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Charges filed for torture- like parenting methods

Published: 26 Oct 09 11:53 CET | Double click on a word to get a translation
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/22882/20091026/

A Stockholm-area couple have been indicted for using torture-like methods to raise their children, including hitting them with shoehorns and stabbing them with knives and forks.

The children involved are aged four, seven, and eight, with police launching an investigation several months ago after the middle child told a school nurse about the way the parents treated the children, the Metro newspaper reports.

During interviews with police, the children told of almost abuse from the parents when one of the failed to abide by the parents’ wishes.

“Mom hit me with a shoehorn,” one daughter told police, according to Metro.

According to the children, the couple also punished them with stabs from a knife and fork hard enough to cause pain, but not hard enough to cause visible injuries.

The parents deny the charges, instead claiming the children’s bruises come from injuries sustained during falls during gymnastics and athletics practice.

“Why would I hit my beloved children?,” the mother said to police during an interrogation.

Prosecutor Pontus Klang, who formally filed the charges of gross violation of a person’s integrity (grov fridskränkning), told Metro the indictment is based on interviews with the children as well as personnel from their school.

Ever since a formal complaint was received, the family has been placed in a supervised family care facility.

TT/David Landes (news@thelocal.se)

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16:33 October 26, 2009 by spy
A wooden spoon is better than a shoehorn.
16:47 October 26, 2009 by martell
Which are the reasons that we may not learn a bit more about the background of this family, i.e. social class, financial or drug problems, social classification of the neighborhood they live in, ethnicity?
17:07 October 26, 2009 by DreEstwd
Martell, here are all of the reasons in one sentence: They are foreign nationals and most likely from an Arabic country.

Child abuse is RAMPANT in these types of families. I know this from working in the Swedish school system for a couple of years now. It's no secret. Anyone who disputes this is ignorant or possibly an ultra-leftist.
18:49 October 26, 2009 by spy
DreEstwd

Is everyone in the Swedish school system as open minded as you or are you just special?
19:53 October 26, 2009 by geecee61
No excuse here what so ever...they are not fit to be called parents...and should be removed from all parenting duties of these poor children,the ethnicity or social class excuse will be little comfort when the level of violence against children escalates to murder...stamp it out and stamp it out hard.
21:18 October 26, 2009 by fridayz
Dre Estwd,

Would you prefer the two murderers in the article "Juvenile care for Stureby teen killing" be middle eastern as well?
01:04 October 27, 2009 by tonycobh
Folks - admit it. The problem with physical child abuse in Sweden is a Muslim thing out of all proportion to their numbers. Why do so many of you refuse to face up to such facts?

Have you been so brainwashed by peecee thought control?
09:59 October 27, 2009 by spy
Tonycoby

Your statement doesn't make any sense.
12:48 October 27, 2009 by DreEstwd
Sorry, guys. The truth isn't always P.C. Deal with it.
17:09 October 27, 2009 by Per Fritz
I came to Sweden expecting...well....naked Swedish women - what i found was fully covered muslim women who beat their children
18:01 October 27, 2009 by tonycobh
Spy - my comment doesn't make sense only if you don't want it to. Domestic violence in Muslim communities is at a level far 'ahead' of that in the West. A number of studies undertaken by Muslims themselves have identified this and looked for ways to combat it.

Saying 'every community experiences this' is a cop-out. There is a problem of child and spousal abuse and it's overwhelmingly among your Muslim cultural enrichers.

Quite simple really.
20:05 October 27, 2009 by spy
tonycobh

OK your last comment makes sense but the previous one didn't - maybe you were writing as you speak.

However nowhere in the article does it say that the family in question was muslim. Do you have some more insight in to this matter or are you just one of these people who blames all of swedens ills on immigrants?
20:26 October 27, 2009 by tonycobh
spy - I have a lot of insight if I may say so, much of it gleaned from extensive travel in the Muslim world over many years. I know it's a cliche, but I do have many Muslim friends. They ADMIT that domestic violence (against wives and children) is endemic in their communities (they don't blame it on Islam, of course). I'd take long odds on the fact that the perp in question is Muslim.

