February 14, 2012
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Swedish high school (gymnasium) students’ skills in maths and physics have declined considerably in the last decade, according to the results of an international study.
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The mathmatics standards has been dropping a bit for a while now in Sweden, although not as long or far as the UK and Ireland.
There is a lot of very good mathmatics teachers who have just come from Kosovo, Serbia, Croatia, Poland and Russia. They should be given more intensive SFI and Konvux courses to get them into teaching in Sweden. That would help fill the gap regarding good mathmatics teachers for a while.
Sweden needs to start encouraging people to train to be mathmatics teachers to fill the recrutiment gap in the long term.
A drive to help with the increase in classroom discipline problems needs to occurr at the same time, so as to remove a major hurdle to teacher recruitment.
Also the pay scales of teachers needs to be looked at. They are definately paid to little.
Probably the truth lies halfway; yes Sweden needs better teachers and teaching methods, but the bottom line is that studying math and physics is hard and require a certain dose of personal sacrifice for which the party-oriented swedish youth seems less and less prepared.
Here we have problems with money, where i study there are 7-8 filled classes with only "special" people..these just happen to be immigrants, they cost ALOT because they need extra help.
Sweden looks more like USA because of the segration, Finland dont have these problems.
This sacrifice can "traumatize" Swedish students. And the parents will complain. And the teacher will be fired.
And school is suppose to be funny, not a place for sacrifice.
.........??
successful creative people are often school drop outs.
haha
Don't confuse schooling with education.
I agree with you but you have failed to represent the rest of the world which; believe it or not; also has highly intelligent people.
Case in study: The kid who solved the centuries old maths problem was from Iraq. I am sure the years he lived in Iraq contributed a great deal to his mathematical skills in terms of his tutors there.
Perhaps your case study was an example of the 'infinite monkey theorem' which states that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare.
Excellent points; I fully agree.
Excellent points; I fully agree.
But since we won't be producing Saab or Volvos, we don't need physics or math knowledge!
Of course, these international comparisons don't impress me because there was probably no incentive to perfom. How can you compare exams where no one has any skin in the game...
I think Sweden like other western nations is pushing its youth to learn serious stuff later in life as well as relying on the few that enjoy the serious stuff to be the stewards of the knowledge. Much easier to use the cell phone than actually understand how it works.
As for the idiot who said "Don't confuse schooling with education." Schooling is education dumbwit! Or at least it's the start.
When he went to the prestigious ISGR in Goteborg he was only two years behind, but was still unable to study at his level.
In America, he is a good student, but only average amongst the good students (not an overachiever).
There is much to worry about the education in Sweden. We pulled our kids from the Swedish school system because the cultural benefit wasn't worth the lost education.
I am friends with a recruiter who focuses on placing scientists within corporations within Sweden.
She says its impossible to find students with a "fundamental" understanding of chemistry here and she has to pluck them up from Germany and beyond to fill posts.
So...at least she can already see the impacts of a weak focus by Sweden within the field of science.
I had the same with my kid. Sometimes I had an impression that some teachers have huge gap in their education - none of them had a master's degree - what is absolutely a must in Polish schools.
So I did as you.
During my studies in Sweden, my programme manager told us that swedes are good in IT/programming but utterly terribly in maths whereas the opposite is the case with us international students.
Yes, the use of powerful calculators is also partly to blame.
He is not right in his opinion that they are still superior to young people in England and Ireland. The TIMMS report on which so much of the article was based shows that England has had the greatest increase in performance over the period 1995 to 2008. In the most recent comparisons England was the second highest scoring European nation in both the grade 4 (9 yr old) and grade 8 (13 yr old) categories. 3 pts behind Russia in the first, 1 pt head in the second.
Ireland did not take part.