Published: 1 Jan 10 09:50 CET | Print version
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The early hours of 2010 were marked by fights, drunkenness, and fires in many parts of Sweden, as a well as traffic accidents and stray rockets.
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@StockholmSam: Seven-year-olds? What about those who are legally old enough to buy fireworks, but can not act responsible? I think they are a much greater problem.
i think the locals headline is pretty accurate. new year night is the one night when the law and basic rules of civilization don't seem to apply
I feel Swedish people are lucky, even if the Swedish author Henning Mankell feels your society is becoming more aggressive.
However, I do notice that many Swedes I meet are very formal and worried about the impression they make to strangers. Suggest you loosen up a bit.
LOL!!!! I would be in the hospital if I pointed out to my wife that I could see another womans butt and crotch.
Predictable and lamentable.
Nah, it's not Systembolaget that cause the binge drinking. We've done that since at least 950AD or so.
In fact one of the reasons for Systembolaget is that in the early 19th century the consumption of alcohol rose to such alarming proportions (from about 5 liters 50% aquavit (or equivalent) per person and year to *40 liters* per person and year) in the 1820s.
A significant part of the nation was literally and without exaggerating drinking itself to death. In no small part because sometimes workers were paid in aquavit.
Hence the strong reaction of people who didn't drink or drank moderately; what became the Temperance movement.
Anyway, yes, the booze is a major reason for the large number of events like fireworks injuries, rapes, assaults and similar, but it's not the fault of Systembolaget.
Thanks for information.
P.s. I am an international (middle-eastern) student, in Gothenburg, and even now after four months of living in Sweden, I have difficulties understanding the Swedes' behavior and attitude. I wish there were more books and/or information on this subject.
People, in general, do not seem to be that warm-hearted, and welcoming. Maybe it is me, or my hair colour.
I enjoyed wine and whisky and and ate well and enuff so not even a sign of a hangover.
We even had fireworks around about but not 'till överdrift' there either.
Even my daughter, who celebrated in Stockholm, said things were calm.
Just depends on the company one keeps.
Wishing the editorial staff and all readers of The Local a prosperous and healthy 2010.
This is all thanks to the intoxinating effects of to much alcohol. Dont get me wrong, I like a glass of wine as well, but have the common sense to stop when I feel I start getting intoxinated. We all know our limits but to many of us chose to ignore the signals as the goal is to get drunk, full stop.
With regards to rape, women are getting raped everywhere. Its just that in Sweden if a woman reports being raped she might be taken serious, whilst in many other countries she will be treated as if she asked for it. Dresscodes have gone out the window in every western european country. Most UK women dress like slags when they are out on the town, the more flesh the better.
And as far as sex against your will is concerned, I can only suggest to all dumb women everywhere to make sure they dont get to drunk so they know what they are doing and stop teasing guys just because they think they can because they are drunk!!
We are all responsible for our own actions so we all have to take responsibility for getting in to situations that can get out of hand. Blaming to be drunk is no excuse whatsoever. Not for rape, nor for getting raped (if that was the case).
It is commonly known that most rapes occur by people the victim know, seldom by a complete stranger hiding in the bushes.
So stop drinking like a lulu, stop teasing guys or suggesting something you do not want to anticipate in and use your common sense. And put some clothes on for Pete's sake. At least a pair of knickers in the cold is highly recommended. Wearing a short skirt with a string underneath at 0 dgr temperatures only shows that as a woman you are showing low intelligence. (And the guys know this, if you have virtually no clothes on then there is not much of a barriere, is there?).
@amirhosein, Swedes don't express themselves like any other group of people you will ever meet. They need the booze in order to practise their communication eloquence. They lack the ability to say thank you, answer to simple and basic human greetings like good morning, they step on you and pretend not to notice and the list runs long.
@moaca, are you suggesting it is the woman fault if she gets rape because of her way of dressing?
Anything stronger than coffee and cream cakes and they fall out of their trees......LOL.
1) Rape is NEVER about what a girl/woman is wearing, it is about violence pure and simple. It happens to men, children, woman of all ages (babies have been raped, woman over 80 have been raped, woman wearing Burka's have been raped etc.) and people dressed in all different states. It is against the law and is therefore illegal regardless of the reason the perpetrators give for their actions. In the same way that even if you left your home un-locked, no one can come in and take your things without being charged with stealing; you cannot claim rape is somehow the victim's fault in any case. Here's a link to help you with the most common myths about rape http://www.womanabuseprevention.com/html/sexual_assault.html
2) Rape has been used to terrorize and control woman for… well…forever (Vikings did it) and is often used by groups in situations of war and other conflicts to instill fear or control how a person acts, what they wear, where they can walk etc..
3) Yes rapes happen everywhere, but the reports I've been reading are truly shocking. A woman is raped in a restaurant? How? Where? Where were the other customers? A young woman (16) is gang raped repeatedly in a washroom in a pub? I'd like to know more details to understand how this is possible. Are there particular areas where this is happening?
