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Holocaust survivor can keep pension: court

Published: 21 Jan 10 14:55 CET | Double click on a word to get a translation
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/24516/20100121/

A Holocaust survivor living in Gothenburg in western Sweden will not have her Swedish pension cut because of compensation payments she receives from the German state, a Swedish court has ruled.

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Miriam Landau, who moved to Sweden in the 1950s, has long received payments from the German state to compensate her for the time she spent living in a ghetto and concentration camp during World War II.

In the eyes of the Swedish Social Insurance Agency (Försäkringskassan), however, the Holocaust restitution payments were the equivalent of pension payments.

The agency argued that the payments Landau received for the time she spent working in the Nazi camp didn’t amount to war reparations, but rather were based on work performed in a job taken voluntarily.

As a result, the agency ordered Landau to pay back 42,942 kronor ($6,000) in Swedish pension payments.

Landau filed a suit to have the decision overturned, but an initial hearing with the Gothenburg administrative court of appeal (Kammarrätten) in November 2007 resulted in a ruling which supported the agency’s position.

But in a judgment handed down on Wednesday, Sweden’s Supreme Administrative Court (Regeringsrätten) found in favour of Landau, ruling that she had the right to keep the full amount of her Swedish pension.

In its ruling the court said that its assessment of Landau’s case was based largely on a September 2009 statement from the German social insurance agency which highlighted the “special legal character” of the Holocaust indemnity payments and stated that the payments “should not be considered as payments made through the social insurance system”.

The court rejected, however, Landau’s request that she be paid interest on the lost pension income, stating there was “no legal basis” by which interest could be paid.

Landau, who was born in Hungary in 1924, was diagnosed with double lung tuberculosis in 1945 following time in the ghetto and concentration camp.

As a result, she has been unable to work since moving to Sweden.

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15:57 January 21, 2010 by calebian22

"The agency argued that the payments Landau received for the time she spent working in the Nazi camp didn't amount to war reparations, but rather were based on work performed in a job taken voluntarily."

That is sick. Shame on Försäkringskassan for even taking that stance to begin with.

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16:45 January 21, 2010 by apostolos1975

What they do is ABSOLUTELY acceptable. They are simply protecting the tax payers money. Money don't grow on trees you know.

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17:46 January 21, 2010 by orre

Försäkringskassan are horrible! This would never happened if the left wing block would have run Sweden!

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17:48 January 21, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford

OH, I see that calebian22 is back if anything regarding the Jews, The Holocaust, and the theft of the Auschwitz sign is not immediately solved the way Jews want without question.

And if you do question it - as I did on a discussion thread, asking for the rule of law to run its course - you run the risk of being called an anti-semite if you persist - what I experienced when I called for the same in the theft.

I am happy about the result with the pension for Miriam Landau. In fact, I shall be writing about her when I finish the story about what really happened to the sign if the Poles really get on with it. They had finally issued a warrant for Anders Högstrom arrest - what can only go forward if the Swedes find that there is a case for him to answer.

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17:52 January 21, 2010 by Tennin

Wow her work in the nazi camp was a job taken voluntarily huh? Seems like they are saying that the Nazi's didn't force the Jewish people into concentration camps, but that the Jewish people signed up for the great job and benefits the Nazis gave them.

The government agencies are sick to even fight and argue their twisted points. These people should be ashamed of themselves.

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18:12 January 21, 2010 by Kaethar

@Tennin: How do you know? Were you there? Ever hear of something called circumstance? Each case should be investigated individually. It's up the courts to decide how our tax money is used. Obviously since she's never worked in Sweden she's cost a lot of money to a system she contributed nothing to. I am glad they tried her case even though some nutters were crying anti-semetism at the get-go.

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18:47 January 21, 2010 by franny66

sick swedes showing their true colours again

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18:50 January 21, 2010 by Great Scott

Shame on the Swedish Social Insurance Agency, and I find apostolos1975 nothing short of disgusting, maybe you work for the Swedish Social Insurance Agency.

I suppose it would have been better if Miriam Landau had not survived the Holocaust, would that make you feel better.

I would like to say to you apostolos1975 when you need help, I hope the tax payers turn their backs, then walk away and laugh, you make me sick.

