March 19, 2010
Published: 24 Nov 09 16:16 CET
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Outspoken Ryanair CEO Michael O’Leary slammed a Swedish consumer rights group on Tuesday, adding that the discount airline has not yet ruled out requiring passengers to pay to use the toilet while in the air.
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Didnt know that, will add it to my list of "why not to fly with RyanAir".
Thanks!
"They don't generate any money," he said, according to the E24 business news website.
"We don't want the money either, but are interested in using the toilet space for extra seats in the plane…we have to think differently if we're going to keep our prices low."
Charging for use of the toilet or removing them would actually reduce Ryanairs revenue.
The few Euros that he might get from desperate passengers would be a drop in the ocean compared to the loss of bar sales from the passengers who will not buy a beer of coffee because of a fear they may need to go to the loo.
Unless the whole cabin is re-engineered at great expense, he could only get 1 or 2 extra seats in place of the aft toilet. The forward toilet could not be used a seating for legal/safety reasons.
Cautionary tale:
In the 60's a British charter airline Channel Air, removed toilets on it Trident aircraft to make way for more seats.
They went bust soon afterwards
Been there,done that got the teeshirt
Actually they are - Ryanair deals beat any other airline. If you want to get away for a couple of days and take one of their special offers they are MUCH cheaper than SAS, even with the cost of getting to/from Skavsta.
I dislike taking Ryaniar flights, and will only take them when the cost of doing so is at least half that of SAS, BA, etc.. but when I want to fly home 3 - 4 times a year and I can do so at a third of the price I would be stupid not to. Not that I agree with having to pay for using the toilet and such, but I know what to expect when I fly with them. I take a snack with me, I don't check a bag and I don't buy any of their crappy food which is overpriced and tastes horrible.
Ryanair may have debatable 'morals' but they serve a purpose and people will always take their flights no matter how much they complain about them.
example last year there was other story about the sex from the stewardess if you buy 1st class .. just before he expanded the Stockholm flights ..
I do agree that the some of the consumer agencies seem idiotic to non Swedes .. like the Toys-R-US being sued in Sweden for gender bias .. because their commercials don't show boys in princess dresses
Quite honestly, I haven't found their service too bad either. They seem to have gotten rid of the Lubas screaming "sit down, shut up" on the PA. At 300 SEK average for most return trips- I have to say they're a great deal.
People would still use them even if he charged to pee... how could he charge? Have a person on the door taking money? Doubt it...a coin slot? Well people would just hold the door open for the next person...Less Tea n Beer Sales would occur too.
Stop being Greedy O'Leary!
Having said that I still love Ryan Air, flying with them tomorrow to London for 2kr return, thats all fees, taxes and 'extras'.
And again, this is a PR stunt to get you talking about Ryan Air, they arnt actually stupid enough to do such a thing like charge for the toilets, its to create publicity, and any publicity is good publicity.
Wake up and smell the on board coffee, its all PR!!!
SAS is not cheaper than ryanair.. the next 5 weeks sas are charging 3500sek 1 way Dublin to Stockholm for their cheapest flight. Ryanairs cheapest is 110sek (with taxes and charges) and 310sek with a bag. so SAS is 10 times more expensives. Plus that SAS flight will be in a old dangerous MD80.
The ONLY advantage to taking SAS is going from Arlanda rather than Skavsta.Of course the toilet thing is a PR stunt, everyone knows that. Much as I dislike Mr Olearys attitude he is correct about the consumers group, look at the rotten fruit and vegetables that are sold in most (not all) Swedish supermarkets, and its allowed!
Before you slam SAS for flying "old dangerous MD80" consider the alternative. Safety records of the operating carrier. Part of the reason SAS, BA and the like are higher in fares is for maintenance of the fleet. RyanAir is known throughout the airline industry as being shady of ethical practice and lax on their maintenance. I work for a major international carrier and I would NEVER allow a loved one to fly RyanAir.
SAS has an older fleet but a sound fleet and flight crew with proper training and credentials. Personally, I value this much more than a cheap fare.
By the by, if RyanAir removes it's toilets, I believe they will be in violation of the passengers bill of rights. Not to mention, one airsick passenger or baby and that is one plane load of people who will not return to Ryan. Repeat business is the cornerstone to keeping an airline solvent.
I love the way Ryanair stirs passion. I personally hate them. I have flown a lot with them and not. I prefer to support BA and SAS, be treated like a human, and enjoy my flight - long may BA keep their free food and drink! However, my family in the UK live near Gatwick, to which Ryanir has started flying to. I have recently used this route for 15gbp all in with bag and fee, single fares. It is really hard to justify paying 4 times more to get to an airport which will take me twice as long to get home from. What can you do? Admittedly, ARN is easier to get to than VST or NYO. ARN you can get to on your SL card via Marsta and bus 583 (something which SL.se does not tell you - but I digress...
Ryanair has a 'hurry up and wait' ideology - those in the Military and Film/TV business will know what this means very well. Your boarding card says 'Gate Closes' at XXXX some ridiculously early time - designed to get you there at the gate wasting time. I like to stay comfortable until the last minute before getting on board. If you want that personal touch, why not sit by the gate until they call you forward, by name, to board, over the tannoy. This turns the table on who is waiting on who! ;-) Who is the customer afterall in this business affair?!?!
Another thought is these people who have big shiney BMWs who fly Ryanair all the time?! Surely these people wouldnt be seen dead in a 'naff' car, yet they fly in a cattle truck - weird.