical if you wish, but I find that people often pull out the "cynicism" card when they are confronted with uncomfortable truths.
As George Bernard Shaw said; "The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who have not got it."
(Stockholm had it's jewish ghetto like other parts of Europe) and a rapidly growing Muslim population with increasing political power.
http://www.jewcy.com/tags/avigdor_lieberman
Tel Avivians Have a Headache
by Mya Guarnieri, June 2, 2009
On a recent Friday night, Tel Aviv ran out of the Israeli equivalent of Tylenol. A killer migraine throbbing away, I went to not one, not two, but six grocery stores in search of relief. "What's going on in this city?" a clerk asked me. "Everyone's got a headache."
Maybe it's because we have a lot to wrap our heads around. Tel Aviv, the capital of Israeli secularism, recently marked its 100th anniversary. But we celebrated under the pall of Jerusalem's changing-of-the-guard—including Liberman's ominous "If you want peace, prepare for war."
Anat Litvak, a 29-year-old educational psychologist, doesn't mince words. "I hate it," she says of the new government. "Netanyahu is a manipulator, a dictator." When asked if this government represents her, Litvak quickly answers, "No." Litvak feels she speaks for many Tel Avivians, "Here, I feel very much like part of the consensus," she says. "But in situations like elections you see that most of the country isn't like Tel Aviv. It's a shock.".....
As critics of this Israeli government have repeatedly argued in reference to its proposed domestic policies, this is the first government in Israel's history that has formally called into question the health of the country's democracy. Best identified with the anti-Arab incitement of Deputy Prime Minister Avigdor Lieberman, (and now cabinet member Alex Miller) and to a lesser degree, their Israel Beiteinu party's proposals to swap Israeli Arab communities for settlements, for Israelis to sign loyalty oaths to the state, obtain national ID cards, and to restrict civil rights, the concerns are wholly justified. Such a political program is patently authoritarian.
Actually and paradoxically one of my favorite authors Arthur Koestler was a Zionist in the 1920s and I believe he invented the first Hebrew crossword puzzle.He also wrote a book called
'Thirteenth th Tribe' shortly before he died on the
non-semitic origen of Eastern European Jews but I was a fan of his long before that because of his biography of Johanes Kepler who discovered the planets' eliptical orbits titled,
'The Watershed'. :
http://www.henrymakow.com/were_all_anti-semites_now.html
We're all Anti-Semites Now
June 26, 2009
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
Anti-Semitism used to refer to a racial prejudice against Jews. Now "hate" is a codeword for something else: Opposition to Zionism, a political program that many Jews find repugnant.
By equating "hate" with opposition to Zionism, organized Jewry has given everyone permission to be an anti-Semite.
In Soviet Russia, anti-Semitism was considered "counter revolutionary" and severely punished. Similarly, anti-Semitism is now a political crime in the West because it runs counter to the New World Order.
For example, a Winnipeg journalist, Leslie Hughes, was dropped as a Liberal candidate in the 2008 election for remarking on Israeli foreknowledge of the 9-11 attack in an 2003 article. She was quoting an Israeli newspaper. She taught courses on tolerance and had no feelings of hostility against Jews whatsoever. Her crime was political. (She is suing the Jewish groups.)
Not all Zionists are Jews, and not all Jews are Zionists. I am a Jew, and can only sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians, and believe that the creation of the state of Israel, was the most anti-semitic, or anti-Jewish act in the history of the Jews. After the second world war, Europe behaved like a very poorly behaved child does after a temper-tantrum. The child destroys his room, and cleans up almost all of it, but to spite his parents, he throws the stuff he doesnt care about into the closet. The stuff he doesnt care about, happened to be the Jews. That closet, happened to be Palestine. What remained of that set of toys, which Europe called Jews, were very pleased to be thrown into that closet, due to the fact that they were hidden from the destructive child. Little did this set of toys know, they were thrown into a bin, with another set of toys. This set of toys happened to be living peacefully, and had also wanted to be left alone from the destructive boy. Now the all the bins in the closet are full, and there is no place to store all his new toys. Thus, he hates the toys he just put in the bin, all broken and mangled. He can't ask his parents for a new bin, because there is no more room in the closet, and he cant get rid of them, because then his parents will know the truth of his destructiveness, so the child just sits in anger, and blames the Jew toy for all his problems and anger.
