February 14, 2012
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Three Swedish teenage girls have been charged for kidnapping and stripping another 17-year-old girl who had once dated the ex-boyfriend of one of the kidnappers.
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These stories are more and more common now
To cap it all the 17 year old who was kidnapped was/is pregnant.
Unbelievable.
I'd be surprised if they weren't. Ethnic girls tend to be more passive, at least for the first generation immigrants.
We've had a few of cases of young girl on girl violence over here in Canada also in the last few years. In the worse case a girl gang accidently beat another young girl to death for "boyfriend stealing".
I don't know what this is about. Some people blame the feminist movement, but no doubt the feminists would find some excuse to blame males, but the reality is that young girls are under a lot of pressures these days and some are reacting with violence.
I realy dont know what the point is in trying to guess the ethinic background or race or religion of the people involved in crimes.
What can that help. Anyone involved in a crime must be punished according to the laws of the land.
I am raised in a very multi cultural enviorment with family friends from jews to muslims from russians to pakistanis, gays and agnostic and it was great.
Not too sure what started all the "Swedish Utopia" and anti-immigrant rant. Anybody is capable of anything at anytime. Most just have the will to overcome it. That's true regardless of what flavor of person you are.
Best comment so far is from ironman294. Got right to the point.
So you think don't think it's possible to be racist against one particular race? That's interesting because we don't hear about the Nazi movement to exterminate the Chinese. Or the Serbian war crimes against Africans. So, apparently the acts that did take place where not racist since it wasn't an all out, us vs. them action. Just using your logic of course.
Your comment about an Arab is 27 times more likely to commit rape than a native-born Swede is cool. I mean, I love statistics. So tell me, what is the stats on how much more likely a man is to commit rape than a woman? I'm guessing it's a lot. So, I think the problem might be that Sweden has too many men. Again, just using your logic.
Not saying there's not a problem with immigration policies etc., just leaving the possibility open that we should just be concerned that 3 girls of that age thought this behavior was what was necessary, then acted on it.
They are just scared of anything new or different and that Sweden is changing and becoming more multicultural: "Man vet vad man har men inte vad man får" says it all.
I hear everyday in the fika rum the same comments as above "det var säkert ingen Svensson som görde så"
Sweden in like France, a great country ruined by the people.
Hence the reason I have decided to leave!!
Incase anyone wonders I am not from eastern europe or any of the other lower class (as Swedes see it) countries I am from England and have never been prouder of MY country.
"I realy dont know what the point is in trying to guess the ethinic background or race or religion of the people involved in crimes.
What can that help."
It can help by raising awareness of the problems that exist in certain ethnic communities so that resources can be placed into those communities.
It might also be helpful in formulating an immigration policy that is beneficial to the native people so we don't have people thinking that there's no difference between allowing in 10,000 people from Somalia versus 10,000 people from the Philippines.
can someone tell me where was that studied ? who concluded and what was the methadology behind the research ?
how many times a 17 year old teenager swedish blonde is likely to abuse another girl for dating his boyfriend as compared to a 17 year old somalian girl covered from head to toe?
next time you post this kinda sh!t attach some hard rock so i can bang my head on that.
Why don't you take a look at how many Chinese were in Germany during WWII and then take a look at how many Jews were there? I'm willing to bet that if you replaced the Chinese with Jews during that time, the same thing would have happened because Hitler was a racist. Also, how many Africans do you think were in Serbia during that war? I'm guessing not too many. But judging by how black football players are treated when playing in Serbia, I'm also willing to bet that if you replaced Croats and Bosnians with Africans, the result would have been them same because Milosevic was a racist. So nice try, smart guy. But your attempt to turn that logic against me crashed and burned.
Also, if you love statistics so much, maybe you should pay attention to them instead of ignoring them. So you acknowledge that there is a problem with immigration. What exactly is that problem? I'm interested in your take on that. And please also explain how a violent crime rate can increase by 900% since the introduction of Middle Eastern immigrants/asylum seekers, if they are not the cause of it? Interested to hear your explanations.
Again, people who speak out against this are not 'racist.' Just people looking at the facts and saying, hey, this group of people is obviously presenting a problem to the country.
and one more thing, they will involve religion and cast in such an issue with no time. are they just pretending to be a non racists?
surprising...
I'm an Englishman who is currently living in Sweden and what I see around me is exactly what I see in England and in my years living in South Africa, people from different ethnic backgrounds have different ways of living and when you mix them all up you get problems.
Sweden is a first world county, if all the immagrants coming in to Sweden from around the world were living in first world countries then for 1: they woundn't be moving in the first place and 2: nobody in Sweden would have a problem with them.
They have left their countries because they are having to deal with issues of rape, poverty, violence ect.
