February 10, 2010
Published: 9 Oct 09 12:45 CET
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The Swedish Peace and Arbitration Society (Svenska Freds) has classified as "shameful" the decision by the Nobel Committee in Oslo to award the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 to Barack Obama.
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Unlike the peaceful efforts made by Yassar Arafat when he won.
More troops to Afghanistan, more troops to Iraq, Guantanamo still open, rendition and torture still in place.
Bailing out the chosen financial elite with hundreds of billions of taxpayer's money while 31 million Americans are on food stamps.
Change you can believe in. Sure, right.
Am I dreaming?
Remember one thing, in a few days/months/years all your gripes will largely be forgotten, all that will be remembered is:
Prez Obama got a NPP :))
Thats how it works, you know it and so do I.
Stew in it :P
The Nobel Committee drank too much the day of the nominations.
the american ppl are suffering coz of jobs.they are spending more money on military.where is Peace.in afghanistan they wannn send more troops and still worse war in iraq.everyday ppl are dieing AND NOW THEY ARE TALKING ABT NOBEL PRIZE for obama.what they did till now.what change they bring till now.just creates problem in all over the world where is OIL.
NO BLOOD FOR OIL.
I am proud on Swedish government.swedish government is netural.
God Bless SWEDEN
And he is continuing to try and commit to the road of unification and peace and that is also something that counts. He may not have actually done something but having the intention to do something and trying to do something is also worth something.
Besides, if he does not get it then who should? The war-criminal Benjamin Netanyahu who bombs UN buildings?
Now, even more so. A joke....
Though I think Sarkozy deserved it moreso than Obama
Nobel Peace Prize has lost its credibility..once and for all
They should have given him the Literature Nobel Prize instead because of his sentence "Yes we can".
So lets see for how long Obama will respect this award by his future plannings and decisions.
Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize for killing thousands of innocents civilians... bravo
Someone has any figures for civilian causalities in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan, during last year !!
Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize for killing thousands of innocents civilians... bravo
this is really true
I'm an American
He doesn't deserve it at all, all talk no action
Still wars rage on, gitmo is not closed for business, still no accountability on Tourture with Bush and his Pals, he extended the Patriot Act, and he can't even get Health care passed
Sounds like JFK but doesn't act like JFK
So he deserve's the Nobel peace prize "what a joke"
This is why I live in Sweden now and won't be returning to the US anytime soon.
"Does this mean they'll be closing the 'Bridge' again !!!"
You beat me to it.
KamiZ
"it just goes on to show how the USA can dominate anythin it wants. and get away with it too"
This is getting very tired and old. The US has nobody in the Nobel institutions. I dont think he has done anything to deserve it either, but dont blame him, blame the Nobel Laureates who chose him.
I fail to see how doubling then tripling the national debt is supposed to bring peace to the world. If he is trying to cause a second civil war in the US or cause the US Government to default on their Treasury Securities (causing massive global unrest) then I would say he is doing a great job.
Barack Obama is the best Us president since.......in a long time.
I agree that it remains to be seen what he will accomplice, but his intentions are very good.
The FOX News (aka Faux Propaganda Machine) is going ballistic.
American ppl also want peace in the world.
spend alot of money on wars and getting nothing just americans are suffering.
how was america before and now.
May God only help us now.
Spending a lot of money on wars is Americas own interest.
Who says to be greedy and try to occupy resources of other nations.
It is predicted by a Russian novlest,in the year 2012 there will 50 countries instead of 50 states.
Now you can see the prices of daily use things went upto to sky.
dont worry my friend,the bad has yet to come.Just wait and see.
The only thing he has accomplished is to polarize the USA.
TO BARACK OBAMA CONGRATULATIONS...YOU DESERVE IT!
he closed guantanamo.
^^ You are too funny.
Up front, I'll say I'm a righty, but even the leftys in the US are left agasp on how exactly he has "won it" for doing nothing but making broad brushed, overly ambitious promises.
For years (Since Carter's nomination) I've thought the Nobel prize has been losing its luster, and this is it's final nail. This is about as credible as Time Magazines "Person of the year" award. This award presented to this man to me shows what I have always known: Scandinavia's ignorant fawning and gushing love affair with Barak Obama knows no bounds.
Wanna hear something even more shocking?
That the the Nobel Peace Prize is funded by the INVENTOR OF DYNAMITE's Estate!!!
Howz that for Swedish hypocrisy!
.hoom.
hey nobel committee, plz hand over the novel economics price to me. I am not able to mange my economy for last 2 yrs . I promise I will manage it once I receive 10 million SEK from you
Have you any knowledge of HADOPI or HADOPI 2? at least try to get wikipedia to educate you.
