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Aftonbladet's organ harvesting allegations are ludicrous from a medical perspective, writes Andrea Meyerhoff MD, Associate Professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, who also argues that Sweden missed an opportunity to "reject anti-Semitism and reaffirm principles of good journalism."
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The best thing is that the Israel government investigates the matter. Anything inhuman happens in Israel doesn't necessarily mean that its government has done it, may be some people and organizations do some dirty businesses!
Attacking the Swedish newspaper is the worst possible reaction at all - it just proves that Israel is far from being a democracy.
Before Swedes start calling Israel undemocratic for criticizing an inflammatory, sleazy article without editorial substance, in a respected daily newspaper that should have known better than to fall for the blood libel scam, they should invest a little time reexamining their own history and considering what other inherited myths leave them vulnerable to such outrageous manipulation, racism, and unwarranted hatred. It should have been Swedes that called out Aftonbladet.
Sweden does not owe AIPAC, Israel, or the Zionists anything. Period.
Look to your past Prime Minister, Omert, who is now being indicted. Your country is corrupt.
I have set aside some rocks that I have named Omert that I have our Rottweiler growl and roll about and attack when she plays with rocks.
* Trying to avoid the real issue, and instead going to doubt Boström memory. Aren't you people tired of this technique? Can't you be more creative and come with a new one? Always attacking the person, and avoiding discussing his/her ideas!!
*The New "Blood Libel"? a great article you need to read, try to do it in the morning, as I really would love to ruin your day hXXp://counterpunch.org/weir08282009.html
Aftonbladet is a popular newspaper with many readers but can hardly be described as a "respected daily newspaper", reserve that title to DN.
I personally refuse to buy Aftonbladet because of its "sensation-type" of news reporting.
Go to BBC News online for the good free news!
Yes, this story of killing people and then taking their organs is, as the author points out "medically impossible"! You cannot harvest the organs of dead people straight off the street. The body still has to be alive to harvest the organs. There is a technique where the transplant team will "pull the plug" and wait for the heart to stop, but this technique results in fewer viable organs!
IMAGINE THAT! The transplant team is standing right there waiting for the heart to stop beating, and they still have a poor success rate! The technique that really works is when the person is declared brain dead and the organs are taken while the body is on life support.
I guess people are just too lazy to do the research themselves. It is too easy to believe the IMPOSSIBLE LIE that to find out the factual truth!
So WHY SHOULD ANY INVESTIGATION, why WOULD ANY INVESTIGATION need to be done? Why should anyone have to defend themselves against charges that cannot possibly be true?
As far as WHY Israel is so vocal about this Swedish article? You have to CONSIDER THE SOURCE! I saw somewhere that Aftonbladet has the largest circulation of any newspaper in Sweden. SWEDEN, you know, that neutral country that is trusted around the world because of its truthfulness and honesty!!!! The Aftonbladet is NOT seen as a RAG newspaper, like the one the AUTHOR was describing where 'Dick Cheney Abducted by Aliens.'
So an article coming out of the largest newspaper in Sweden that says 'Our sons are plundered of their organs', carries a lot of weight! Just look at all the idiots who are writing in believing IT MUST BE TRUE!
I DEMAND THAT AMERICA INVESTIGATES DICK CHENEY's ABDUCTION BY ALIENS! IF the US wants to deny its human stealing accusations, it should investigate all those claims under international supervision!
You absolutly right.
But the question is: why such newspaper (or so called) as the Aftonbladet has the largest circulation of any newspaper in Sweden?
Perhaps because its content targets mainly that kind of neo-Swedes not known to be particulary favorable to Israel or to the Western civilization.
And this population is growing quickly. Just an exemple from Canada: ten years ago there was fifty thousands neo-Canadians from Pakistan, today they are one million. Twenty times more. At this rate, could you imagine how many neo-Swedes it will be in ten years? Twice the "original" population. It's time to buy some shares of Aftonbladet...
Scarry!
