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Sweden's Fredrik Reinfeldt on Monday pushed the Czech Republic and Britain not to further delay passage of the European Union's Lisbon reform treaty.
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I just don't know what he really stands for.
To tell the truth I'm very sceptical about this whole EU 'thing' and am wondering where it will all end.
I know from my experience of having lived in South Africa for many years, that tribalism and integration do not sit well together.
In Ireland it came from Sarkozy and Merkel, and in all honesty it did not help the cause, I am sure that it actually had a negative effect in the minds of many.
This pressure is not helpful and as was the case in Ireland, it was accompanied by the never vebalised but easily felt threat of being ostracised from the European community. Threats, pressure and democracy do not exactly go hand in hand in modern Europe, or at least they should not.
I think pressurising these nationally proud countries is not the way to proceed, especially in the case of the British people being allowed a referendum on the matter.
Is this democracy? Pushing a nation to vote (by the way, under the scare of further disastrous economic crises) until "it votes right"?
Or even by-passing people's vote by ratifying the Treaty through Parliaments? Is this democracy?
Are the media discussing what the content of the treaty is?
Do people know that the Treaty authorizes and supports death penalty for "riots or insurrection"?
Does democratic Sweden know this?
There is a name for this: tyranny.
The choice of Blair is not surprising: he'd be perfect to seal end of democratic states and enter a new era of euro-tyranny. Although only a few seem to remark.
We'll all be crying, and luckily soon.
The sooner the bitter, the sooner the cure.
Very true. The recent vote in Ireland obviously tried to capitalize on the current recession...and it worked!
It seems like the original EC nations (namely France and Germany) seem to think the EU is a special vehicle just for them to pressure their neighbors into doing what they want. How is it that the Lisbon treaty, which is supposed to unify and support member nations, can only be passed through threats of economic punishment. The last hope is the UK or the Czech Republic. European is not an identity. The Spanish are different than the Polish. The Brits are different than the Greeks. The French are different than the Germans. When is the EU going to stop pretending this is not the case. Those who are skeptical of a one size fits all government for so many diverse cultures should not be forced into submission through the threats of economic sanctions.
Why then should we trust in these clowns when they tell us that this constitution, treaty or whatever name you give it, is good for us?
They lied about a referendum, lied about tax and have bankrupt the country.
It's plainly obvious that the Irish were bullied and caved in due to their recession which is basically a sell-out. Now the unelected and very rich spongers in Brussels are desparately trying to nail everyone down before the Brits get a chance to have their say. They know what the outcome will be and they're scared.
The French said NO, the Dutch said NO, the Irish said NO so the Brits along with with the help of the Czechs are democracy's last hope of survival in modern day Europe.
Sorry Mr Reinfeldt but if you believed Britain was already 'in' then why so desparate to speak to Mr Cameron?
Truth is, I think Mr Cameron will call a referendum regardless of it being ratified. If he shows his hand now, the remaining countries will simply sign it knowing the Brits will bring it down later. So fair play to David he will stand up for the people and so I believe will Mr Klaus - two people that are in politics to serve their people and not to leach for eternity (Mr Brown & all unelected Euro rubbish)
Worth a mention - If you believe all the rubbish spouted about being sidelined if you vote no - take a look at Norway and Switzerland, they're doing very well indeed!
I am from the Czech Rep. All on-line newspapers here do surveys among their readers. You can choose everywhere "are you for or against Lis. T." ... as I could see - majority of Czechs is against - I am one of them.
I reckon that we have discussion about it, we talk about it whenever we can (coffee shops, barbers´ ... everywhere) - because we have time and we still believe that at least a bit of democracy for us from EU to decide :)
How can I be "for" when EU´s pressure is in the way of threat (we won´t give a seat of commisar to Czechs when they are against ... and similary).
I wish bright minds to our justiciary judges when deciding if LT is good or not.
We do NOT HAVE TO (=
The last thing anyone in Europe needs is the Lisbon treaty. It pretty much gives away national powers on major issues to unelected bureaucrats in Brussels. It is the end of true democracy and the potential starting place for a dictatorship. Has Europe really learned nothing in the last hundred years.
As for David Cameron being any different, don't hold your breath. If the Czechs vote in favour it is improbable that Cameron would want to stand against the rest of Europe alone.
Tony Blair, when should he becomes president, will do what Tony Blair always does. That is, whatever's right for Tony Blair.
Sorry to burst your balloon euro wannabes, but if this all goes ahead I promise you it does not end well.
Like Churchill said, if you fail to learn the lessons of history you are doomed to repeat it's mistakes.