Congrats Barack Obama!
Why do i get the feeling a lof of Muslims are offended?
(not that i have anything against Muslims being offended)
I am very sure had it been the US in place of india, countries like pakistan would have never existed now.
But Republicans like I have considered the Nobel Prizes a Joke ever since Yassar Arafat was given one and then when Jimmy Carter received one it continued the absurdity until now! Hahaha geting a peace prize for what? What did President Obama do so far?
Let's see he sold out Czech Republic and Poland to the Russians. And sold out Honduras to Chavez. Has bombed and killed more people in Pakistan than President Bush ever did.
he is escalating the war in Afghanistan!!!! He is not a man of peace!
All these various Nobel prizes given out for various fields and our world continues to further sink into a cesspool. What happened to all that wonderful influence of all the geniuses had on things ???
Ignorance is Strength
War is Peace
F*** me, somebody wake me up. Please.
Obama has not accomplished anything because he lacks for self-esteem. The Nobel Prize will make him feel better about himself, and he will use his new found self to bring peace to the world.
Self esteem first.
Accomplishments later.
What a joke!
All I can say otherwise is that this defys explanation.
I promise to give "hope" and I sure can use the cash.
OK?
Is this a shame? Of course it is!
I love the commitee in the sense that they are trying to encourage the hope and change that can happen if all the nay sayers would shut the hell up!!!
It was the NORWEGIANS
ahahahhahha...dude ur the MAN/WOMAN.this is the best joke on the whole page :D
Can i make any late naminations ???
Manmohan singh should also get one for the remarkable tolerance he has shown towards pakistan which periodically conducts terrorist attacks on indian soil." [/i]
Typical hindu extremist/childish/ridiculous views..... crawl back to your cave and get a life.
* After U.S., india is 2nd biggest terrorist state.
* There is freedom struggle in 200 districts of India "It is biggest freedom struggle anywhere in world"
* because of this vast land that india has occupied, india is facing internal threats. Instead of giving people their rights, india has a policy of blaming pakistan and china... whats new.. huh
* there are thousands of evidences that india is promoting terrorism in pakistan through its consulates in afghanistan... shame on india
[i]
"17:14 October 9, 2009 by crocadoodledoo
I am very sure had it been the US in place of india, countries like pakistan would have never existed now." [/i]
* india's nuclear test were unsuccessful. Otherwise hindus are close to nazis... you can expect anything from them.. on the other end india knows that both pak and china are nuclear powers..
p.s. sorry guyz, i am off topic because of this crocadoodledoo
If they really wanted to give him peace prize, they should have waited at least one or two years, so we could see how he made the world a better place.
I don't think he has realized he has got to do some real work instead of jet setting with Air Force One and being a salesman / con-man.
By the way who else is sick of hearing all the murdering, bombing terrorist Arabs cry like babies and blame someelse whenever the rest of the world punishes them for there wicked evil behavior? Many of the Arab countries are like the bad children in a family who can't seem to learn from there mistakes and keep getting more and more worse.
An attempt by the elites to bolster one of their own.
An attempt to restore legitimacy to a plundering, greed stricken ruling caste that is so afraid of its citizens that it has to surveil them around the clock and strip them of their constitutional rights.
It would seem that, considering some of the choices that the Nobel Committee has made, there is no set of standards to determine who should merit the Nobel Peace Prize.
I think that, if possible, Obama should inform the committee that he does not wish to accept the prize. There must be someone else in the world who is worthy.
Is it too much to hope that Obama will do the right thing and decline the prize, assuming that he's aware he doesn't deserve it yet, for he needs to accomplish a lot!!!
Why some of the responses here are sorely anti US and it's policies does not surprise me.
Regarding the anti US talk. It's typical Europeans that think they know Americans. I'm not American but I've been to the US and I've realized a lot of things.
It is a brave decision by Oslo. This could be the prize that will actually change something. As opposed to the normal one that happens after a certain event.
The guys in Oslo are not stupid they know what they are doing. I think that the intention behind it is to say to Obama we like what you are doing keep up the good work and do not let us down (us = the world). Close Guitmo, End the war in IRAQ and close a deal between Israelis and Palestinians.
As for the international scene, China and Russia are in stiff competition with the US for Africa's natural resources. Seems pretty smart to put a black president in there as a symbol to help sway the people there to the American perspective rather than the Russian or Chinese.
We wont be buyiny anything but Food and Shelter.But,
the wealthy will go on.....
