February 13, 2012
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Sweden’s government is set to replace the board of directors of the Apoteket AB pharmacy monopoly because the current board won’t accept the government’s rules for deregulation.
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Who is going to police the import of expired drugs, re-labelled and repackaged in Eastern Europe?
Sure it works well, yes. Can it work better, certainly! Does it work for people that do not have an Apoteket anywhere in their area? Does it work for people who need medicine at night (only 1 24hr in Stockholm and one other that closes at 22:00).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8214713.stm
The people in the UK has to bid higher then. The United Kingdom is far from the poorest country in the EU, they can afford to pay as much as other europeans for their drugs.
Don't expect companies to sell at loss to satisfy cheap customers.
The Govt is making the absolute minimum changes possible to abide by EU directives.
It will retain as much control as it can possibly get away with, by applying even more restrictions.
Things will change very little.
More shades of the iron fist of ex Soviet bloc countries.
You are completely right, couldn't have said it better myself.
@ Renfeh Hguh
Sounds like a republican? He is in favor of a government run system ! And he isn't trrying scare anyone either..
@ jack sprat
I only need to say one thing. You're insane.
You missed my point, usgepo is trying to scare people into maintaining the status quo. This is the same tactic currently used by the Republicans and others in the anti-Obama healthcare camp.
The Swedish government will maintain a tight control on the perscription drugs. For f..ks sake, Swedes and Sweden does not change over night and Swedes will be scared if the government cannot reasure them that all safety measures have been taken. My ex's mother was horrified when she heard that we bought cold and flu medicines back from Australia. My ex had to tell her all of the ingrediants listed on the packet before her mother calmed down and understood they contained nothing evil.
Anyone who thinks we will end up with a system that will result in us receiving expired or counterfit drugs clearly does not know Swedes and Sweden.
Great comment!! Swedes are totally paranoid about what they eat to begin with, getting old and expired meds simply won't happen. Being able to pick up my meds from ICA would be just great, instead of standing in line at Apoteket getting infected by colds, flu's and other diseases looking for my government handout. Sweden do have laws and regulations for ICA, Hemköp etc to follow. That is good enough for me!
NOTHING will change when you need a perscription to be filled except that we will end up with more places to buy them, some with more convinient hours and to make the smaller pharmasies more financially viable, a greater variety of non-pharmasy goods will also be available for sale. I would not be surprised if Australian pharmasies make their profit on the "other items" and the persription drugs just ensure a steady supply of customers.
Don't be so scared children.
Is it clear now?
Since you are from the US perhaps you are expecting privatisation to give Sweden the same system you have back home with poor quality/out of date etc... medicines (I have no idea if that is the case).
If this is the case then listen closely......... SWEDEN IS NOT THE USA and WILL NEVER BE!
Perhaps you should head back to your trailer and turn on Jerry Springer.
@ Renfeh Hguh
"SWEDEN IS NOT THE USA" - and thank the lord, god, allah (yeah yeah, same "sagogubbe" I know, but I need names) and the devil for that.
"and WILL NEVER BE!" - thank the same non-existing things again!
But we're getting closer non the less, and if the right wins the next election I'll flee from this country. Make me dictator for 15 years and I'll create paradise (what it is according to me anyway; meaning the worst place imaginable for e.g. people like mkvgtired.. oh the idea makes me feel like homer simpsons fantasizing about something really unhealthy and eatable).
Anyway back to reality; can you please rewrite this: "gain support against Obama's health care plan, NOT the policy which I 100000% agree that they would break up the monopoly."
It confuses me quite a lot, thanks in advance.
It´s not Microsoft we are talking about, once again no scary republican tactics nor Swedish mentality, nor political debating, that is secondary, the issue here is that politicians, as Ill informed as you made a rash decision without looking at the big picture, secondary, tertiary costs, involved. My commentary is purely about the concerned of what this effects will have on you, our families and me as a consumer in the long run. Honestly do you think ICA or Boots will place this governance and system at their stores to care for you or I?
Just typed a long answer and lost it because I had a sentence with uppercase characters.
usgepo.... wake up this is Sweden... Boots will have to play by the rules set by Sweden and the rules will keep the Swedish voters feeling safe and confident in the way the place is Governed. To think anything thing else is stupidity
There is now proposal to completely de-regulate drug sales in Sweden, just the prescription free over- the-counter items. ICA is already selling items that are de-regulated in competition with Apotek.
