Sweden boasts record high population growth

I am curious to see the intellectual, financial and social contribution these newly arrived immigrants will bestow up on Sweden.

@ Peropaco: Did you read the article very well? It says that alot of birth is taking place, why are you so racial about immigrants? Swedish citizens also emigrate to other countries too as you can read. You sound so racial in your comment, the world has become a global village as people move from one place to another. You should have a broad and accommodating attitude and stop looking for immigrants to fail. Grow up.

I had no idea Swedes still emigrated to the USA. Any numbers on recent years?

benomax,

Where did I made mention of race in my post and which race was I referring to. You little ignoramus heterocephalus glaber :-)

@kevtravels

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/yearbook/2008/ois_yb_2008.pdf

@benomax: Did you read peropaco's comment very well?

I think many native Swedes are concerned about the intellectual, financial and social contributions of immigrants (newly arrived or not). This would be the case in any country, not only Sweden. There is nothing "racial" (I think you meant racist) about the post at all... In my opinion, it is YOU who is naive and needs to "grow up."

@thetourist,

spot on..

@ Peropaco: I never read any comment that you said racism but, it is my interpretation because you are particular about what immigrants can do to the economy, like a sacastic statement. Of course any one that comes to Sweden is not allowed to constitute a nuisance to the economy, that was why the government established the SFI for migrant to learn the Swedish language first, and from there go to some vocational schools and then pick a job and start paying taxes. Alot of foreigners are working and paying taxes, okay you wait and see how they will contribute to the Swedish economy because I am sure alot are not constituting a nuisance.

How many new arrivals are actually making a contribution to this new, higher population, Sweden and how many are supporting themselves straight out of the pay checks of the rest of us? And what about the aggresive cultural transformation of our stoic Nordic nation? How is that beigg addressed, if at all? Sweden, in my opinion should welcome new arrivals, but not at the expense of permanently altering her historic and cultural fabric. So I'm not sure if this population growth is good, bad, or indifferent.

"What the immigrants can do to the economy" is not a sarcastic statement. It's reality.

Come off it! They are costing us more money than they will ever be able or willing to return and they just keep on coming.

Now, I can reach out an helping hand to just about anyone in real need, but when we are being taking advantage of and they start using and abusing the system I get rather pizzzed off. And I know I'm not alone with these thoughts.

Besides, many, if not as much as half of those coming within these borders are not the innocent victims they shine to be at all, but a bunch of criminals who probably would be put away for all time at home or even executed for crimes they have committed. They come here and claim the "rights" they never even had within their own borders and demand we give them everything they screaming for. I am not the only one who "happens" to know a great deal of very delicate information when it comes down to immigration issues in this country.

And yes, swedes do immigrate too. But the difference here is that we accept and embrace the rules and laws in the country we chose to live in. We don't "claim our rights" and demand their state or government to provide for us. If we did, they would probably just throw us out rather fast and head first. See ya!

Sweden has become a bloody asylum resort for far too many criminals as it is. And of course, they get pregnant and bring a lot of kids to the world that we also have to take care of in the end.

Population growth, fine! I don't mind at all. As long as everybody do their part.

the swedes can't stop procreating.. just what the world needs.. more people!

Well, if you vote for the Marxist Party in charge now you get more immigrants. If you instead vote for the far left marxists of the opposing coalition you'll get more immigrants and more taxation. It's all about choice.

@diegoveggie- It's not the Swedes who are procreating at an abnormal pace. It is the Iraqis and Somalis who come here and have at least 5 kids. Sweden's future is rather bleak.

@ Jan-Bug: Good points you made but, I think you are just one sided. Not all migrants are criminals, some may be as you claimed but not proven, you cannot take one case and put every one in that category. Well you vote for the party that allows less migrants to sweden and let them change the laws on immigration so that you can be satisfied.

As long as one is allowed in sweden, then the right is given and it does not matter even if they get it in their home country or not. Every one should be treated equally. Everyone is born and created by God and has the right to live. Are you trying to promote discrimination in a country that gives one the right to live there? It will be unfair to treat you as a king or queen and treat migrants like second class citizens. So get it straight that when a right is given, that person should be treated equally, would you like to be treated badly if you migrate to another country and face some second class conditions? Judge for yourself.

"the number of Somalian immigrants has increased by 50 percent"

HAHAHAHA enjoy !

