February 14, 2012
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Sweden's much-vaunted gender equality statistics do not stretch as far as the boardrooms of private companies, an area in which the country has fallen way off the international pace, argues Nima Sanandaji, president of the free market think tank Captus.
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Regarding CEO's women CEO's are virtually unknown in Sweden.
This needs to be tackled immediately.
Instead of looking at gender, look at which individual who is better suited for that certain job.
I can also add that the extreme-feminists aren't helping Swedish woman, or women in general, at all. They are actually creating a larger gap between men and women.
You are talking nonsense.
Women in Sweden do work outdoors. I have a friend who works on building sites and is able to juggle married life and three children. Yesterday I was talking to a woman laying paving slabs outside my partment about doing some renovation work in my apartment.
The article is not propaganda. You may prefer an all male enviroment and that is your choice, but do not impose it on us women against our will.
At CEO and director level in Sweden there is a very real porblem with a severe lack of women in those positions. That barriers to women obtaining those positions on merit, need to be removed.
While you may be correct it up to women to claw their way to the top. I am an immigrant to Sweden and I am in the same boat, very few if any immigrants as CEO's (unless it is their own company).
No amount of government involvement or legislation will make life fair either for women, immigrants, or anyone else who is not "equal" in some category although their potential to be equal is there.
Maybe more women should start their own companies and play by their rules rather than trying to climb to the top in a male dominated company. As an immigrant we have to use the same tactics to make it up the food chain here because we will generally hit a ceiling within a Swedish company rather quickly.
Good luck to you,
Krigeren
I know where you are coming from. It is always harder for immigrants, no matter what country it is.
The issue of women in the boardroom in Sweden is a serious issue. In most companies in Sweden it is blatant sexism. They can dress it up in whatever manner they wish it is blatant sexism. In the case of immigrants, it is racism. It is the same in Ireland, if not actually worse.
As both an immigrant and a woman I intend to start my own company in the middle of next year as I have given up trying to get advancement. I have most of the pieces in place and just some final touches to get sorted out.
Good luck to you as well. I hope you are sucessful.
Andrea
Gender should not be a factor in determining advancement. An individual has to be able to interact and demonstrate the ability to lead individuals of both sexes in order to advance. That is just common sense.
Occupying an office chair for the same number of years as the person next to you does not make you as good as the next person. Only your demonstrated ability and the value of your productivity should matter in your compensation and advancement. That said, the value of individual productivity and individual potential seem to always be missing in the metrics that are used to compare various positions with regard to gender.
An individual who cannot gain the respect of their coworkers and convince their own company management of their own leadership abilities has little chance of swaying major customers or managing stockholders' expectations as a CEO. If members of the opposite sex or even of your own sex do not take you seriously in your own company how are the individuals that you contact outside of your company on it's behalf going to think of you? How does this effect the company's bottom line? Individual cases are unique. As many of us know there are bitter people that are quick to complain that they have been passed over due to discrimination when we know that more often than not it has been done due to individual performance. At the same time we also know that there are some genuine cases that involve bias.
SVT a year or two ago was covering gender equality with regards to nurses which has both male & female workers. They were reporting complaints on the basis of gender inequality when comparing the compensation of doctors; a group dominated by male workers. with the compensation of nurses. The comparison was absurd. The general reports stating the number of males and females in one occupation or another or even level of management do not necessarily indicate bias.
Gender bias does happen, and when it does it should be confronted. whether it happens to an individual at a place of work or when it appears in a meaningless report on alleged gender bias in the article above.
Please stop talking nonsense.
In Sweden women are not getting high positions, even though they deserve them on merit.
That is what the problem is.
Thanks:)
**My definition of equal is equal access to opportunities, not equal income.
Your need to live in a male only world which is full of manly men, is noted.
For your information if you are actually capable of comprehending it, which you most likely are not.
women are as smart as men if not smarter,
women are equal to men,
women can do the same jobs as men,
If you think otherwise, find yourself a colony where only men are allowed and stay there. You can then enjoy your roman / spartan men only lifestyle choice, as much as you like.
In Sweden people are trying to address the imbalances in the system due to sexism at the upper echolons of business.
No one needs people like you in Sweden.
Actually we don't need people like you anywhere in Europe.
Since you hate Sweden and Swedish ideas so much.
