February 14, 2012
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Sweden's government held crisis talks with union representatives in Stockholm on Monday as the clock ticks down on Saab Automobile's stay of execution.
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I am really tired of seeing all of the comments about SAAB. I have an idea. All of the SAAB employees gather your money and make it employee owned. Would they be willing to put their cash on the line? I don't think so. GM has dumped 6 billion dollars into the SAAB anchor since they took partial ownership. Anyone else willing for the next 6?
However, if the state bought it and ran it until it started to pick up, then more appropriate investors would show interest.
@Global Dispute: why not? It is shown that when stakeholders own their own company, they make an effort to make it profitable. When you own a piece of the action, your attitudes change and you become more conservative and hence more businesslike. Surely, out of the thousands who work in the Trollhättan plant, some of them must have MBAs in Business, Finance and Manufacturing? Someone, surely, can show some initiative?
Anyhow, must dash as I am off for my coffee break.
Merry Xmas
"They are probably figuring that they would rather take the cost associated with shutting down (Saab) so as to not end up with competition in five, ten years,"
Ha ha ha... respected by who after that comment? This guy is living in a complete dream land. The GM exec's are probably ROFL over this comment.
GM has probably 20 to 30 different manufacturers in the same market segments as it's own products to compete with now, one more obscure Swedish brand will not make a difference.
Please keep your comments polite. Matts Carlsson is a leading global analyst and much respected. If anyone in in a "dream land" it may be yourself. I suspect you are an American or America-based? If not, sincere apologies, but you responses to this tragic situation suggest your allegiances sit on the Western side of the Atlantic - and that's where Saab's problems began.
Well said that man!
I am certainly not a yank and only ever been there once, a weekend in NYC... Unlike you, I am in Sweden, I am a Swedish citizen and a Swedish tax payer.
I totally agree that GM is at fault for the current situation. Like Ford with Jaguar and Volvo, instead of engineering for their quality brands and then let the quality filter down to the mass market brands, both American companies did it in reverse and the cars suffered for it. Whilst I like Subaru, the Saabaru just goes to show how off the planet GM was/is.
Like I said, there are 20 to 30 different brands out there that GM has to compete with and one more is not going to be an issue for them. For Matts Carlsson to make a comment like that shows that his judgement on the issue is probably clouded by love of the brand and not based on cold hard reality of the car market place.
BTW: Without GM SAAB would have gone under 20 years ago. I haven't seen much thankfulness to GM's for its 20 year endeavor to save SAAB.
Move on!
While your point is compelling, you come across as a complete tw@twaffle with the whole I'm more Swedish than you comment. Plenty of people, whether or not they have touched Swedish soil, have a vested interest in seeing SAAB remain in production and a viable product in a floundering market.
To quote Milkface, "Suck it."
Your comment: 'Without GM SAAB would have gone under 20 years ago. I haven't seen much thankfulness to GM's for its 20 year endeavour to save SAAB.'
That is the most stupid comment I have seen for a while. GM 'won' the last race to own Saab since then they starved it nearly to death while at the same time raping its technological competencies. Now because GM have ballsed up their global strategy they are looking to offload Saab in the most idiotic manner.
So to answer your comment: I can see why Saab is not 'thankful' as it is hard to imagine a less competent, sympathetic and desirable owner than GM. Had GM not bought Saab 20 years ago I am sure Saab could have found a much better owner and would be in much better shape.