February 13, 2012
Published: 18 Jan 10 17:47 CET | Double click on a word to get a translation
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/24452/20100118/
A slogan chosen by the city of Stockholm to promote events related to the June 2010 wedding of Crown Princess Victoria has been reported to the Ombudsmen of Justice (Justitieombudsmännen – JO) for violating Sweden’s language laws.
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fin
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Fin means anyhting from sweet to proper. When someone says, Du är så fin it's quite a compliment.
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I agree Swedish should be used in Sweden, these laws need to be respected or Arabic will be the official language soon.
So Karlek2010 it is! Most US tourists would rather have their T-Shirt in Swedish anyway, so the neighbors don't think they were in California for the week.
When you say, 'or Arabic will be the official language soon.', are you trying to be sarcastic or you have some undiagnosed condition that needs immediate attention?
what a joke - of course scientific papers are written in English it is the language of science and for that matter most scientific papers are written for an international market not just sweden. Is this another example of SWedes being insular? A swede who reads scieitific papers will also read English - in fact there are not many who do not read English here in Sweden as it is compulsory to learn it in schools from year 2. Is this guy now going to advocate that Swedes don't learn English.
I agree it is important to preserve languages but there are ways and means of doing this. If you take this law to its conclusionthen everyone of us who speaks or even read English in Sweden is breaking the law
“Already a lot of scientific papers from Sweden are written in English, leaving them inaccessible to Swedes who don’t read English,” he said.
“Who knows where it where it will end?” (love the editors at the local.se...)
Swedish as a language must be preserved and I don't see any risk in it becoming a dead language but you have to be practical. Cutting off your nose to spite your face is not the best practice. Sure you can label the Crown Princess' wedding with a Swedish Language Label that is unintelligible to the rest of the world and allow the event to descend into obscurity, but is that the desire?
Not for nothin' my Swedish wife just commented that "Love Stockholm 2010" sounded like a Gay Parade thing to her...
Personally, I can't wait until I am fluent in Swedish, Christ almighty it is taking me a long time to learn this language, I thought I would have additionally mastered Danish and been halfway through Finnish by now...
Surely the "slogan" should be in multiple languages!?
Sure great preserve the lanuage., but do so when and where appropraite! Idiots
Really? Why would that be worse?
...the Swedish word "fartlek" made it into the English language at some point, why not use the Royal wedding to introduce the Swedish word "kärlek"?!!
Definitely a big fail for promoting a "Royal" wedding..
I also have to agree with dizzymoe33, though. Once you get here, you want to take home things that say something in Swedish. It just looks a little more interesting than having everything in the same old English.
"Already a lot of scientific papers from Sweden are written in English, leaving them inaccessible to Swedes who don't read English," he said
This is just hilarious! Be careful, this guy will soon report "The Local" to the Ombudsman, since it writes in English about Sweden!
The first time I read 'Love 2010 Stockholm', the television show of my youth ' Love American Style ' popped into my head. Which is a very bad thing if one is trying to go for a positive spin of the event to Americans.
Even now I am trying to get the damn theme music out of my head - very catchy and very disturbing ....
But wait, Swedish-speaking Swedes must be an endangered species, which is why language laws have been passed, and why now people with too much time on their hands now have one more reason to clog up the system, filing complaints. What to do next, to preserve the Swedish language? Oh, I know, maybe we can throw teenagers in jail for using English words and weird spelling when texting. Because, you know, twelve odd years of Swedish schools, reading Swedish books and newspapers, visiting Swedish blog sites, heck, just speaking Swedish all day with your colleagues and friends, that's not NEARLY enough to preserve the Swedish language. No, Karlek 2010 is the last line of defence. Our Maginot Line ('linje') if you will. And probably just about as effective...
And finally, when saying 2010, will swedes say tvåtusentio, twenty ten, two thousand and ten, or something else?
Talk about people getting themselves all worked up about language! Relax.