4) The sentencing or lack thereof i.e a man removes the clothing of a minor (lifts her skirt) takes photographs of her genitals and isn't even charged? Surely you can't blame that on immigrants? In Canada he would have been charged with producing child pornography AND anyone viewing the photos would also have been charged. It is nobody's business if she was wearing underwear or not. She had a skirt on; we are all naked under our clothes.
5) Apparently only 10% of rapist are caught in Sweden and the incident is 4 times higher then any other European country and when they are caught the sentencing seems extremely lenient towards the perpetrator.
On a philosophical note I wonder how bad it needs to get before the people of Sweden begin to take action? On a personal note I can't help but wonder if this is a safe country for a single female to visit? I mean, if you can be raped in a restaurant I guess anything is possible? Also I'm wondering if pepper spray is legal in Sweden? We have a really potent variety we use for bears, sounds like it could be useful over there.
As a resident of Sweden for a couple of years, I saw first hand how the Swedish people take pride in having a clean, safe country.
I grew up in small town USA where everyone says "hi". When I moved to Sweden, Swedes thought I was a crazy when I said hej. Later, I learned, (from Swedish people) that Swedes are more reserved at first, but once you get to know them they are your friends for life. Sweden is my adopted home country. Don't let a few people paint Sweden with broad brush strokes.
"Swedes don't express themselves like any other group of people you will ever meet. They need the booze in order to practise their communication eloquence. They lack the ability to say thank you, answer to simple and basic human greetings like good morning, they step on you and pretend not to notice and the list runs long."
Whereas I can find individual Swedes, that I have met in my 30 years here, that fit your stereotype, you can not say that your stereotype applies to ALL Swedes. I have met such people in my native UK and in the 85 countries that I lived, in or visited around the world.
I have also met Swedes and others who are articulate when sober, friendly, warm and open (I have been married to one such Swede for 29 years)
Rape is a terrible but it is important to remember that an accusation does not always equal a crime and there is an increasing trend of younger women crying rape incorrectly. Bearing this in mind the figures are skewed.
I would say Sweden is pretty safe for a single female to visit - most Swedish men are breast-feeding sissies so you should not need the pepper spray.
Couldn't they have reported on something more uplifting such as the number of New Year's day babies that were born around the country?
Rick methven: "Whereas I can find individual Swedes, that I have met in my 30 years here, that fit your stereotype, you can not say that your stereotype applies to ALL Swedes. I have met such people in my native UK and in the 85 countries that I lived, in or visited around the world."
"I have also met Swedes and others who are articulate when sober, friendly, warm and open (I have been married to one such Swede for 29 years)"
Rick Methven, do you realize what you´re doing here? You are trying to deprive peropco of the one scapegoat that he has on which he can vent his own personal frustrations - and blame his own failings as a human being - on.
Please, this is a new year: we must be kind to the less fortunate such as him.
The mind boggles at the thought of how miserable his own personal life must be for him to indulge in such constant need to express hatred. He needs a hobby.
@Kaethar: You're right, I'm in a culture shock. What's even worse, is that, people in Greece were rather opposite. Though, I was shocked there, too, watching their open manners in night clubs.
I'm starting to wonder if animals, in general, ignore the presence of others of their species. After all, I think we're merely more than verbal social animals.
@Rick Methven: Glad to hear that people "who are articulate when sober, friendly, warm and open" live in our neighborhood. Would you pinpoint where I might get the chance to meet them?
@Mox Mox The Manburner: That is very kind of you. NOT.
from your photo, you seem to be about 40 years younger than me and do not live in "my neighbourhood", so I can not really advise you. My 25 year old son has such Friends in "your neighbourhood"
There are all types in all places just open your eyes and you can find them
I was mearly pointing out the section of rape occurring when being on a party somewhere or out on the town being skimpy dressed. YES, as a woman you should be able to dress as you please, but we all know that when women have to much to drink they do get over confident and this can easily lead to trouble.
This was my only point with regards to dressing to go out in combination with to much alcohol. And I still think that not more people are getting raped in Sweden, they are just being taken more serious then in other countries.
In countries where you have to wear a burka or other face covering things, as a woman you are often nothing more then the property of the man you have married. They dont stand a chance, now do they? There are no rights for women there, just look at how women are being treated in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Irak, Iran, and frankly the majority of third world countries. I am a Swedish woman living and working in the UK.
With my line of work i regularly put men back in line as they think they can take liberties. Most men do not expect a female being able to either defend herself or stand up for herself. And no, I am not a lesbian or anything. Just a middle aged woman who finally has realised her own values and is no longer afraid to stand up for herself. I only feel priviliged to be in a position where I am in charge of my own life now. God knows that most women are not and I really feel for them.
We have a long way to go as a human race before both men and women realise we are no more and no less then each other. Once this is accepted the world will be a much better place. Equality rules!
I do agree that some jobs are not suitable for women if they are physically demanding. Men have more muscle tissue then us and are on average strong. We are betting in multitasking. The male and female are designed to complete each other, not to dominate the other one. One day the whole world will realise this. Respect!