November 21, 2009
Published: 15 Sep 09 08:02 CET
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Students from outside the European Union (EU) may soon be required to pay 1000 kronor ($143) just to apply for admission to Swedish colleges and universities.
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I do not have a particular opinion about application fees but it is not true that higher education is free. I am spending up to 10000 SEK every months for this or that. Besides, quite much people are returning their countries although they would like to stay because the job market is not enough.
"Tuition" is free. 10,000 SEK per month for this and that? Yes, that is called food, rent and incidentals. Welcome to reality. If this seems like a lot, you can always go to the US and pay 25,000 dollars tuition for a midlevel college per year and also shell out your 10, 000 SEK per month for this and that. Considering foreigners currently get the same benefits of school that Swedes do, who do pay taxes in this country, I would complain a little less and thank a little more. The gravy train seems to be ending.
Very good idea. I would have loved to do that if I had the opportunity.
@hpunlimited
I dont know about others but I DID really had the intentions of giving back to the system from which I took my higher education.
Now I'm working in a neighboring country and still have my further educational process running in sweden. Hope I will in some way contribute to that country in future.
But if you look from another point of view that education is a natural right of human and everyone regardless of any financial view or social level should be allowed to have free right of education, it doesn't make sense anymore!
(Please consider that many prosperous students are often among the lowest social levels that are always face with financial problems in their career.)
In addition, we can't say that foreign students are not paying tax because they are paying tax during their living period in Sweden when they are going for shopping,traveling,renting,eating and so on. Also, they can be considered as long-term tourists who are spending money from their saving account and injecting money to the Swedish banks!
Nevertheless, VHS is not going to charge for application fees merely. They are going to charge also for tuition fees!. So, I think that after that, there is no inclination for non-European students to come Sweden and study while they have much better choices to choose!
Is it all the swedes wanted?!
I do agree some. Think otherway round. Foreigners those who are working in Sweden are paying TAXES and they would not get the same benifits as the Swedes get after their retirement. Where is the foreigners paid TAX money going? Everyone in Sweden is paying taxes in any way.It doesnt matter wheather he/she is a Europien/noneuropien, all are taxalbe and all are qualified for social benifits. Sweden is not inviting foreignes for free, its all for their country growth and it might be a mutual benifit for both.
will this effect only 3rd world countries. in the little very fine print at the bottom of the page. it will say all modern world states are not to pay this fee!
Its a wake up call...the survival of the fittest.Yes many do it and many more are still doing it but its for thier own good and anyone in thier shoes will do just the same
Keep it up swedish international---residence students!!!
Ofcourse i am agree about fees for application thats a good idea. but fees for universities will not work...no body will come to sweden and instead go to canada or australia witha good weather. when lots of internationals come so money come to sweden.....
By the way, some of you posting that ''these international students don't want to stay in Sweden after completing their education, so they are not viable for Sweden''...have you carefully reviewd Swedish immigration policy and their job market? What is the future of Sweden for a foreign student? No future.....Will a foreign student be able to get a work permit after completing his degree? NO....Will he be able to get a good job here without knowing Swedish?..No....all good jobs are reserve for Swedes....foreigners can only do odd jobs....so, why should a student stay here, where everything is kept for Swedes...Why they would not try for America or Canada, which are the land of equal opportunities.....?????Any answer???
I think Swedes have to learn a lot of thinks from other countries like US, Canada, Australia, UK.....
How ilogical is to pay for education to foreigners with our taxes?
I think it is an excellent inniciative.
I think a better proposal would be stop allowing prospective students doing crap degrees which the ecconomy don't need and adding more to the tax payers bill. I think its a real case that Sweden needs foreigners for there institutions and that includes the Karolinska Institute. Sweden has a superb education system but the university system and quality worries me. I think it shows a true prospective when you go... USA have Harvard, UK have Oxford, Germany have Technical University. And all these institutions have foreigners, don't have a ridiculous entry fee and are know world wide. If the foreingers had a choice of university they choose the swedish one as its cost effective, otherwise the other three mentioned outshine.
Also who does not know in the world that there are many privately owned bogus institutions are running in the uk just to get the foreign currency to feed to their economic system. All the time on media we can hear the news that now rules are going to be made strict and the other time we hear that the rules are going to be made easier for foreigners becasue the reality is, it depends on when they need more money. Not only this, to pretend to the world that how much competent, our institutions and we are.Ofcourse it is necessary to keep the system running on long run. Well this is right that they have gained true repute for some institutions but this is being used for wrong political means now. Its the same in US.