We will become a large third world country,already less than half our pop pays taxes.Yes, this is never going to change.
We are not buying GM or Volvo.... There is no credit,Sorry!
God Bless SWEDEN
theibmsstate
Ummm...Sweden isn't neutral. It has just chosen a very shrewd path to protect its money. And that's fine, but don't pretend to be something you aren't. And don't forget where that money largely came from either, providing raw materials to the Nazi war machine during WWII.
As a fellow American, I've got to you ask you to put down the bottle before you post such rambling and totally inane nonsense.
Please, resist posting on this forum when impaired... really, it shows, big time.
Unfortunately, these days anybody with an internet connection and a keyboard is able to put forth goofy-ass assertions without any supporting evidence.
So it goes. On and on and on.
In two weeks the whiners, moaners and their fear filled rants will be history.
They will be busy finding something else to whine and moan about. So sad, instead of doing something to help or encouraging the ones brave enough to attempt something, they sit in their dark holes and spread fear and despair. I am really not surprised that the choice of Obama as NPrecepient is so complex for them to grasp. They never sat with themselves long enough to contemplate world peace, climate change, human suffering. Rush limbaugh and fox news etc. are their information sources.
Think of others!!!!!!
quit whining... gather round obama and rally for the change and peace he so desire's... furthermore people, he is 1st african american president ... an african american man is the most powerful man in world right now... if that is not bridging a gap then what is?
As for reaching out to the Arab world, what has he done there? Sure, he has jumped on Israel (maybe that is what got the committee all turned on) but I see nothing of any substance there either. Ironic, the left jumped on Bush for being too connected to the Saudi Arabians. Strange.
Sarcozy deserved it for his great contribution for implementing facism and racism. He is the only racist leader in EU.
As for Obama, we may expect him good efforts for peace in the future but he hasn't done anything significantly for peace so far. So this prize is ridicolous. Btw, If Shimon Prez got it why not Obama?!!! It seems that this Noble prize of peace awarded to war mongers to stop it!!!
http://www.jaysonmusson.com/Pink_Robots.html
You present a typical Pakistani views. Don't you think Manmohan Singh is showing a tolerance towards Pakistan? Even during that attack on Mumbai (the whole world knows the terrorists were Pakistanis supported by ISI), he showed patience. Dear Name, who cares, don't make joke of yourself. Do not try to portray the good image of Pakistan, the whole world knows. So now you have invented Hindu terrorist, good. Another typical Pakistani view. Your ISI is so scared by the presence of the Indian embassy in Afghanistan, they have bombed twice! Don't make fun of yourself.
The Noble committee said Barack Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for, "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples." Barack Obama has made no extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples! This is just another example of a twisted and immoral political agenda by those who award these so called prizes. In fact Barack Obama has gone out of his way to weaken international diplomacy--and cooperation between peoples. Barack Obama has reached out to communist despots and Arab murderers--to give them legitimacy when they have none. Barack Obama has singled out Israel and meddled in their internal affairs and has worked to promote the Arab squatters and murderers who call themselves palestinians. These things and many more besides do not work to promote international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. Barack Obama has done nothing good to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize--and that is precisely why he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. His radical fascist, communistic, irresponsible, hate America, weaken America, anti US constitution, hate Israel, weaken Israel, give into Muslim terrorism, promote Muslim terrorism, promote racism, promote the perverse immorality of homosexuality--is exactly what those foolish perverts at the Nobel foundation stand for! Barack Obama was not awarded this "Peace Prize" for what he has actually accomplished--but rather for his ideology and what he would like to accomplish. Oh, and let's not forget these notable recipients of The Nobel Peace Prize--a true rogues gallery: Henry Kissinger--known anti Semite, Israel hater, fascist/globalist/communist and anti American, Anwar al Sadat--known anti Semite, Israel hater, murderer and warmonger, Desmond Tutu--Known anti Israel, communist and promoter of homosexual perversion, Dalai Lama--known Buddhist pervert, Mikhail Gorbachev--known anti USA, fascist/globalist and communist, Yasser Arafat--known fascist, anti Semite, Israel hater, mass murderer and terrorist, Kofi Annan--known anti semite, anti Israel, anti USA and corrupt politician, Jimmy Carter--known anti semite, anti Israel, anti USA, communist/fascist/globalist and supporter/promoter of homosexual perversion, Al Gore--Known international communist/fascist/globalist, anti USA, promoter of the lie of man made global warming/climate change.