Instead of self reflection of your own colaboration with the Nazis during the last war under the guise 'Neutrality' you are in a denial mode of any wrong duing during this phase of your miserable lives as propagators of the latest blood libel against the Jews.
If you would have tried to offend the Moslem in a similar fashion, heads would have rolled.
Andrea Meyerhoff MD: ''How is it that an American scandal..
ends up a Scandinavian-modern version of medieval anti-Semitism?''
answer:Because the Israeli-American admitting to human organ
trafficking has both American and Israeli connections.)
Andrea Meyerhoff MD:''The government of Sweden should get with the programme and do the same.''
my reply:What 'program' does she mean? Fox News and CNN that are both pro Israel and pro-war and support the Honduras coup led by U.S. trained military over the people of Honduras? Or rthat covered up the Israelis of ICTS International who 'protected Logan Airport,Boston on 9/11? Did the Jewish family who I believe owns most TV media in Sweden and has a family member representing Sweden as Ambassador to Israel cover the fact that Israeli ex milittary and the criminals Menachem Atzmon and Ezra Harel 'guarded' Logan Airport Boston on 9/11 and that they were also running a stock fraud as well as a probable 'security' fraud ? Or that Marvin Bush and members of Al Sabah royalty of Kuwait were doing the same at Dulles Airport Washington,D.C. on 9/11?! I don't think so but any Swede may correct me if I'm wrong.
I would say to Dr.Meyerhoff that the media including Aftonbladet and more so the TV media ciontrollesd by the Jewish-Swedish family owning the TV MEDIA AND SEVERAL NEWSPAPERS i BELIEVE WERE CERTAINLY 'WITH THE PROGRAM' ON AND AFTER 9/11 AND NEVER REPORTED WHO WAS GUARDING THOSE AREAS ON 9/11.So now you know.Why didn't Swedish media report these facts .But as an American I can't criticise because our media is controlled by Zionazis who own CNN and Fox News.
Who guarded Logan Airport on 9/11 ?
ALL THE 9-11 AIRPORTS SERVICED BY ONE ISRAELI OWNED COMPANY
Without such discovery process, ICTS-International would never be compelled by a court of law ...
whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ICTS.html
Bush-Linked Company Handled Security for the WTC, Dulles and United
Airlines ... Marvin Bush connections to 9/11, ... SEC filings also show ...KuwAm has been linked to the Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and a member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah,on the board of Stratesec.
www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm
Grow up!
Does one have to disprove every stupid theory propagated by lonely and miserable souls?
The loser in this exercise is the Swedish press. It has lost all it's validity and credibility. If a Swedish scientist makes a great discovery and the Swedish press writes about it, no one should believe it until a real journalist from another country verifies it. It's like the boy who cried 'wolf' once too much. That's how a country like Sweden will pay for it's hatred.
The Swedes can keep their VOLVO'S and ASCO'S , because I for one, will not be bying any.
The Swedish press is not he only culprit in this mess.
All Swedes stand condemned for condoning this attrocity and allowing it to fester.
Shame on you Sweden!
Clearly, the Jew-hating Swedish government is to blame *sarcasm*
If middle ages are already mentioned, I would recommend to read prof. Ariel Toaff book "Blood passover": blood rites haven't been just libel, it was actually practised by some ashkenazi sects. And mind you, prof. Ariel Toaff is a jew himself.
Statement that muslims in Sweden are respected more than jews also does not hold any critics - there have been Lars Vilks drawings os Muhammad dog published in newspapers.
now here people are busy talking about neo-canadians and neo-swedish.its really crazy.we are not complaining of cultural infuence from other countries.once it becomes a problem i tink the goverment will have a solution
Because it was not a goal to steal organs. The accusation is that they removed the organs from MORTALLY WOUNDED people. People who were dying anyway and were for some reason transported to Israel for a week to do an autopsy when cause of death is obvious. Medically possible? Of course it is. It's not recommended to do organ transplants of shot people (tetanus risk) but when you're desperate you're desperate.
Nice try though. At least someone tries to disprove the article...