I have been to a couple of "BB" care units the last years and it was not an encouraging sight. It seemed like every other newborn child was second or third generation immigrant. When these children grow up they will be able to vote. We can only pray to god they do not all come together to vote in Sharia laws in Sweden. As the demographic curves look right now they will probably be able to vote through the Sharia laws sometime around 2050. That is if they don't get well integrated and start to spread their votes across the political spectrum. But it doesn't look good on the integration front right now.

Fact: the number one name for a baby boy born in Malmö today is Mohammed. Make of that what you will....

I'M SORRY but ..

look at the immigrants that are coming to Sweden..

Somalians and Irakies both have loads of kids and both are mostly Muslims ..

talk about Culture clash..what chance do they have in Sweden probably not educated and almost impossible to get a job ..How is this going to benefit Sweden in the future let alone themselves..its bad business from the day one..for Sweden that is..the cost to educate intergrate is massive.

Im a immigrant to but in my case I was here to work and after several years i now have a family a house and drive a new car and pay loads of taxes to my mate Reinfelt and yes letting in me was good business for sweden ..

I say stop the culture clash immigration flow ..

can you really count new people moving to sweden(immigrants) as swedish? i think these numbers are off a bit and don't you have to be born swedish and have REAL roots in sweden? i think the swedes moving to the usa has moved down a bit. did the panel take in account of swedes born into multicultural families(one' s swede and the other isn't)?

Low birth rates among "Swedes" and high birth rates among immigrant muslims. As always, nature abhors a vacuum.

21 December 2009

God Jul!

Gott Nytt Ar!

Ja, jag vill leva,

jag vill di i Norden.

That kid in the picture with his dad resemble those characters from Eduard Ritter von Grützner painting.

Can anybody tell me of any proud nations out there that have ... resisted cultural, social and economic dynamics of humanity and done well out of that kind of policy?

Please. Get over yourselves all you who live in fear of your precious traditions being eroded by immigration. The story is meant as a 'feel good' story on babies for Sweden at Christmas time...(birth of certain dude 2009 yrs ago, subtle reference)

Change is inevitable.FACT

Humans are dynamic in genes, geography and in general. FACT FACT FACT.

These facts no one can EVER dispute.

Immigrant bashing in 'The Local' I have come to expect always from the same corners of closet Nazis.

Happily, its the last kicks of a dying donkey so kick away donkeys, Sweden is in transition. The beauty of it all is there is sweet F.A all you haters can do about it.

*NEWSFLASH:

Homogenous populations as Hitler wanted has largely been rejected (ref: World War 1 and 2)

Is this article not about higher fertility/ greater births etc ...ie. MORE SWEDES!!!!!!

Simple me, thought that, it was cause for rejoicing. But it appears some here are not happy with the Swedish 'purity' of innocent babies.

Any of the negative contributors have children? Because if you do, wow!!.. One day you will have a tough time explaining your intolerance to some one. Good luck.

Merry Christmas to fellow christians. Not sure when is Eid?...Eid Mubarak iaf.

Choice and not chance will determine this country's destiny.

I AGREE with you occassional

On 'CHANCE'

-there is none; for the 'good old days'

On 'CHOICE'

-evolve or die. All this complaining that the world/sweden is changing is the most neanderthal thought I have met in this forum.

Headlines " Increase in population growth ", Head picture " Black-Beared dad".

thelionking, phew , there is someone out there who comments on the Local who isnt a bigot!!

thelionking,

What an utterly bizarre comment! You do know that simply putting "FACT" in capital letters over and over again does not make it so?

The whole comment was surreal but especially this gem:

"Homogenous populations as Hitler wanted has largely been rejected (ref: World War 1 and 2)"

Historical anomalies aside, what on earth is this supposed to mean?

There is nothing wrong or evil with homogenous populations and you will find that not one country in Europe has given their Marxist overlords any mandate to completely change the demographics and indeed the very foundation of their countries; you will also find that these Marxist overlords have never dared ask for mandate either.

All polls indicate that people all over Europe are sick and tired of immigration.

The influx is all one way: The peoples of the world are flooding into Europe in such vast numbers as to outbreed the Europeans in their own homelands within decades whilst Europeans are not flooding into any non-western country at all and consequently will have no place of their own.

Common sense dictates that we ask why this traffic is all one way and the implications of allowing it to continue.

Yes, lionking, change is inevitable and is often good. No country should close off its borders and refuse to let outsiders in. However, controlled immigration is the smart choice. Only a foolish man would invite cockroaches into his home and then sit back and admire the change he has wrought.