In essence, the state of Israel was only created to perpetuate anti-Semetism. Jews in the Middle East had gotten along much better with their neighbors, the muslims, than the Jews in Europe.Until the creation of the Zionist state, no muslim state slaughtered 6 million Jews. No muslim state slaughtered Jews in the Crusades, and no Jews slaughtered muslims in the crusades. Jews and Muslims are the victims of European Christiandom, but like the boy, Europe doesnt want the parents, or the People of Europe, to know. Israel is a source for hate of Jews, it is a source for goverments to provide a scape goat for the worlds problems, versus the people looking into their own governments, and finding the governments problems. Israeli's commit autrocities because they have to. Thats what their faux allies want, and they are tricked. They are a perpetual scape goat. I believe the Jews and Muslims should unite together against their oppressors, and demand that Jews can freely move back to Europe, and not be hated, yet I also believe that that the Arab Jewish minority should be allowed to remain in Palestine, as their ancestors did.
FM Lieberman is correct in using the metaphor of the Protocols. It was Henry Ford Senior's re-publication without copyright of the Protocols in the 1920's that gave enormous global credibility to that lie that never dies . Why? Ford, Senior was the most respected businessman in the world at the time. He could not withdraw what he wrote, and the Protocols are still widely published in many languages.
Now FM Bildt and Aftonbladet offer Sweden's endorsement of these accusations without evidence.
Does Sweden want to be seen in the world as intolerant and her unions even more intolerant through their ownership of Aftonbladet?
What does Sweden stand for?
Recently James Dale Davidson has been involved with Israeli mafia using leumi bank to run a 'stem cells from placentas' penny stock fraud against americans and frank carlucci of ex U.S. president George Herbert Walker Bush,et.al.'s bin Laden connected Carlyle who is not jewish and suspect in the death many years ago of Patrice Lumumba is also involved!So apparently Leumi Bank money launderers work with an ex CIA suspect in death of African leader ! And the Israeli government encourages this kind of 'business' and the U.S..government looks the other way as Americans are defrauded and money is laundered through Leumi that won't reimburse holocaust survivers whose families' money it took !
And I've already mentioned Menachem Atzmon the deceased Ezra Harel and other ex Israeli military who 'guarded Logan Airport on 9/11 as well as Marvin Bush and Kwait Al Sabah royals' Securacom stock fraud 'guarding' Dulles Airport Washington,D.C. !EVEN THE WINGNUT JOHN FOSTER DULLES WOULD BE TURNING IN HIS GRAVE....
Henry Makow makes the same point as you about Euro or German-Jewish repatriation.
http://www.henrymakow.com/hitler_was_a_godsend_for_israe.html
Hitler was a Godsend for Israel
by Henry Makow Ph.D.
If Hitler didn't exist, Zionists would have had to create him. Maybe they did.
Conspiracy Theories are a cultural phenomenon in which people choose to be cynical of the government. The concepts are utterly rediculous and go against that of human nature. There is no group of people who wants to go and dominate the earth. What would that do for them if they had absolute power? What could they do? It serves no purpose to have absolute power over the world. The idea of conspiracy theory, is that of one for the government to fill certain peoples mind with mush, so that the government will have another scape goat, other then the Jew and other minorities. This scape goat is called the "the nut job", the people trying to ruin the nation, thus strengthening a nations overall patriotism, and emboldening the conspiracy theorist. The ego does not want a New World Order, all the money in the world to be in the hands of a few families, it wants for it to be in the hands of all people. It wants to perpetuate the ego, and with one "World" Government, national egoes would be nonexistent, thus not allowing for the ego to be exerted. Racism and Conspiracy Theories allow for governments to perpetuate human slavery.
mehrdad1111's reasoning for why he thinks the jews ARE the victim here and not the actual person in the story who was killed.