@ ofdesign , mdl123. I think you both need psychiatrist opinion and even they can not help you because of your close mind and running far away from truth. Yes truth but ofcourse ''bitter''.
We know that organs were removed form other bodies for medical students to do research on.
Secondly, even if they were he apparently WAS alive though wounded when he was abducted.
Thirdly, Bilal's case was just one example that the journalist witnessed of a youth coming back with a huge surgical scar. So what is the explanation for it?
Any of you supporters of the IDF and Israel in this case got one?
Finally, the main issue for me is that the IDF could be policeman, judge, jury and executioner for this youth all without a word being exchanged with him.
THAT really is the story that's getting passed over here again and again.
Well at least they didn't use Rachel COREY'S BODY FOR ORGAN TRANSPLANTS....
Background
Corrie grew up in Olympic, Washington, and graduated from Capitol High School. She had been a senior at The Evergreen State College, where she studied the arts and international relations. She took a leave of absence to participate in resistance against the IDF as a member of the Palestinian-led ISM. In her home town, she was known in the local peace movement and was an active member of the Olympia Movement for Justice and Peace.
Corrie was the daughter of Craig Corrie, an insurance executive, and Cindy Corrie, a school volunteer and flutist...
On January 18, 2003, Corrie left the United States for the Gaza Strip. Once there, she received two days of training in non-violent resistance techniques and philosophy before joining other ISM activists to participate in direct action. Through February and March she participated in a variety of actions including:
Fatal incident in Rafah
On March 16, 2003, Corrie was one of a group of seven ISM activists (made of three British and four Americans) who were attempting to disrupt IDF demolition operations where armoured bulldozers (Caterpillar D9)s are used to level buildings and vegetation along the security road near the border between the Gaza Strip and Egypt at Rafah....
On this particular day, two bulldozers, supported by a Nagmachon combat engineering vehicle (CEV), were either ripping up shrubbery (according to Israeli officials) or demolishing homes (according to the protestors). Corrie was wearing a red reflective jacket...Corrie was standing in front of a house owned by her friend Samir Masri (some reports have his name as Samir Nasrallah), who is a Palestinian physician......
As the bulldozers move slowly forward they push up a pile of soil and rubble in front of them... It appears that Corrie followed this technique, initially sitting or kneeling, and then standing to clamber up on the pile of debris in front of the bulldozer. For a while she was on top of this pile, looking at the driver. At some point, Corrie fell off the pile of rubble, possibly having lost her footing....
The driver continued forwards. The blade of the bulldozer passed over Corrie's body, but the tracks of the bulldozer did not, and the bulldozer stopped. The bulldozer then reversed clear of Corrie's body, causing the blade to pass over her a second time. Corrie suffered massive injuries....
Of course organs can be used from a 2 days old dead that lay in a grave - who does not know it? Especially the smart iranians...
And Khamees Hasan - there are 60 lines of medical explanation (unlike in Aftonbladet), probably your reading capability is a bit deteriorated from being so loving and tolerant towards the Jews. And yes - accept facts of no blood of christian children in Matzas - or you ARE an anti-semite...
It is Aftonbladet's responsibility to prove its claims against the IDF, not the IDF's responsibility to prove its innocence.
Every sane person who has read that article knows it's tripe. Aftonbladet publishes tripe on a daily basis. That is not what this is about, for heaven's sake! The government simply won't review newspaper articles. If it had to officially condemn every newspaper article that any group of people could find offensive, they wouldn't have any time to, you know, govern.
The Israelis can condemn the author of the article or even Aftonbladet for publishing it all they want. I agree with them that the article was a farce. But demanding that the Swedish government should officially condemn shows a clear lack of understanding how the Swedish freedom of speech works. It's petulant and petty to make such a big issue out of this.
It certainly doesn't help that people like Andrea Meyerhoff makes these kinds of inane statements to the press.
i cant believe how people in Sweden are stupid and believe in really crappy story.
People don't like Jews because ,Jews are very superior in everything and everywhere .G_ d give m this gift ,and Who no like Jews not like G-d.G-D give Jews land and nobody no have right take this land.
