February 13, 2012
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Online: http://www.thelocal.se/22656/20091014/
An amended version of Sweden's controversial new signals intelligence law was passed in the Riksdag on Wednesday, with 158 members voting in favour and 153 against.
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It's kind of ironic that it's the right-wing parties behind this law and the left-wing ones against, considering how the righties are always complaining about the intrusive state.
Anyway, it would be nice if The Local would provide a link to the actual amendments so that we don't have to hear it in spin terms from different politicians, but can read it in black and white. I'm against the patriot act in the US and am in principle against this. However, the last few paragraphs of this article makes it sound like all monitoring is based on specific warrants. That's no different than what the US and most western country's have had since the dawn of the telephone. I thought by the way this article started that this was a case of warrant-less wiretapping, indiscriminately on all communication (i.e. the patriot act). Again, can we get a link, too lazy to goole this morning.
If this prevents even one terrorist murder of an innocent then its worth the law.
As for the Left Party opposing it, what a joke, their heroes from the Soviet Union listened to everything!
As for it being part of the election campaign, I cant see it, more people are concerned about jobs and the economy and rightly so!
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I can't help feeling this kind of blanket generalisation of some kind of global threat tyo our security is exactly the mindset that Bush's paradoxically named 'War on Terror' was designed to inspire. Actually many, many more people have been killed worldwide by America, Britain, Russia and Israel in the so-called 'war on terror' than have been killed by what we in the west dubiously describe as 'terrorists'.
So which 'innocents' are really under the most threat
of being killed by 'terrorists'?
I would say it is NOT us in Europe or America.
It's the poor blighters in Chechnya, Pakistan, Palestine, Afghanistand, Lebanon and Iraq (in all cases predominantly moslems) who are being killed by us the western superpower 'state terrorists'.
There are enough whackos and cranks out there that make this law necessary to protect us.
I have lived most of my life in a country that has been bombed by militants, if a law like this can prevent another Omagh atrocity then it has to be worth it.
If this law had no merit then why would the Alliance Government introduce it? Hardly a vote winner is it?
Shane
When they (the Socialists) were in charge they initialized that law - as far as I recall - and former left "winged Sweden" had very intense contacts with STASI the former secret service of Sovjet Germany (DDR).
I recommend the DVD "Life of the other" (original: Das Leben Der Anderen), what is a soft drama about the former German Democratic Republic where there was no right for individual, personal integrity.
Sweden is on the way to become a "DDR light" by this new law, I think.
Cheers, Lucy
I can imagine that the NSA offered Sweden a "deal": eavesdrop and share your information with us, or we won't share our information with you.
Given that the US information is global and more complete, and thus perhaps more "useful" in curtailing potential violence, I surmise that the Swedish state cut the best terms it could in order to retain access to American intelligence while withstanding domestic criticism. Of course, the Government probably got no guarantees from the NSA and bought a large amount of domestic criticism. You might say, lose-lose..
Which begs the question: what exactly is any of this intended to accomplish? Billions spent on surveillance hasn't stopped terrorism, has resulted in untold incursions on legal communications, and makes everyone around the world that much more paranoid about potential techno-totalitarianism. It's a rotten business.
Maybe it's just that I am American and view this a bit differently living here in Sweden than others, but I think it was said best by one of America's founding fathers:
"They that can give up essential liberty for a little safety deserve neither safety or liberty." - Benjamin Franklin
It's a matter of freedom. It's a matter of privacy. Every little instance we decide to allow government to control us, is one more step closer to living in an Orwellian world.
Believe me, I value my freedom a lot more than I value my livelihood, because life isn't worth living to me if it means I am not free. I doubt I am the only one who passionately feels the same way about freedom as do I.
It's like that saying: it's better to die on your feet, than live on your knees.
I'll take my dignity, my privacy and my freedom, thank you.