Sell your belongings at blocket.se
Sell your home at hemnet.se
Book a flight out of Sweden and Europe at flysas.com
I hope you find your men only society somewhere, so that you can be happy the rest of your men only lives. You might want to try Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Afghanistan, USA or Dubai.
I hope that information is useful to you in your men only search.
Bye bye.
It is a fact that MEN AND WOMEN ARE EQUAL in everything but brains and brawn... And you are proof of the brains part.
But one is almost missing in men and the other in women.
Any other comment?
It is obvious that you didn't even bother to read beyond the headline of the article. Instead you have found a blank space where you can once again ramble on and on.
Unlike you who seem to be fixated on sexism, the writer of the article feels that the pool of possible female candidates for higher management positions and opportunities of an entrepreneurial nature has been limited by Sweden's women flocking to public sector positions. Get over yourself Nemesis.
Please reread my post before you try to state I want to live in a male-only society. The article stated that government attempts to adress sexism do not work as well as when women are allowed to compete on an even level with men, and I wholeheartedly agree. Please dont include the USA in your list of "men only" societies. As the article states in many population centers here women earn more on average then men. There are also more female executives here as a percentage. Since that is the case maybe you should add Sweden to the list of the "men only" socities and remove the USA.
Notice how she constantly is telling other people they speak nonsense, but in many cases doesnt say why. It is not femenism so it must be nonsense.
Also notice the comment:
women are as smart as men if not smarter.
Typical statement of a swedish femenists who proclaim that they are for equality but where in fact they are female supremacist.
I have lived and worked in Sweden for almost all my life and I have seen many different cultures and swedish women are among the most lazy and self serving I have seen. They expect to have things served to them just because they are women.
That is why US women are much more successful in many areas. They actually have to get ahead on the basis of merits rather than their gender.
Having lived my entire life in the US I can assure you that the facts presented are incorrect. There is no way that the US has any advantage for women over Sweden - no way!
I can believe that there are more women managers in the US than in Sweden. However, let's keep that in perspective for a moment. What does it mean to be a manager? The US has seen a trend towards renaming job titles such that there may be a department of ten people with a team lead, supervisor, manager, and a director - hmm who are the workers then? In a nutshell being a manager doesn't mean much here in terms of pay or respect.
We need to ask what a successful private sector career entails. What exactly does that mean? Is it equal pay? Is it better pay? Respect? I can tell you that it's not in most all of the cases.
Having worked here my entire life, women are certainly under the glass ceiling. The pay we make here in the US is 80% of what men make for doing the exact same job at the exact same company. I've worked in payroll and I've seen it over and over again. Of those women reported as earning more than men, yes it happens but it's rare. Also, what do those women do for a living compared to their men? They are most likely way more educated (of which we have to pay for entirely ourselves here) and work at a more demanding job.
Let's not get started on the high taxes in Sweden vs the US. Basically, our taxes are much lower because we don't get crap. There are over 40 million Americans who are uninsured and work full time jobs. Even for those of us who are insured, we still have to pay for much of the costs and the care is quite limited. I'd happily pay higher taxes to have the services that are offered in Sweden, it's actually cheaper in the long run.
For anyone doubting this, do some research and see for yourself. Subjects to check on ; the maternity leave (lack of) paternity leave (too bad, men don't get time with their babies), vacation and sick policy, work hours including overtime without pay. Also, study the public sector org chart and you'll see where the women are, in the low paid overworked departments with snazzy job titles such as "Manager" and "Director". Also, check out the representation by women in US government, it's quite sad.
In other words, Women aren't getting ahead in the US versus Sweden, oh please! It's all relative until one takes the time to actually compare data and fully understand it beyond the buzz words.
Ok lets start with a joke!
Q: How many feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: 100. One to change it, and 99 to wring their hands and agonize about how oppressed the socket is.
LOL!
Ok well I'm going to ignore the fact that the term "Welfare State" in the US is more or less a Pejorative used for low life government agents looking for an opportunity to screw the public and hand out free money to lazy people.
But common since here would be if Sweden would choose to abandon outcome based policies.
But WAITE!
That would pretty much rule out the whole Feminist BS altogether would it not.
Sweden should get relevant and start worrying about people that are really oppressed, and not the >>make believe oppression of women.