OK Guys G-D bless AMERICA and ISRAEL.
Oslo Accords Legitimizes Israel Water Theft From Palestinians?
http://sirenschronicles.com/2009/08/24/israel-keeps-water-from-palestinians/
Keep your foreign minister at home!
This article should have been rejected as pure propaganda. Dr. Meyerhoff knows full well that organs are routinely harvested from gunshot and severe accident victims around the world, including Johns Hopkins.
She is trying to confuse us with the issue of this being a deliberate shooting for harvest instead just a cheap profit motivated crime of opportunity.
People are allowed freedom of speech and that is what this is all about. We condemn other countries for sensoring what their people see and hear. It is so very important for the development of free thinking!
One other thing, If they didn't do it then why are they so defensive about it? If it is not true then say that , shrug and let it go.
Whether the article is badly written or whatever,
whether jews are upset by this or whatever,
the FACTS remain that this reporting is not unsubstantiated, nor an isolated example of the same story, nor is it based on rumour and libel. You need to do more research and be more open to conclusions that you clearly find unthinkable.
As another reader has suggested, if you are at all interesetd in the facts then read the following article which appears to be touching just the tip of the ice-berg:
http://counterpunch.org/weir08282009.html
Daniel Böström and Aftonbladet I salute you for bringing this back into the public domain.
Bilal Achmad Ghanem - repeatedly shot, then kidnapped then killed without ANY proof of any crime - may you R.I.P. (remember that thing... what was it ...er, ...oh yeah, "innocent till PROVEN GUILTY" as you Israeli supporters keep protesting?)
May your sorrowing family and all the other relatives of killed youths in the occupied territories find comfort in the fact that the ex-judicial killings of their near and dear ones by the IDF has not been nor will be forgotten.
I hope the veracity or not of the many reports of unpermitted organ theft by Israeli forces be investigated thoroughly and honestly by the Israeli authorities.
To Carl Bildt, respect!
having said that, I dont think this is an example of that. The reporter only stated what the Palestinians are accusing Israel of...he didnt report that this is what is happening.
They are brainless...
Why it is so scary for jews to accept that they are also able to commit crimes and then move forward? Look for example at brave danes: they are not afraid to accept that it was Danish king, who is in charge of the blood bath in Stockholm some centuries ago.
What we read in all those latest comments including the original Aftonbladet article is not reality but a stigmatic reaction to a mirror reality; it is instant, flat, violent and almost in all cases is ugly.
Most of those writing here are making faces, some violent and scary, some funny and welcoming.
You will never fill like Jew or Palestinian kid that has been hated and beaten because their faith on this earth. This is poor to seat in front of a 20" flat screen in well conditions and feel involved by making faces in to the mirror.
Shame on you.
I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SAY THIS but -
You guys really need to watch MORE TV shows, like CSI. Everyone out there who watches ANY TV knows that those big scars on dead bodies, usually in the shape of a "Y" are from AUTOPSIES!
Why would Israel autopsy dead people that they shot and/or killed? MANY reasons! Mainly because maybe the Israelis are not the horrible barbarians some people NEED them to be!
Maybe they want to know who really killed who and how. It is one thing to kill someone who is shooting back and it something totally different when a prisoner who had no signs of injury suddenly dies in captivity.
The bottom line is that civilized countries do autopsies to find out the cause of death.
Islam does not believe in any desecration of dead bodies so I can see how that would freak some of them out!
Read on...
'From 1935 until the end of the Second World War, the 'Nuremberg Laws' were applied by the clergy of the Church of Sweden in their state function of announcing marriage banns and considering impediments to marriage. These laws prohibited marriage between Germans of 'Aryan' descent and
Germans or foreigners of Jewish extraction. Sweden's application of the legislation took place in accordance with a Hague Convention of 1902. From September 1937, Swedes wishing to marry a German of 'Aryan' descent had to sign an assurance that none of their grandparents on either side
had belonged to the Jewish race or religion. This was based on a strong recommendation from the legal department of the Swedish Ministry for Foreign Affairs, but lacked historical and democratic legitimacy and was, moreover, alien to the Swedish sense of justice.