Killing someone without proof is OK. But suggesting he might have had his organs removed without proof is not???
mehrdad1111 says that the poor 'Jews' AREalways guilty till they can prove their innocence whereas for everyone else its the other way around.
But that is clearly false. Stick to the facts. Stop repeating 'strawman' arguments.
The article doesn't say removal of organs in the case of Bilal was a proven fact(!???) Just that the relatives of MANY Palestinian youths killed suspected so. (Have you read the article yet, mehrdad?)
And the killing of Bilal: did he have a chance to proove his innocence before he was shot and wounded?
Or before he was kidnapped.
Or did his family have the right to question his innocence when the body was returned minus teeth and after the unpermitted autopsy/organ removal and his burial was forced in the middle of the night??
Don't you see the double standard and complete reversal of reality.
This artcile is NOT and has NOT been about 'JEWS' the world over.
That appears to be a 'jewish' self-deception.
Its about the IDF, Israeli impunity and implementation of international law and human rights.
If you keep this in that perspective then its clear that the real victim here was and still IS Bilal and his family
calling for a bit (no actually a lot) of common sense,
most of the things written about this article in Aftonbladet seems to have been in the line of
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2668732.htm
just wipping up the hate
so once again
thanks.
one simple question:
the palis have all bodies, right?
why they do not open them and prove that something is missing? why? just answer me that.
they had np to create a pallywood show about muhammad al dura beeing killed by palis fire.
All ye sound suspiciously like having seen an Al-qida recruit video-closet psychopaths.
Remove your skull caps, shave your beards, ban the veil in your family and be a person of the world. If you stay in Sweden, chill out, have a nice stiff drink (but don't get drunk !), go see a cartoon and do some greenpeace work. Hmm, most of the Jewhaters could possibly be a Jekyll and Hyde, nice at workplace and nasty at chatrooms.
Lighten up guys
Well la dee da,I'm an American too who was ripped off by Avigdor
Lieberman's pals Martin Schlaff and the sleezebag Grin brothers of
Israel who according to forbes.con are from the Ukraine.In fact
forbes.con didn't even mention Israel or the Union Bank - I had to
figure that out on my own.
As a New York American who supports the U.S.Constitution and free
speech then you must be pleased at least that I am also letting others
here know that Menachem Atzmon(convicted of money laundering between
the Israeli government and Likud Party in Israel while Ehud Olmert and
Netenyahu avoided their convictions)as well as various ex Israeli
military ran a stock fraud called called ICTS International that
guarded Logan Airport,Boston(unsuccessfully)on 9/11.Sweden nor this
website have anying to do with what I am saying any more than they
would think of censoring your freedom of speech.As an American you
should comend them.You left the land of the free and the home of the
brave to journey all they way to Sweden where they allow you to
exercise your First Amendment right from there(ALTHOUGH I HOPE THEY
AREN'T ALLOWING YOU TO BEAR ARMS,HEE,HEE).
I'm just glad Sweden feels so strongly about free speech because with
the Zionist Michael Chertoff's 'Patriot Act' we just about lost it at
home didn't we ?
Rather than your whining about my free speech I'd rather you correct
any errors of fact that I am making and if not don't go off like a
loose Israeli mortar or phosphorous bomb attack on me.Remember I'm not
a semite I mean Palestinian I am your fellow American.
Or you happy Menachem Atzmon and ICTS International ran a stock fraud
that got 3,000 of your fellow New York residents killed ? Or you happy
the real royal semites,the Al Sabah family of Kuwait,and Marvin Bush
ran the Securacom stock fraud(it went public at $8.50 per share in
1997),that got 3,000 killed in NY and was blamed by his brother W Bush
on Saddam Hussein leading to what some estimate as over a million
Iraqis killed and many American soldiers ,even women? I'm not ,but it
is your free speech to say it was better than watching a tennis match
if you want to.Go ahead and say it !
If you weren't ripped off by Lieberman's pals good for you.