@Name,Who Cares
You present a typical Pakistani views. Don't you think Manmohan Singh is showing a tolerance towards Pakistan? Even during that attack on Mumbai (the whole world knows the terrorists were Pakistanis supported by ISI), he showed patience. Dear Name, who cares, don't make joke of yourself. Do not try to portray the good image of Pakistan, the whole world knows. So now you have invented Hindu terrorist, good. Another typical Pakistani view. Your ISI is so scared by the presence of the Indian embassy in Afghanistan, they have bombed twice! Don't make fun of yourself.
Hello Mr me_i_sverige
In asia all the root problems started coz of india.dont blame Pakistan.
all the problems in pakistan coz of india.just see the history.india relationship are not good with CHINA,PAKISTAN,SRILANKA, NEPAL etccc
just keep in mind if india try alot to destabalize pakistan india cannt do.
PAKISTAN is powerful Country.
in NWFP swat operation indian ARMS are discovered,dont be fool.on the tribel belt of pakistan india started to create problems for pakistan.India will be not successful in thier Aims.india has not learn from 1965 and 1971 wars.
thanks MR me_i_sverige
get a life brothers! There is still a lot to be discovered in the world. Read, learn and educated yourself!! Free your mind from the mind control of masses and the biased media. Think rationally and not emotionally. I know many people here go emotional when they see a 'black' President of United states of America; that is a death to your thinking...you go emotional and you lose the mind control now anything that you will think hencefroth will be based on your liking and disliking and not on the truth and the facts.
Be rational...Free yourselves from the mind control..read news and analyze critically. Remember
' Do not let the hatred of your hearts dissuade you from doing justice' and 'Be just even if you have to go against yourself, your parents or your family' (Quran).
//Peace
I have just posted my view on this matter to our USA- Africa Forum:
http://groups.google.com/group/usaafricadialogue/browse_thread/thread/5b3d344083bbd366/45cd4d97c59adb72?hl=en#45cd4d97c59adb72
I should just like to add that Barack Obama did not vote for the invasion of Iraq since he was not a member of the senate at that time and we will never know how he would have voted, although Joe Scarborough says,
"if Barack Obama were in the Senate in 2002 he would have voted the way Joe Biden voted, Christopher Dodd voted, John Edwards voted, Hillary Clinton voted, the establishment of the Democratic Party voted."
This year's NPP award is a global indictment of US foreign policy for the last 8 years under the previous hawkish administration and a reflection of general world opinion.
Obama may or may not deserve it, but anyone would be perceived as peaceful compared to a hillbilly president who started several wars, destroyed several countries, aggravated Russia, interned people without trial, abused human rights, bullied smaller nations, made the USA the most unpopular country in the world, and can't even speak his own native language fluently!
In the meantime, yeehaw to Norway!
Peace
"His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population."
In other words, he received the prize because his philosophy is in line with that of the committee. I find it a bit disturbing that the committee believes the president of America - a country with its own values, priorities and desires - should form policy based on the values and attitudes of foreigners. Nonetheless, that's what they want and Obama is their man.
In the end, did Obama deserve it. Of course not. There are people that have sacrificed all they have, laid their life on the line and suffered in silence for the sake of peace. For Obama to receive the award is pure politics and a joke. Then again, this is the same committee that awarded Arafat, Gore, the UN climate panel and Carter. We shouldn't expect more. Next year it could be Hamas.
He "finds it a bit disturbing that the committee" (primarily Norwegian) bases its decision "on the values and attitudes of foreigners" (the majority of the world's population). LOL!
Oooh, how scary all us nasty foreigners must all be who don't appreciate it when the US coerces its allies into fighting two meaningless wars in the Middle East - "you're either with us or against us", aggravates Russia by trying to expand NATO into their "sphere of influence" (a supposedly non-expansionist post WW2 treaty organization), and generally behaves like an NFL linebacker on steroids.
I'm not anti-American, but I am one of those nasty "foreigners" who thinks that Americans are naive if they didn't realize how much bad feeling the hypocrisy and repression of the Bush Administration generated around the world.
Obama is being rewarded for at least offering the rhetoric of peace and reconciliation, though judging from this thread it's going to make him even more unpopular among the more vociferous neocons and right-wing wackos in his homeland.
I would say that is justification enough for the award.
As the great orator George W Bush once said: "I'm telling you there's an enemy that would like to attack America, Americans, again. There just is. That's the reality of the world. And I wish him all the very best."
US want to Offer Kerry logal Bill aid for pakistan and need to access Pakistan Nuclear Plants and Pak Army.
is this civilized thinking to access and interfere other country.is this call PEACE.
whats the AIM to access other country politics.is this called Nobel Peace Prize.