In 1940, for example, Sweden recognised a judgment in the German Landesgericht court in Berlin annulling a current marriage between a German 'Aryan' and a Swedish citizen of Jewish descent, who was thus declared an unmarried mother, while the couple's son was retroactively classified as
illegitimate. Although the Ministry for Foreign Affairs admitted that it lacked authority to interpret Swedish law, its instructions came in practice to have the effect that a German judgment was observed in Sweden. Another, similar case of annulment of marriage on the German legation's
request affected a married couple who were summoned to appear before the Kolbäck district court, in the Snevringe rural court district, and describe the circumstances of their marriage in the United Kingdom. Thus, this court showed considerably greater alacrity in following the German legation's request than the Ministry's somewhat more sluggish legal department. However, the annulment decision was never recorded in Sweden, probably because of the clergy's refusal.
Neither members of the Riksdag (Swedish Parliament), the Minister of Justice nor the courts behaved in line with their counterparts in the Netherlands, where all mention of Dutch 'Aryans' or 'Jews' was rejected on the grounds that the country's inhabitants was classified only as Dutch citizens. Nor were the German forms rejected by the Swedes, as sometimes happened in the Netherlands since they were not based on the legislation concerning civil law that both countries had undertaken to comply with but, rather, had only been sanctioned by the application regulations of public law.'
Want to know more? read your own 'Vetenskapsradet'
or agnostic it is hard to tell the difference between the three) - without being 'anti-semitic'.Those Zionists who keep posting their tripe about being ant-semitic should be corrected for misusing the english or swedish or any other language their spew their propaganda from.It was that lie or myth that caused so many problems for so many centuries anyway.
In fact German Jews have a lot of physical and genetic characteristics common to Germans.And Hungarian Jews have a lot of physycal and genetic characteristics common to Hungarians, etc..Why ? Well because since their migration, probably from Khazaria on northern Caspian shore they have been a minority in a predomoninately Christian Europe.And when one mentioned rape of Jews here I would say he was correct.And this,more than marriage between Christians and Jews,which would have been discouraged by Catholic Church and rabbis ,about sums it up.Also this would explain why a patriarchical religion,judaism,would have a matrilineal inheritance of judaism.Beause often the father in Eastern Europe was a rapist of the Christian majority.And this is why the 'pure semitic race' of jews is as phoney as the Hitlerian 'pure German race'.Both Hitler and the rabbis are wrong.
Further their was a time when Swedes and Scandinavians had their own polytheistic religion (before Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi's heroes the Popes and Musolini were ever known to them.)But the Catholic Church brought and imposed Christianity upon Scandinavians by force.So these zionists should shove it where the sun don't shine just like the Nazi Pope and the Musolini loving Italian PM Berlusconi.
Do the Zionists here now wish to claim that Scandinavians Nordic gods and their worshipers had anything to do with accusing them of killing 'Jesus' ? Ha.Ha.
But the Zionists who whine here should also realize what it was like historically for them to not just to bring another religion into Christian majority countries - but they chose to bring one that specifically made the claim that its followers had an involvement in killing the god or the god's representative('Jesus') that the majority religion believed in.
That would be worse than walking around with a sign or your back saying,'Kick me'.It would be funny if it weren't so tragic.I mean that would be like me going to Israel and saying I wanted to shiiit on the Russian mafiosi and Israeli Finance Minister ,Avigdor Lieberman's,beard !How do you think that would go over ? Ha Ha Heeeee
You need to chill. Most well educated people know that Sweden is a very hypocritical country with a laughable moral superiority complex. Its business elites are also amongst the world's greediest. It used to be highly regarded for producing pretty, free spirited blondes, but advances in hair dye technologies have removed that competitive attribute. There is still IKEA...but oops...like wasn't the founder a Nazi sympathiser. Oh well.....