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20:17 January 21, 2010 by franny66

@Great Scott

I agree with you fully...many swedes would only be to happy if she had died at the hands of the Nazis..one even mentioned how much money she cost the swedish system so far. You should see another article on what the swedes tried to start on facebook about Haiti...The swedes are dogs and their economy is going to the the dumps and Iam happy for them...It would be great if they left the EU or where thrown out or joined Russia even...LOL

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20:54 January 21, 2010 by Kaethar

@franny66: She came here as a refugee, didn't contribute to the system, and cost us lots of money. It is the German state who should have given her money, not the Swedish one. If you don't see this you are a complete fool.

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21:36 January 21, 2010 by calebian22

Trowbridge,

I thought you were leaving the Local because you got your feeeewings hurt when you were correctly called a jew hater. And yes, I will always stand up for the Jews.

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#12

21:38 January 21, 2010 by Bender B Rodriquez

@orre: The initial decision by FK was taken during the previous government... The current ruling is the result of years of legal proceedings...

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22:14 January 21, 2010 by Buccaneer

@Kaethar

"She came here as a refugee, didn't contribute to the system, and cost us lots of money. It is the German state who should have given her money, not the Swedish one. If you don't see this you are a complete fool".

Calling you a fool would be an understatement because you are worse than a fool.

I hope you know that Sweden and the Nazis are one and the same?

They see themselves as one, they worked hand in hand during WW11.

However, the Nazis and present day Germany took the heat for the evil committed during the war, but Sweden played a major role and ended making alot of money from the distruction of lives. Need I remind you that even Norway still hates you for the role you played in transporting the Nazis to their shores to attack them.

So for Försäkringskassan to now argue that the payments Landau received for the time she spent working in the Nazi camp didn't amount to war reparations, but rather were based on work performed in a job taken voluntarily is beyond extreme.

You guys are out of your minds to think that such an arguement is not shameful. one would think that the history of WW11 and the role Sweden played would have made you behave yourself in this case, but you have proved that you still have the same ideas from WW11.

For the record, I am not jewish, never had a jewish friend or been anywhere near Isreal. However, I am human with feelings for others and I am ashamed to be associated with Sweden in this regard.

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#14

22:26 January 21, 2010 by Nemesis

Anyone even suggesting she should not have herpension should be declared a criminal.

She deserves her pension.

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#15

23:12 January 21, 2010 by jose_s

Good to see that the swedish tax agency is caught up on their important cases.... Who's next, retired adults with down syndrome that were adopted as babies by foreign born swedish parents?

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23:42 January 21, 2010 by Jimmy

I propose we set up an identical type of camp. Then put these people who regarded her work as voluntary, at the front gate and ask them " Would you like to volunteer for some work"

Latent Nazi's

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#17

02:48 January 22, 2010 by franny66

I glad too see many people rally in here to back up humanity, can you imagine Jeremy Paxman or Pat Kenny debating such a such a topic on UK or Irish TV...what a country Iam in cant wait to leave thank god I have no kids here...such hate and evil and they have balls to debate with you as well..please everyone treat them bad abroad...

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#18

07:41 January 22, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford

And that's your and fellow Zionists' problem , calenbian22, always standing up for Jews, even when they are dreadful in the wrong, like Meir Dagan's killing machine, the Mossad, which has wiped out hundreds of innocent people for criminal purposes.

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#19

08:45 January 22, 2010 by Uncle

Ford - what is amazing is that people like you take a pride in

1. Bashing Israel whenever a word Jew has been said

2. NOT saying a word about any of the muslim countries whenever a word msulim has been said

3. Not realizing that ALL of the conflicts in the past 30 years took more lives than that in Israel (most of them involving muslims) and not giving a ... about it.

4. Starting BABBLING about the horrible horrible Israel whenever an old jewish lady got reparations for sitting in a Nazi camp.

5. Being an overall idiot, whose place is on the plane to your buddies in Sudan or Pakistan, who will surely treat you well and provide you with 4 wifes, 5 camels and a membership in the local Islamic Jihad cell.

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#20

09:22 January 22, 2010 by Kaethar

@Buccaneer: You done? She worked in a camp the German government had set up. If this work was forced/harmed her/whatever it should be the German government who pays for her, not the Swedish one. You can rant on all you want how I'm a nazi and everyone hates Swedes, etc, but a lot of people know this is the truth.