You will never see prescription drugs being sold in ICA over the counter. Just like you don't see them sold in Boots. You may see Apotek's within ICA stores with the same regulations. You will not find a flood of counterfeit medicines - only those approved by FASS.
I find prescription charges in Sweden rather low and the charging structure very fair. For those fellow immigrants that are unaware of the system, the way prescription medicines are charged is as follows. You start paying the full manufacturers list price for medicines prescribed by your doctor. When you have paid 90Kr in a 12 month period, you pay 50% of the price, When you have paid 1800kr in less than a year, the cost of filling out a prescription is free for the rest of the period. So the maximum that anybody can pay is 1800Kr ($265) a year. I also find that the Apotek staff always offer a generic version of brand name medication that is on the prescription, if it is available. That saves money for the patient as well as the state.Ever seen that happen in Boots?
Oh by the way Renfeh Hguh you brought cough medicine in from Australia. Waste of money. I once asked a doctor in the UK to recommend on of the myriad of products available. His reply "Buy one from the company you've got shares in. taking any over the counter cough preparation only increases the profits of the company and does nothing for the users"
I never called any one a Republican, I just said that your post is using the same scare tactics that the Republicans are currently using.
You should meet my 7 year old niece as the two of you like saying Waga Waga. Given the childish insult you posting, I will have to assume that the reference to "your family" means your parents and older brothers and sisters.
For the record, unless you were born and grew up in LA or NYC then you come from a smaller city than my Australian hometown. Statistically speaking any Australian has a far greater chance of coming from a city with 1m+ population than an American has. Less than 10% of the US population live in 1m+ cities where as over 65% of Australians live in 1m+ cities. So you are statistically much more likely to live in close minded little towns.
@ Rick Methven
I agree that the OTC cold and flu medicine do not cure the illness or shorten the illness period, but they do lessens the impact of the symptoms helping breath easier and sleep at night, which is what I want from them. I know from experience that they do this and I will continue to use them.
Have you thought that maybe the doctor might want you to come to him and earn him money rather than going for OTC at Boots? :-)
For that matter, neither Eastern Europe had problems as usgepo mentioned.
Still, there are always people who are not flexibile enough and afraid of changes... sometimes with reason, and sometimes not.
Many changes need to be made to the American insurance system. Creating a single payer system is not the answer. When I was in Europe most people there are under the impression that the majority of Americans do not have healthcare. If that is the case why does it have the highest cancer survival rate in the world? Last time I checked it is not only rich people that get cancer. I would say our system of private pharmacies works pretty well. I am assuming you have never been here. Within a 15 minute walk of my work I can choose from 15+ pharmacies. My home about 8. I have never received poor quality medicines, and you came from a country with private pharmacies so I dont know why you make that assertion.
"SWEDEN IS NOT THE USA and WILL NEVER BE!"
Believe it or not most Americans including myself could care less about what Sweden does to its pharmacy monopoly. If the Swedish (not American) public would prefer a monopoly then the monopoly should continue. You are the one who introduced hostility to this board by bringing up Republicans in the second post. I thought this was supposed to be a discussion on the Swedish pharmacy monopoly. I agree with you that privatization will not change much, except increasing availability.
"Perhaps you should head back to your trailer and turn on Jerry Springer."
As you stated in another post less than 10% of Americans are from 1MM+ cities. Why does it matter if someone is from a small town or a large city? This has no bearing on their intelligence. If it matters I am from a small town in the midwest near the Illinois/Wisconsin border. It is called Chicago, just your run of the mill, midwest, redneck haven.
The comment about the US system was purely done because I have no idea where usgepo was getting his fanciful ideas about post privatisation. I suspected that they were from thin air but gave them a chance to share his experience in case the US was that bad (which I was guessing not)
I ONLY mentioned the Rupblicans because they are right now using the same scare tactics that usgepo is trying to use. I'm sure there are plenty of cases where the Swedish Vänsterpartiet (Left ex. commies) are using the same tactict to gain support for their position
Finally the reference to the city population size is in reference to usgepo idiotic comment "another close minded little wombat hole of a town, where the man are man, the woman are man too, the sheep run scared, and incest is the local pastime." I was just highlighting that it is statistically more likely that they are from a small town and everything it usgepo implies.