Oslo Accords Legitimizes Israel Water Theft From Palestinians?
http://sirenschronicles.com/2009/08/24/isr...m-palestinians/
What sort of purpose is served by performing autopsies on people whom Israeli forces have themselves just killed? Errm... Isn't that normally to discover the CAUSE of death?
Also, it seems a bit strange to perform autopsies on all people killed in action. What is the purpose of that?
That said, I highly doubt the Israeli government would let its army harvest organs from Palestinians killed in action. But I assume there are crooks in Israel just as there are in all countries. I think the authorities in Israel should investigate it further!
Talking about Sweden´s role in WWII seems a bit irrelecan in my opinion.
Human life is sacred among Jews and Christians but does not have the same value among Moslems.
How else could you explain the killing of innocents by so called 'suicide bombers'?
By the way, whoever called those Moslem terrorists 'freedom fighters', think again.
How come most of their victims are Moslems as well?
Whom are they trying to free in Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan....
ANYONE who wonders about this organ harvesting issue only has to search the web regarding organ harvesting and the answers will be come very clear. Read my "PULL THE PLUG" in my previous post and you will see why TIME is EXTREMELY critical in organ harvesting!
Then mysticbumwipe wants to know about the bodies "...coming back with a huge surgical scar. So what is the explanation for it?", he asks.
When it is explained to be from an autopsy, he then does a Peewee Herman and says I knew that! But then he wants to know Why would Israel autopsy dead people that they shot and/or killed?
I had already explained earlier but because of motivated reasoning, he probably missed it so I will reprint it here again.
Why would Israel autopsy dead people that they shot and/or killed? MANY reasons! Mainly because maybe the Israelis are not the horrible barbarians some people NEED them to be! (oops, I just lost mysticbw again)
Maybe they want to know who really killed who and how. It is one thing to kill someone who is shooting back and it something totally different when a prisoner who had no signs of injury suddenly dies in captivity.
IMHO, the FACT that they are doing autopsies shows that they care about the deaths and determining the exact cause of death. (damn, I just lost mysticbw again) Results of the autopsy; "I thought we killed him but it turns out the fatal shot did not come from one of our guns!"
Some people cannot hear what they DO NOT want to hear! Even when faced with the FACTS! That is when the COGNITIVE DISSONANCE kicks in!
Let's imagine the situation had been the reverse. It would be unthinkable for the Swedish government to issue a protest against the israeli government for something a privately owned newspaper had written. Tabloid newspaper make up stories on a regular basis, be it in the U.K., in the U.S. ("Green Baby Born"), or Sweden. Who are we kidding here? This is not about the content of some newspaper article, it's truth or verifiability. This is about what The Economist rank as a flawed democracy's lack of understanding of what free press means (Economist Intelligence Unit Index of Democracy, on Israel).
Israel has a lot to learn, just like its muslim anatagonists who not long ago attacked Scandinavian embassies, issued death threats, demanded apologies, and boycotted Scandinavian goods because of what an artist respectively a private newspaper chose to draw for fun or art and publish. I can tell you all that in Sweden everyone is free to make fun of any person or religion, and yes, that includes the king, the prime minister, Jesus, Muhammed, or any other real or perceived figure. I can also tell you that one of the few restrictions in the freedom of speech is the law against hate-speech towards ethnic groups, for example jews.
I bet few of you have even taken the time to read the article in question. It speculates, and I don't think the word "jew" is even mentioned. Please don't tell me that you actually believe everything that you read in a sleezy tabloid. It is not a research journal we are talking about here. I also wasn't many months ago that some fantasy-full article about Sweden appeared in an israeli newspaper. Like probably most Swedes did, I just shook my head. Grow up, learn what real democracy means, and get a life!