I think that it is horrible that human being is not allowed to favor a race if he wants to, I believe it is everybodys right to say exactly whats on their mind, acting on those thoughts is another subject all together and one shold always follow the law.
If a Swede loves his Swdish neihbough more than his immagrant neihbough then he is labeld a racist when in fact all he\she is doing is loving Sweden and the county of their birth heratige.
Immagrats (including myself) must not be given the respect from Swedes but must earn it!, or go home.
There is a difference between patriotism and nationalism!!
At least in the UK everyone is treated equally even if there are groups of people who have problems with those of a different race. 9 times out of 10 you will find that those people are the lower class lesser educated who resent immigrants for taking what they see as their jobs etc.
Here in Sweden it does not matter if you are the best man for the job, if you are not Swedish you don't even get your foot in the door. This is not the same as the UK!!!!
It's so disheartening to read some of the comments, namely "I would be very surprised if the women behind this crime were actually blonde-haired Swedes." It crushes my view of Sweden as the most civilized nation on the planet, and shatters any naiveté I was harboring-- that indeed there are small-minded people anywhere and everywhere... it's so disappointing, no matter the complexities of the immigration issues in Europe.
What a wake up call for me: I can't believe there are Swedes who sound like they're from conservative middle America! My goodness, would they have voted for Sarah Palin? Jesus! (pun intended)
Look to the Uk for what? Poor education, terrible social mobility and generations in poverty in gigantic housing estates? Highest teenage pregnancy rate in Europe?
Generations in poverty I will agree with and it breaks my heart that we have generations of people who don't want to work and improve their situations and young girls who see there only possibility of a decent future is by getting pregnant.
No one is claiming the UK as a eutopia but I think the issue being discussed here is race relations and social attitudes towards immigration and immigrants.
On the education subject however I must say that the education here at least in high school is very very poor. It seems the focus is more on teaching children what to think rather than educating them!! An education system where children are merely given books and told to complete a certain section by the end of the week, with no teacher led instruction, is a very poor system indeed.
"but I think the issue being discussed here is race relations and social attitudes towards immigration and immigrants"
NO the subject of this story is 3 girls who kidnapped and assaulted another girl. No mention of race in the story. Highly unlikely that girls involved where from an immigrant background YET along come the racists who turn every story in TL into a matter of immigration.
YOU do not know the ethnicity or origin of the girls and your assertion that they must be immigrants stems from your hate of everything that is immigrant.
No wait a minute you do not hate all immigrants in Sweden, you are one and you most probably know others from countries that you like. So what you are saying is, that all the crime in Malmo and elsewhere in Sweden is carried out by immigrants from CERTAIN countries and cultures, with CERTAIN Religious beliefs.
That is when it becomes racist and comes under the Hets mot folkgrupp law. The false and totally unsupported accusations made by you and others of your ilk is in breach of the law. You could end up spending 2 years in prison for this.
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What is your reaction to this comment by peropaco?
"I can clearly see the perpetrators. Buck teeth, slightly overweight trailer park white trash "
Is that in violation of Hets mot folkgrupp law?
For the education side of things.... if you learn in sweden can you go anywhere in the world? no. Students use sweden because its free. I think Uk citzens should be extremly proud of what they have achieved.
The social state... well sweden cant talk.
If there is a trailer park inhabited by slightly overweight girls who have buck teeth, and they get harassed because of perpatrators comments, then that may be considered 'Hets mot folkgrupp'
If however those same girls owned the trailer park and put up a sign says 'Only slightly overweight girls who have buck teeth allowed' then they would be in breach of the law. - A guy was sent to prison for putting up a sign saying 'no gypsies' outside his camping site.
There seems to be a belief that anybody can make any statement they like on the internet, true or false without any comeback. Not true. It is covered by the law. And permitting unsubstantiated postings that could be a breach of the law could lay TL open to prosecution. Notice how individual comments and whole threads suddenly disappear on TL. There are a number of posters who posts are definitely in breach of the Hets mot folkgrupp law
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Hiding behind pseudonym thinking that you can use this or any other forum to spread untruths does not work. Big Brother is watching you, so be careful what you write
It doesn't matter if they are whites, blacks or pinks. Give them ten years in the house to think about they have done. But those two years that they probably will get will not discourage other hysterical punks to commit such abhorrences.
What if I had said that I would be very surprised if the perpetrators were slightly overweight buck-toothed trailer park white trash?
Or what if I said I doubt the perpetrators were Pakistanis?
By stating that a certain group of people were probably -not- responsible for the crime does that violate Hets mot folkgrupp law?
Also as Sweden moves from being a leader to being just another wanna-be American Satellite state you'll see more & more of this senseless sh*t, the Protestant work ethic that made Europe, Scandinavia, and America so strong is quickly dissapearing & is being replaced with nothing but obedient, consumers.