Fact is, and surely you must realise this, that Islam as we know it's practiced is totally incomptaible with Swedish culture? I've spoken to many Muslims in Stockholm and they admit that they often find Swedish culture 'disgusting' (a bit ironic, that!) and that they'd love to change it.
20:33 October 27, 2009 by Nina_
Oh my god... you guys are all immigrants, and talking crap about other immigrants like you based on their religious background. I am catholic, I respect all religions, and have some awesome friends who are muslim -they don't drink, don't fight, and don't beat their spouses or children. You guys are so fast in judging people. It's not a matter of faith, it is a matter of education.
21:34 October 27, 2009 by tonycobh
nina - not all of us are immigrants. I'm a business and vacation visitor for more than 20 years but live elsewhere.

You say "have some awesome friends who are muslim -they don't drink, don't fight, and don't beat their spouses or children". I'm sure you're correct. But what does it prove? That not all or even a majority of Muslims are like this. And I agree.

However, and it's a big however, the incidence of such abuse is higher by orders of magnitude in Muslim societies than in western democracies. That's the point.

And as a Catholic could you answer this question: Why is it that in Muslim countries Christians are at best tolerated, at worst attacked and marginalised? Whay can't you build a church in the 'purest' (titter) Islamic country of all, Saudi Arabia?

And finally, why is it that EVERWHERE, when Muslims reach a certain tipping point of the population, inter-communal violence and troubles take off?

And may I make a closing suggestion. Ask your awesome Muslim friends whether they believe a woman should be stoned for adultery or whether a convert from Islam to Christianity should be killed? If they say no, they're either lying or they're not Muslims!
08:52 October 28, 2009 by Osokin
The article says "not enough to cause visible injuries", but the kid is bruised. Bruised by a shoehorn ? Knives and forks leaving bruises ? See how fast the tard gang here jumps to accuse, label and peg this very vague info to a ethnic group ... barbarism begins at home indeed.
09:43 October 28, 2009 by spy
tonycobh

Clearly you are not a fan of muslims for whatever reason. However I say again, nowhere in the article does it say that the family in question was muslim so I fail to see how you can justify your 'Muslim bashing' in this case.
10:25 October 28, 2009 by tonycobh
spy - i never said the people in the case were Muslims. I said that such barbarities are heavily over-represented among Muslims. However, I'd be happy to take long odds that when the identities are revealed (IF they are revealed) they'll be seen to be adherents of the Religion of Peace.
13:45 October 28, 2009 by ukgal28
I think this type of abuse of children is horrible, and regardless of the enthnicity of the parents, if they're guilty they should be punished (whatever that is in Sweden).

@tonycobh

Rightly or wrongly, Sharia law states that both people found guilty of adultery should be stoned, not just the woman although I conceed this seems to vary by country.... http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_adul2.htm
16:12 October 28, 2009 by tonycobh
@ukgal

So they BOTH get stoned to death? Ah well, that's ok then.
22:05 October 28, 2009 by spy
tonycobh

Oh so you don't have any insight into this case. . Interesting that you inferred that this is generally a Muslim problem and more interesting that you would wager as such.

You may be right but at this stage it is just in your imagination.
07:19 October 29, 2009 by Uncle
You all tolerant and beautiful people who deny any connection between islam and domestic violence, do not rush to buy a villa in Hjällbo, Rosengård, Angered, Bergsjön etc. where Somalians/Arabs dominate. You do not run to enroll your kids into these kindergartens and schools, where according to some Swedish parents their kids are beaten on a daily basis by their wonderful and tolerant peers.

But you sit and moan about intolerance of others... The best you can do is to tell how much you traveled (which means that you have money and you live in a cute little protestant/white/educated area) or lived in a "multicultural" area before, without mentioning why you ran away from that area like from fire..

Stop with this hypocrisy it just makes you look stupid...
08:18 October 29, 2009 by spy
No I would not buy a property in those areas but not because they are dominated by Somalians or Arabs you racist pr*ck.
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