P.S. Before you use the nowadays increasingly diluted and meaningless accusation of "anti-semitism" that Israel randomly uses to lash out against anyone criticizing its policies, maybe you should be aware that the Swede Raoul Wallenberg is credited with having saved the lifes of about 100,000 jews from the Holocaust. He is an israeli honorary citizen. Many other Swedes as well as the Swedish government saved thousands of other jews by helping them flee to neutral Sweden. (Ask them how "anti-semitic" Sweden is!) There are 18,000 jews in Sweden, many extremely successful and well-respected. D.S.
http://www.counterpunch.org/weir08282009.html
It's just more propaganda from Delta!
Bravo!
and Moslems fighting Russians (Beslan massacre), Moslems fighting Chinese (Uighur), Moslems fighting Africans (Darfur) , in a word, they are fighting with the whole world.
About what?
Why is it that whenever Israel is shed in a bad light everyone starts yelling anti-semitism at the top of their voices?
Yes israel is a primarily Jewish nation, but how does accusing a person or several persons of commiting a crime have anything whatsoever to do with their religious beliefs?
How does accusing a person or a few persons who happen to be Jewish become an attack against everyone in the world who is Jewish?
Any of the following believers can potentialy commit henous crimes: Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Jains, Sikhs, Rastafari, Zoroastrians and even Jews.
It doesn't make any sense whatsoever to equate acusations against a few people of one religion as an all out attack against all followers of that religion and the basis of their beleifs (Unless that be that "no one of us can do any worng")
Some of the worst cases of racial discrimination and hate are to be gathered from the West bank and what has happened and continues to happen each day on the palestinian side of the wall.
So wether this article is true or not, and of course it may truely not be, I ask is the word jew mentioned or alluded to even once in the article?
Will sing in every football match with sweden.
Cheers
Bongo8
GDP per capita in the West Bank and Gaza comes to $3,380, much higher than in Egypt and significantly higher than in Syria or Jordan. Why should any Palestinian 'refugee' resettle in a neighboring Arab country?
Why should either Israelis or Jews condemn the accusation against Rabbis in New-Jersey.First and foremost they are not accused of illigal trade of organs but with other charges.
Secondly,they are individuals like yourself do you condemn any Swede who commits a crime?
Your stance is the vivid example of Antisemitism but you know I don't give a damn cuz I ma happy to live in my independent country Israel.Long live Israel!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8237287.stm
..."Scores of people are reported killed after a Nato air strike blew up two fuel tankers hijacked by the Taliban in northern Afghanistan.
The governor of Kunduz province told the BBC that Taliban leaders were among at least 90 killed. Witnesses said locals extracting fuel also died.
Nato said its commanders believed that only insurgents were in the vicinity
But Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said reports of civilian deaths were being investigated"...
90 people; most civiiians...are killed by forces includes europe solgiers...
is not it time to condemm europe???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2009/09/04/bts.indo.quake.survivor.cnn
You can follow the links below including to Bollyn's site which has much more info than I can post here.I have never met him but he studied at U.C.Santa Cruz and I lived in Santa Cruz which is where I briefly met CIA Chief Leon Panetta who was my Congressman at the time.Small world indeed.But there is more !
I warned Aftonbladet and Donald Boström above about NY Zionist 'justice' using New York Judge Alvin Hellerstein who has blocked 9/11 families legal discovery at ever turn - for how many years now !? Well,as it turns out there is a
Ran Hellerstein, age 58 who is Executive Vice President and Co-General Manager of Elbit Systems Ltd.'s Aerospace Division Haifa, Israel !This info is thanks to Christopher Bollyn.So first check the recent news re Norway,Elbit and the Israeli government.Check out Bollyn's website for yourselves.
online.wsj.com/article/SB125197496278482849.html
By ELIZABETH ADAMS
LONDON -- Norway's Finance Ministry said Thursday it has excluded Israel's Elbit Systems Ltd. from the country's vast global pension-fund portfolio because of ethical concerns...
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3771870,00.html
Foreign Ministry summons Norwegian ambassador over Elbit decision
Ynetnews - ‎11 hours ago‎
Yossi Gal, director-general of the Foreign Ministry, summoned the Norwegian ambassador to Israel following his government's decision to exclude Elbit ...
bollyn.com/index.php#article_11310
Christopher Bollyn outside his home in suburban Chicago after being assaulted and tortured with a TASER by ..undercover tactical team in front of his wife and 8-year-old daughter in August 2006....