That, by the way, is an analogy and I am in not seriously comparing people to cockroaches. However, there are some immigrants who, due to their religion convictions, have no respect for the laws, culture and tradition of Sweden. They have no intention of assimilating into Swedish society. Their intention is to impose their own sharia law. If I were a woman, a Jew, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, etc., a lover of democracy or a dog owner.... I would be very, very nervous.

In that case every non-muslim/immigrant Swede should go buy a can of RAID and grow some Viking back-bone for phuck sake. Geesch.

There's a line of dialogue from the 1979 film "A L I E N", when the chief medical science officer complains to Ripley about how well the "guest" has a strong immune to there defense system.

LT. RIPLEY:

"And You let IT in here"

I have this to say to Sweden...

They're like Vampires, once You invite them in... I'm sure You know the rest. lol

You had all better get to crakin' the books on arabic lingo and the islamic / muslim way.

New advertisement for travel agency TV ads...

"Welcome to SWERABIA, The New Way of Life for All-ah You."

Sweden just had to be the humanitarians of the world, Hey! The US is NOT taking these "Insurgents" in. Ask Yourself, WHY?

BTW - Merry CHRISTmas !!! \ ( * > * ) /

Seems to me this article is good news for this article:

"Sweden risks facing severe labour shortages"

Published: 22 Dec 09 15:48 CET

Online: http://www.thelocal.se/24004/20091222/

"Over the next ten years, the number of native-born Swedes of working age will decline by 100,000."

I often tell young folks that if I had life to live over again I'd look real close at moving to Sweden, Canada, etc to raise my children. Because they would be assured of great healthcare, college education and less subject to being called off to some "long war", a long war to provide wealth to war mongers.

Sad reality, when it comes to botany, farming or animal husbandry,

we as humans are so very meticulous in preserving the genotypes for posterity,

( exept Monsanto R I guess ) I am not racist, proof is I love Somali people for example, but I equally adore

the classical notorious Swedish archetype wich at my honest opinion

is threatened, albeit not by malice, just de facto.

this quote from above poster is very true, and one does not have to be a nazzi to agree with it, I' m not, but as a beleiver in reincarnation, I sure would like to be able to be born again in a true Swedish looking body one day, if there' s any left by then:

" The influx is all one way: The peoples of the world are flooding into Europe in such vast numbers as to outbreed the Europeans in their own homelands within decades whilst Europeans are not flooding into any non-western country at all and consequently will have no place of their own.

Common sense dictates that we ask why this traffic is all one way and the implications of allowing it to continue. "

Hi all,

We really do have to look into ourselves, immigration is sure one way because all the ravages and hundreds of years of savage (ops civilized) exploitation of all resources of the so called third world counries, just ask yourself why should a somali ever even think to come to sweden or any other european country?, maybe because the west is direct and non direct responsible of what is happening there? didnt many european leave their home countries to find a better life?, and btw many of them where not exactly goodfellas (new zealand, australia and others are well known to be previous open air prisons to undesired citizens of their own country) what about countries like italy that really did immigration on huge scale, by the millions and still do, exporting good things but also mafia and organized crime still now, funny thing is that italians right now feel superior and have repulsion to immigrants coming to italy (many of them from ex italin colonies) and turning out to be far far more racist than germans , swiss and nordics combined (admitting that those are racist which they are not anymore), we really have to look to the phenomenon on right perspective, we dont ask about chinese immigration because they are invisibile ruled by the chinese mafia where slavery is running as usual, just because we dont see it it doesnt mean it doesnt exist,

About immigrants in sweden, swedes should thank those people because if any one will pay for their pension and welfare it wont be their fellow citizens but 2nd and third generation immigrants, clealry newcomers wont, time is neded for adaptation and so on, people must see the phenomenon in terms of mass and global scale we should think in terms of decades evend hundreds of years its called evolution thats how it works.

Finally we should actually worry about the global warming and pollution (which by the way is produced only by the west and usa and to some degree to china turning the planet to wasteland and dumping waste guess where? well africa of course and other poor countries run by "prowestern" puppets and dictators appointed by civilized world sic.

I just cant understand why all the hatered and complains we all have to "grow" those immigrants because it is how we treat them that we will be payed likewise so instead of isolating them and showing hatered welcome them as fellow humans in need you will feel better and they will be grateful otherwise the results will be banlieu paris on huge scale.

last note whe are talking also about people with over 10000 years of civilization just please tell me what was sweden a few decades ago?, or France some 300 hundreds years ago, and finally USA its an immigration built superpower, think about it if quakers and mormons kept it "clean" from outsiders and non white !

Merry christmas and happy new year all