February 14, 2012
Published: 28 Sep 09 16:22 CET | Double click on a word to get a translation
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/22344/20090928/
The 40-year-old ''mastermind behind a Swedish teen sex ring has been sentenced to four years in jail on charges of aggravated pimping offences.
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Secondly, why is he only getting four years?
What do you have to do to get a long jail term in Sweden, nuke stockholm?
This guy should have the key thrown away. Instead he is given a slap on the wrist.
Children as young as 14 are involved.
Does no one in the Swedish justice system realise that this pervert, should never see the light of day again?
Name and shame the ********!
Sweden is weird in America even if a girl says she is 18 but is less than 18 ou go to jail.
Lovely the guys who were caught having sex with the young girls get away with it.
Well when the age of consent is 15! 15! in Sweden 14 doesnt seem so young.
Quite sad, actually most countries around the world are 14 or 15 yrs old.
The US is generally 18. Some states have 17 or 16 but in general it is 18
Actually, the age of consent is 16 or 17 in most US states, not 18.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America
oh my god....he got only 4 years jail!!!! this is a real joke. he should to be jail in life time.After 4 yaers he will start his dirty business again....
I agree with OPs that the name and picture should be published. Canada does... in fact, the US even posts pictures, crimes, etc. of pedophiles so people know who's livin' in their neighbourhood - heck... iTunes even has a US App that has these dirt bags listed.
Are you kidding? "We need to embrace the rich tapestry of cultural values that he lives by." Seriously???? if condoning and accepting selling girls for sex is the world I live in today then something is wrong. I'm all for accepting people for what they do, when they live by law, its not ok to break the law and then say that we have to accept his cultural values. No culture anywhere would accept this.
Obviously that is working out very good for you.
LOL! Best comment so far. And You have already caught a little fish in the hook of the irony.
The Poles are discussing a law which will allow the castration of pedophiles. Healthy thinking.
What would be an appropriate punishment for this person? In your opinion.
The crime situation in Sweden, excluding homicide, isn't much better than in the USA
Victimisation in the year preceding the survey: percentage victimised once or more (prevalence rates):
Car theft: USA 0.5 - Sweden 1.3
Theft from Car: USA 6.4 - Sweden 5.3
Car vandalism: USA 7.2 - Sweden 4.6
Motor cycle theft: USA 0.3 - Sweden 0.4
Bicycle theft: USA 2.1 - Sweden 7.2
Burglary: USA 1.8 - Sweden 1.7
Attempted burglary: USA 2.7 - Sweden 0.7
Robbery: USA 0.6 - Sweden 0.9
Personal theft: USA 4.9 - Sweden 5.8
Sexual incidents: USA 1.5 - Sweden 2.6
Assaults and thefts: USA 3.4 - Sweden 3.8
http://www.unicri.it/wwd/analysis/icvs/pdf_files/key2000i/pdf/17-icvs-app4.pdf
Forget it. It's not like Nevon is going to let facts and statistics get in the way of his/her blind, PC rants. This idiot won't even condemn the acts that the child pimp committed. He/she just uses this forum to defend all types of criminals, put down the U.S. (when it has nothing at all to do with the topic) and present no sort of facts or statistics of his/her own to defend his/her position. You and Pauli already gave him/her much more than he/she could handle so he/she resorts to the standard PC tricks of calling any statistic or fact, "baseless." I would like to see this defender of Islam and 3rd world immigrants spend 2 days in any Middle Eastern country (provided he/she is not Middle Eastern) and live to tell about it. Chances are we'd see him/her coming home in a bodybag with the head unattached.
You'd think with the penal system the USA has in comparison with Sweden, it would be much MUCH lower, no? Also when you factor in homicide rates, one of the most vehement indicators of crime, the USA leads by a huge margin. And let's also consider that the rate of crimes reported in Sweden is higher than USA (Yes, go to wikipedia and check).
Your statistics are once again, misrepresented! (QUICK, PAULI! IT'S THE PC CONSPIRACY!). To tote the US justice system as an example is not justified.
@DreEstwd (or rather, Pauli with his newest ID after getting banned)
I'm not a lawyer or a judge, so I'm not really sure what kind of punishment this person deserves. If I were to not be aware that I'm not a legal expert, I would join everyone else and say let's throw the bastard in for at least 10 years.
For the rest of your usual nonsense mumbling about PC and such; you made me chuckle... again! Thank you, my diminutive little racist.
If USA's punishment system is much better than why do they have similar crime rate ? Shouldn't Sweden have much higher crime rate after all everyone knows if you commit a crime in Sweden punishment will be nothing compared to what you will get in USA. Apparently many people here still believe that harsh punishments are the only major deterrent for criminals.
If most Americans here really believe that most things in USA are better than why even stay in Sweden. In America, you might never even have to learn what or where Sweden is.
It may be a fact that crimes in Sweden are more likely to be reported to the police (I haven't checked if it's true) but that does not negate the figures that I provided because the statistics are from a UN crime survey of individuals and not from reported crime stats obtained from justice departments.
The same criteria is used in all countries that participated in the survey so we don't have the distortion that would normally arise as a result of different classifications of crimes or different rates of crime reporting.
You suggest that crime in the US should be much lower than in Sweden if the penal system were actually working but if you account for all of the different factors that can cause crime the crime rate should actually be much higher in the US.
The fact that it's slightly lower than Sweden in the most common crimes like assault, theft and sex crimes shows that the Swedish penal system isn't working.
thanks for pointing out to me that DreEstwd was previously banned....they should do it again...this guy is a disease
Did you read the whole article, he was not convicted for gang rape, he was convicted for pimping and soliciting. If there was sufficient evidence that he forced girls into prostitution then punishment should have been tougher but if he just arranged meetings then it should not even be a crime (or a very minor crime).
@waspy
The difference isn't so big that you could claim that one system is better than other. As far as statistics go, USA has four times higher homicide rate (everyone would agree that it is one of the most serious crimes) than Sweden (Tenth United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems, covering the period 2005 - 2006). USA has the highest percentage of its population (10 times higher than Sweden) locked up in jail.
Swedish system has many flaws and it needs improvement (tougher punishments for repeat offenders, tougher punishments for premeditated serious crimes) but turning it into something similar to US justice system isn't improvement (or at least not significant improvement).
I guess the best way to judge which system is working and which system isn't is to look at the trends in crime rates.
Crime in the US has been declining over the last couple of decades but crime in Sweden has been rising during that same time period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
Crime rate in Sweden from 1950 - 2006 from Bra.se (excel file)
http://tinyurl.com/ya3rwsr
Both countries are far from perfect and those of you who continue to bash the other country just like to argue. Because there is no right answer to be found in this comment section.
First of all, I am not, Pauli. I definitely agree with the way that he has taken Nevon to school but we are not the same person. Second, I have never been banned from this site. Third, he was saying that Pauli had been banned. Not me. Clear?
Trinaican, since you've already defended rapists in another article here on The Local , I assume that you are back to do it again. You've got to be one sick individual to come on here and defend rape and rapists like your new buddy, Nevon. Not once have I seen either of you condemn this act. The guy was arranging the rape of teenage girs (some as young as 14) and all you idiots want to do is talk about the U.S. or talk about me. Ridiculous. Hopefully, neither of you have positions of power or never get them either. Go lose yourselves.