Israel's Super-Thermite Lab
August 26, 2009
The thesis of my book, Solving 9-11: The Deception that Changed the World, is that a small gang of high-level Zionist extremists carried out 9-11. This group centers around the senior Israeli terrorist, Shimon Peres, who is currently president of Israel...Alvin K. Hellerstein is devoted to protecting Israel. He has obstructed a 9-11 trial for 8 years...
Some members of the family emigrated to Palestine while others went to America. The ones that went to Palestine later went to America, and vice-versa. The family is one of the founding families of the Zionist state... Alvin K. Hellerstein, who is currently ruling over the 9-11 litigation..
By the way, can we please leave ideas of a Jewish conspiracy on 9/11 out of this thread, which has nothing to do with 9/11. This is about organ trafficking and freedom of speech - and to some about negative attitudes towards Israel and/or Jews - but I think we can all agree that this article has absolutely NOTHING to do with 9/11.
Attacking the Swedish newspaper is the worst possible reaction at all - it just proves that Israel is far from being a democracy.)
if any body want to see in video such these crimes, please send to sami6david@yahoo.com, I can send you a similar crime of Jewish solders in video.
It is not as if anti-Semitism is non-existent - it has a long history in Europe and every student of that history is aware of it's most terrible consequences, culminating in the Holocaust.
See what you make of this - as a feature of that long history, still in the making and if unchecked every step of the way could lead to a wave of public sentiment which starts with a little " innocent"/ innocuous" fire fanned by cheering spectators but for that determination: NEVER AGAIN!
http://www.tau.ac.il/Anti-Semitism/asw2001-2/bachner.htm
(unsuccessfully),Logan Airport Boston on 9/11/01.Menachem Atzmon as apparently any of you Israelites here know had been convicted previously in Israel of laundering money between the Israel government and Ehud Olmert's and Benjamin Netanyahu 's Likud Party.Yet still the U.S. government allowed them in the U.S. to incorporate on now VP Joe Biden's state of Delaware and Judge Alvin Hellerstein ,who appears to be related to Ran Hellerstein of Elbit Systems that Norway recently divested from,hs covered this up as New York 'judge' for EIGHT YEARS now !
Do you think Israel should break international nuclear laws and have nuclear arms and be the only nation on earth that does not sign any agreements particularly when they were greatly responsible for 9/11 by allowing Mohamed Atta et.al. to board those planes on 9/11 in the first place! And why has NY Zionist judge Hellerstein related to Israeli military industrial complex covered up ? Thousands died and jumped to their deaths and I will accept and incompetence theory rather than conspiracy theory but that then means Israeli military is too incompetent to be illegally harboring those nukes !
And some of our American leaders need to be scrutinized as well.Can you read U.S.SEC filings ?
Quote from early post 9/11 SEC Filing with link:
http://www.secinfo.com/dUScp.1r.htm
Icts International NV · 20-F/A · For 12/31/03
Filed On 7/22/04 10:10am ET · SEC File 0-28542 · Accession Number 1012118-4-20
We face significant potential liability claims.
As a result of the September 11th terrorists attacks numerous lawsuits have been commenced against us and our U.S. subsidiary. The cases arise out of airport security services provided for United Flight 175 out of Logan Airport in Boston, Massachusetts which crashed into the World Trade Center. In addition, to the present claims additional claims may be asserted. The outcome of these or additional cases is uncertain. If there is an adverse outcome with respect to any of these claims which is not covered by insurance, then there may be a significant adverse impact on us....
http://www.secinfo.com/dUScp.21b.htm#1vfr
The following table lists the directors and executive officers of ICTS.
Age Postion
Ezra Harel(deceased) 52 Chairman of the Supervisory Board
Menachem Atzmon 58 Member of the Supervisory Board
M. Albert Nissim 69 Member of the Supervisory Board, Secretary
et.al