And you know what ? AIPAC's(Israeli American slush fund to bribe U.S.
politicians)U.S.Representstive Jane Harman of California had her and
her husband Sydney's NYSE Harman International stock pumped up over
40% in one day recently by their pal the Sheik Al Sabah of Kuwait who
I was just discussing.But the Sheikh's loyal subject commited suicide
conveniently so he wouldn't have to explain it to the U.S.SEC who for
some reason were paying attention for a change.What do you think of
that ? Israel and Dubai wingnuts working together against Americans
and their own people's interests...
The other thing about Sweden is that it has tremendous "Dubbel moralar" or double standards. They are neutral and promote peace, yet they are the second largest arms dealer in the global community. A lot of these nuances can be found in Swedish culture and politics, YET, it is still the greatest and most progressive country on the planet. Every country has its flaws, and the fact that an Israeli has a voice in a Swedish newspaper is fantastic. The fact that people and organizations are fighting Islamophobia and anti-Semitism at a large scale is fantastic.
Continue to write and strive to balance the media here. No one else is doing it!
http://www.henrymakow.com/hitler_was_a_godsend_for_israe.html
Hitler was a Godsend for Israel
August 18, 2009
by Henry Makow Ph.D.
If Hitler didn't exist, Zionists would have had to create him. Maybe they did.
The numbers (from Edwin Black's The Transfer Agreement) tell the story. In 1927, about 15,000 of Germany's 550,000 Jews considered themselves Zionists. That's less than 2%.
The vast majority of German Jews "vehemently rejected Zionism as an enemy from within." They were Germans.... Thanks to Hitler, 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Israel between 1933 and 1941. Thanks to a "Transfer Agreement" between Nazis and Zionists, Jewish property valued at $100 million was transferred to Israel in the form of German industrial exports used to build Israel's infrastructure. The Transfer Agreement brought in tools, raw materials, heavy machinery, appliances, farm equipment as well as labor, and capital to finance expansion. Many of Israel's major industries, like textiles and the national waterworks, were thus founded...
Thanks to Hitler, the kernel of the German Jewish community was lifted up and transferred to Palestine along with their property. "Many of these people were allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories --indeed rough replicas of their very existences." .....In 1937, when the British proposed dividing Palestine into two states, the Nazis wondered if they hadn't made a mistake by creating "a Jewish Vatican" dedicated to Germany's demise. But Hitler overruled all dissenters and insisted the Transfer Agreement be continued and even expanded to other countries. Italy, Rumania, Hungary and several other countries under fascist influence signed similar agreements.....Hitler hated Jews so much he built a country for them. He could have taken all their property and kicked them out but that would have been anti-Semitic.
... The World Jewish Congress had to act pretty offended because they had a world boycott of Germany goods. But this only endeared the doughty Zionists to the Nazis. And gave the Nazis an excuse to boycott and persecute German Jews....As soon as the Nazis assumed power in 1933, the Zionists gained a visibly protected political status. After the Reichstag fire, the Nazis crushed virtually all political opposition and closed 600 newspapers. But not the Zionists nor their newspaper which was hawked from every street corner.....The Zionist uniform was the only non-Nazi uniform allowed in Germany. Same with their flag. Hebrew was mandated in Jewish schools....
We all worship Nordic Gods here,didn't you know ? Actually the Maya have some pretty neat gods and godesses too and they render them in their art much better than Judeo-Christian-Moslems do.And they don't get uptight if you render them in your own artistic style......
One can logically be anti-jewish religion,anti-islamic religion and anti-christian religion(after all to an atheist
or agnostic it is hard to tell the difference between the three) - without being 'anti-semitic'.Those Zionists who keep posting their tripe about being ant-semitic should be corrected for misusing the english or swedish or any other language their spew their propaganda from.It was that lie or myth that caused so many problems for so many centuries anyway.
In fact German Jews have a lot of physical and genetic characteristics common to Germans.And Hungarian Jews have a lot of physycal and genetic characteristics common to Hungarians, etc..Why ? Well because since their migration, probably from Khazaria on northern Caspian shore they have been a minority in a predomoninately Christian Europe.And when one mentioned rape of Jews here I would say he was correct.And this,more than marriage between Christians and Jews,which would have been discouraged by Catholic Church and rabbis ,about sums it up.Also this would explain why a patriarchical religion,judaism,would have a matrilineal inheritance of judaism.Beause often the father in Eastern Europe was a rapist of the Christian majority.And this is why the 'pure semitic race' of jews is as phoney as the Hitlerian 'pure German race'.Both Hitler and the rabbis are wrong.