I think it is very inappropriate that English is being used in the title of such an important occasion, infact, it ought to be and must be a proper swedish title like Kärlek i Stockholm 2010
And yes, English is being used too much in certain areas of sweden but I think its ok to write scientific papers in English otherwise they can't be read/used outside of Sweden.
More insidious than the advance of English in Sweden (which is anyway very debatable) is the rise of the 'The Language Defence Network'. It's a mark of a living language that it grows and changes. One of the ways living languages grow is by borrowing words from other languages. English is a prime example, having borrowed words from most of the world's other languages over time. In fact around 5% of the 40,000 most common English words are of Scandinavian origin.
Is 'The Language Defence Network' aware that around 40% of the most common Swedish words are borrowed from German? Probably not. Once a word has been borrowed and used for a generation or so its origin is no longer obvious. I've read stupid arguments this winter wailing about 'sale' replacing 'rea' - as if 'rea' was a Swedish word preserved from Viking ancestors. In fact it's an abbreviation of 'realisation' which was borrowed from French early in the 20th century.
And here's another thought, while I've got steam up: There are around 9 million Swedish speakers in the world today. That's more people than have ever spoken Swedish at any one time in human history. To be sure, they may not all speak a form of Swedish 'The Language Defence Network' would approve of, but that's because 'The Language Defence Network' aren't really interested in preserving Swedish as a living language, they want the language as pickled as a baltic herring. They should beware - they might end up with surströmming.
It would take measures such as a 1 or 2 week Swedish-only summer camp every year for everyone between 5 and 25 years old. With harsh measures in place (right up to loss of citizenship) for anyone who doesn't comply with the spirit (if not the letter).
However, such a campaign might be popular. Nothing to stop people doing their 2 weeks at a Swedish only archaeology dig in Greece or a Swedish-only hotel in Thailand!
By the way, the tv show Love American Style RULED back in the 70's!
God Bless Noble Prize Winner King Obama!!
on the other hand, Swedes would love for the world to know that something this big is happening. So, from a purely publicity standpoint of view, it makes perfect sense to have the slogan in english because it reaches out to a bigger audience worldwide.
Ultimately, it would be smart to use Swedish as the main language in this Ad. with an English translation beneath.
As for Mr. Öhlsons complain about scientific papers being published in English, i have one comment: Why not press for a new legislation that will force all academic papers written in Sweden to be published exclusively in Swedish, preventing any translations! I think thats a safe way to contain all the knowledge in Sweden and prevent anything from going out. Oh and this law should prevent Swedes from reading any scientific papers published in any other language other than Swedish! Are you happy now??? I can't imagine any educated person would make such a comment.
As for using "Love" instead of "Älska", I went to see Sonja Alden and at the end she said "I love you", I asked my friend why didn't say "Jag älskar ni"? Älska in Swedish is more personal than its English equivialent.
I'm currently studying German at Uni and there are two girls one's French, one's Finnish but their English and German are fantastic and it's a shame that foreign language learning is of a lower importance in the UK than on the continent. My native language is English but I admire that generally non native English language speakers speak more than 1 language.
OK, English is an international language and reports or songs been written/sung in English so they can be exported to other countries but when people are in the UK I expect them to speak English but when I'm in Germany for example I speak German. I do speak a bit of Swedish aswell and I'm a big fan and got a lot of respect from the country. However my friend's opinion of the Swedish Royal Family is a lot less than how the British Royal Famiy are respected.
""Already a lot of scientific papers from Sweden are written in English, leaving them inaccessible to Swedes who don't read English," he said.
"Who knows where it will end?""
Do you really think that academics are doing going edge research for the benefit of some uneducated hick out in the back regions of Jamtland?
Every Swede who could ever want to read an academic paper knows English, and its not even for them that they are written, its the scientific community of the world.
I agree with some of the other comments that the logo it tacky and sounds like it is promoting a Gay Pride Parade, not a Royal Wedding.
I say, get a new logo in Swedish, I love the language it is so beautiful!
Why dont you remove those unswedish words from Swedish? You can see the whole language disappear.