Anyway there is one more thought, perhaps the swedish government is under high stress from some externally more politically involved factors to stop free education as mainly the people from poor countries are getting benefits from this. How the difference between the poor and the rich can be secured if the swedish kind of systems will continue to exist. I am guessing it and perhaps I am 100% right in it. You will also think the same way if you ponder in the political structure in the world since after the US Afghan attack.
Please do think that our world is getting more risky day by day. We need to stand against who are using good things for wrong means rather to be victimed of some wrong politicians in the world.
I should say that this is the time that swedes should play some extraordianry role to stand against their government so that to save the friendly increasing interaction between the people of different parts of the world.
Please do understand what we going to increase in the world.
Integrity among people? or Differences among the people?
BTW I have completed my education from sweden and I'll remain thankful to sweden for this forever. I will like to do something for sweden if I may get chance in future.
I have one practically sound suggestion to separate the serious applicants (true seekers of knowledge) from the bogus applicants who use this as gateway to enter in the europe and then dont leave. Application fee can be placed between 500 to 2000 krones. Ofcourse this is also more for those who are from poor countries but anyway this atleast, swedes are obliged to have necessarily. How the system can work better, I will elaborate it with one example. Say one guy got admission in 1 year master programme. After admission, the whole fee (worth for one year) can be collected before the students enter sweden and then they should start studying.If the student is finished with one year study successfully, he should be returned his tutition fee. So the tution fee should work like a security for the students. If one really completes the education, he is rewarded his fee back in the end otherwise he should not only be sent back forcefully but his fee should also be transferred to the government account permanently. If the programme is two years, fee of one year should be collected and if the student completes one year successfully, he should not need to pay for second year and continue his studies. On the completion of two year study, it should work the same way as I said for one year's study above. This is what is really a true solution for the problems which the swedish government is facing due to bogus applicants. This system is easily manageable by the colleges and universitets authorities by themselves. Ofcourse the policy makers always have far better solutions then what I have suggested but if they are fair and the government is also fair to accept these. May God eliminate the ever increasing wrong people Himself from the world forever. Perhaps we can somehow replace the all existing wrong politicians of the world. How if we stop the use of cigrates to save revenue which only gives problem and we pay a lot for dangers only burning tobacco. Perhaps we can succeed to make this world better for ourselves and the next generations.
Swedes are lucky indeed.
Educating the individual, in a democratic environment, is our contribution to a richer, freer and more democratic world.
So 85% of applicants from outside Europe did meet the minimum standard required to get a place in a Swedish university. The processing of these applications takes time and costs money. making would be students pay an application fee will reduce the number of bogus applicants and offset some of the costs. Maybe those who are offered a place could have the application fee repayed when they start their studies?
Tuition is free. Cost of living and other associated costs aren't. Swedish students are still graduating with lots of student loan debt.
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The fees being instituted at Swedish universities for foreign students are still MUCH cheaper than fees for foreign students who wish to study in, say, Quebec, Canada; as far as I know, it's the cheapest place to receive a high quality degree in North America. Tuition at McGill University or Universite de Montreal will run foreign students anywhere between $15,000-$25,000 a year, and they're two of the best universities in Canada.
Insituting application fees is a no-brainer. I know people who applied to four different Swedish universities as a back-up plan, with no SERIOUS intention of moving to Sweden; a just-in-case/would-be-so-awesome-to-get-free-a-education plan :P. I mean, people actually spend serious amounts of time looking through these applications and administering the entire process. Insituting application fees is a way to boost and improve the system, and hopefully deter those half-hearted applicants from applying.
It does suck for those who can't afford the $10,000/year and who were completely depending on Sweden or Scandinavia for their higher education. In reality, Sweden needs to compete and make money too; they can't take care of everyone.
It is a wonderful statement to make that everyone has an equal right to education.. not just those who can afford it
It is also understandable that those who do not contribute to a system shouldn't benefit.. but maybe instead, they can set up more scholarships for international students.. that way, even those who can't afford it, can apply... this ensures that only serious students will be financed... and those who are not, will not take anything away from the economy.. but would have to pay a small fee
I just hope that the message of education for all won't disappear!