Further their was a time when Swedes and Scandinavians had their own polytheistic religion (before Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi's heroes the Popes and Musolini were ever known to them.)But the Catholic Church brought and imposed Christianity upon Scandinavians by force.So these zionists should shove it where the sun don't shine just like the Nazi Pope and the Musolini loving Italian PM Berlusconi.
Do the Zionists here now wish to claim that Scandinavians Nordic gods and their worshipers had anything to do with accusing them of killing 'Jesus' ? Ha.Ha.
But the Zionists who whine here should also realize what it was like historically for them to not just to bring another religion into Christian majority countries - but they chose to bring one that specifically made the claim that its followers had an involvement in killing the god or the god's representative('Jesus') that the majority religion believed in.
Let's imagine the situation had been the reverse. It would be unthinkable for the Swedish government to issue a protest against the israeli government for something a privately owned newspaper had written. Tabloid newspaper make up stories on a regular basis, be it in the U.K., in the U.S. ("Green Baby Born"), or Sweden. Who are we kidding here? This is not about the content of some newspaper article, it's truth or verifiability. This is about what The Economist rank as a flawed democracy's lack of understanding of what free press means (Economist Intelligence Unit Index of Democracy, on Israel).
Israel has a lot to learn, just like its muslim anatagonists who not long ago attacked Scandinavian embassies, issued death threats, demanded apologies, and boycotted Scandinavian goods because of what an artist respectively a private newspaper chose to draw for fun or art and publish. I can tell you all that in Sweden everyone is free to make fun of any person or religion, and yes, that includes the king, the prime minister, Jesus, Muhammed, or any other real or perceived figure. I can also tell you that one of the few restrictions in the freedom of speech is the law against hate-speech towards ethnic groups, for example jews.
I bet few of you have even taken the time to read the article in question. It speculates, and I don't think the word "jew" is even mentioned. Please don't tell me that you actually believe everything that you read in a sleezy tabloid. It is not a research journal we are talking about here. I also wasn't many months ago that some fantasy-full article about Sweden appeared in an israeli newspaper. Like probably most Swedes did, I just shook my head. Grow up, learn what real democracy means, and get a life!
P.S. Before you use the nowadays increasingly diluted and meaningless accusation of "anti-semitism" that Israel randomly uses to lash out against anyone criticizing its policies, maybe you should be aware that the Swede Raoul Wallenberg is credited with having saved the lifes of about 100,000 jews from the Holocaust. He is an israeli honorary citizen. Many other Swedes as well as the Swedish government saved thousands of other jews by helping them flee to neutral Sweden. (Ask them how "anti-semitic" Sweden is!) There are 18,000 jews in Sweden, many extremely successful and well-respected. D.S.
There were NO rabbis trading in organs. The US arrested about 44 people of all ethnicities for corruption, including several ultra-orthodox Jews. One of those ultra-orthodox - NOT a rabbi - had been doing organ-matching for profit, as is legal in (among other places) India and China.
David is wrong - his criticism of the Israeli reaction is blaming the victim. Israel does have a right to represent both its citizens and Jews as a group, and its reaction was appropriate and if anything tooo well-tempered. Israel should have either broken relations with Sweden, or sued the Aftonbladet for libel, or both.
La Figaro's anti-semitism confirms that false publicity such as the Aftonbladet and other tabloids is libel.
Jonas, you sound like the German industrialists who excused their providing the machinery of mass murder by also making diapers. Accepting Jewish refugees (10,000 not 18,000) does NOT give Sweden the right to perpetuate blood libels. My helping an old lady across the street does NOT give me the right to murder or steal. Apparently, Swedes not only cannot recognise anti-Semitism, they also need lessons in basic morality.
The comments above have confirmed my impression of Sweden as an anti-Semitic cesspool.