USA has nuclear power and dont want why iran has why pakistan has.....
whynot they fininsh 1st.
common sense.
ONLY MUSLIMS ARE SUFFEREING AND ALL THE WORLD IS AGAINST MUSLIMS WHY??????????????????????????????????????????
so does it really matter?
it's because most of Muslim countries (like Middle east, Asia including Indonesia) they have big natural resources such oil etc. Just wiki Afganistan and you will get not surprised how rich this country.
Terrorist or islamphobia is the strategy which is used by certain westworld in order to achieve their goal. They got Iraq (read: iraq's oil) already and the next target is Iran. note: that they are targeting islam's country with the leader who doesn't want to be their puppet.
If you learn marketing or working in Advertising then you understand that terrorism and islamphobia is one of the big successful campaign (I've ever seen) in which many people buy this idea and consume this product.
You wrote:
He "finds it a bit disturbing that the committee" (primarily Norwegian) bases its decision "on the values and attitudes of foreigners" (the majority of the world's population). LOL!
Wrong. The committee can do what they want. They have their life and I have mine. I find it disturbing that any head of State would bend according to the values and attitudes of people other than the constituents that elect them. If Obama would've said "Elect me, so I can do the bidding of the French". He wouldn't have won. You have a problem with it too. That what your ranting about Bush stems from. He took the whole world on a ride based on HIS priorities and values. Get it yet?
Secondly, their statement is propaganda that borders on a lie. They didn't give Obama the prize because of his respect for worldly values, they gave it to him because of his respect for THEIR values. Do you know what it would mean if we (as the West in general) began forming policy base on world consensus? Would it strengthen the democratic tradition that lets us post this? Let's see... no. The majority of the world is not democratic. Personal freedoms? Um.No. The majority of the world actually still has traditions like arranged marriages. Better education maybe? No again. The majority of the world does not prioritize education in the way we do in the West. Would it better the rights of women? Gays? Minorities? No. No. No. Should I continue? I think the progress achieved on each of these issues should not be conceded based on the fact that the majority of the world doesn't agree. Much better to take a live and let live attitude. Forget consensus.
President Obama has made extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples.
He has also demonstrated his strong commitment to help build peace and defend fundamental human rights, including through the atlantic alliance, UN, G-20, etc. This honour is well deserved.
Is it the last days of honest Europe?
So far Obama has been trying do something really sincere but result yet to be seen.
now i ask, how does a peace organization support division instead of a union?
I think the forum TL provides is an important part of their service but it bothers me to see the drift from civilized discourse to a platform at times espousing absolute hatred and intolerance. If world diplomacy was handled in these terms we would be back into world war situations in no time.
I think it is time that people began considering their rhetoric more carefully. Express your opinions - but consider the consequences of publishing 'hate mail' under the anonymity that the internet provides.
I actually still hold out hope that the world can be a better place.
'Obama Is Like a Chess Player'
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Obama+Is+Like+a+Chess+Player
This is the committee saying to Obama, if you are serious about peace, then please don't let the industrial military complex mad men bomb Iran. In my view this is the most important award ever given to any one since this thing began.
Once you understand the path the Anglo American alliance has chosen, and more importantly where its leading us, then this award becomes very relevant. But in order to understand you must first do some research, the truth is out there it is up to you to seek it.
I notice that they are too many over opinionated under educated individuals commenting here, you see opinions are like idiots every got one. Seek the truth instead of letting hatred, and anger cloud your taught process.
Opinions are like buttholes everyone got one, and most of them stink, are you using tabloid news papers, or kleenex to wipe yours? Moron.
@manamann - so you moved to Sweden? How did you do that?
Geem Typical Whitey you should change your name to Typical DITTOHEAD Whitey.
IRT to Obama's award, hey it is better than having shoes tossed at you.
I appreciate your local news. I work with a friend from Sweden.
James
I am not sure if anyone has ever refused this prise and I think he would have been even more scrutinized for saying he did not stand for Peace. Heck, anyone picking up that failure of a human being and president that just left the White House deserves the NPP!
Gosh I cannot wait until we stop using oil (Switch grass anyone?) so we do not have to listen to your "we are the real victims" story. It is getting so tired and it is at least 1200 years old. The thing about it is when people say they are the victims sometimes they are the root cause.
Hej Laqueen...Talk to some Macedonians or Greeks about Islam if you want to be enlightened about the "religion of peace". This conspiracy of yours started way before we needed oil.
Of course Obama did not deserve it but he did not ask for it either. It was the last thing he needed.
I wish him the best.