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#21

09:41 January 22, 2010 by sruk

...my father kept lying to me for 65 years that he was in concentration camp, he was bloody voluntary Auschwitz worker..i am ashamed..

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#22

09:46 January 22, 2010 by Jimmy

My ex father claimed agerman pension at the same time claiming a swedish one. The thing he did was leave the money in germany and then transferred in the UK when they thought the Germans were getting to chummy withe the swedish gov't.

And he didn't go to any camp just worked their as he was a german.

All the money sweden made from selling materials to the nazi's at least some should be repaid in some way.

The sooner I get my son and we can then leave this latent nazi state, the better. Good memories but swedes live in total denial Perhaps the reason it was neutral in the war was because even the nazi's didn't want this place. Something to be proud of

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#23

09:55 January 22, 2010 by Trowbridge H. Ford

Just more zionist babbling about me, Uncle, starting with the claim I have never written anything critical of Muslims.

Suggest you look at my articles, "The Prelude: US Intelligence - 11 September 2001," Eye Spy magazine, Issue Eight, pp. 26-33, and "O'Neill: A Voice in the Wilderness?," Eye Spy magazine, Issue Thirteen, pp. 22-3" where I discussed many Muslim attacks and threats, and the US government's pathetic response to them.

And I never said anything critical about Miriam Landau, only arguing for justice to take its course rather than engaging in Zionist rhetoric or Jew bashing.

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#24

09:57 January 22, 2010 by Streja

As a Swede I am happy to see that this lady got her rights finally.

Kaethar, she got money from Germany and the Försäkringskassan wanted to take it away.

Don't worry. 95 % of Swedes actually think Försäkringskassan were wrong regarding this case, and actually wonder if they used their brains and hearts when dealing with it.

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#25

12:16 January 22, 2010 by Examiner

Did she contribute anything to the Swedish economy? OK let's try this:

Germany hounds Jews into concentration camps. They slave for the Nazis. The Nazis use the proceeds from the forced labour to do business with 'neutral' pro-Nazi Sweden. So Sweden prospers while the rest of the world is busy fighting the Nazi menace.

Did she contribute to the Swedish economy? I think even cretins like Kaethar can now answer that.

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#26

12:53 January 22, 2010 by Uncle

Ford - WHAT JUSTICE for God's sake??? Whenever you hear about a reparations for an accident victim, do you usually engage into claims that this bastard's (the accident victim) relative was a criminal, because your neighbour's aunt's friend told you so? No? So why do it towards Jews???

If this story would happen not in 2010, but in 1947, would you then use the Jesus argument? "Oh, mrs. Landau got some money? Surely her ancestors would be happy while sentencing Christ our saviour to the cross eh?"

Your arguments are totally unrelated to the topic (as usually with the bashers of Israel, who are just feeling uncomfy with anything good related to Jews).

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#27

14:03 January 22, 2010 by Streja

The rest of the world didn't fight the Nazis as you are all aware of.

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14:16 January 22, 2010 by calebian22

Trowbridge,

Eye Spy- written and read by paranoid nuts living in their parent's basements. Oh no! Ma, where is my tin foil hat?! You're a bigoted nutter.

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#29

14:46 January 22, 2010 by Rick Methven

This is NOT about Jews, Israel or Sweden's 'supposed' Nazi history.

It is about one 86 year old lady who has finally got what she deserves a state pension from the country that she has lived in for 50+ years and the reparation payments from the German government.

Even if she has been unable to work, (because of deteriorated health caused by "voluntary" labour) she has paid rent and MOMS on everything she has bought of the years.

I expect that her contribution to the Swedish economy over the years is greater than the pension she will get and more than the wingers posting here who think she should get nothing

Now that the court has made its ruling, the idiot in FK who thought that people actually volunteered to work in a concentration camp should be

A: fired

B: sent to do some voluntary work in Siberia

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#30

14:59 January 22, 2010 by Uncle

Well said Rick

I do not understand the entire "contribution to the economy" though. This country spends millions on refugees, which only contribution to the economy (historical and future) is reduction of its development.

Sweden paid millions to the Haiti victims which are not even Swedes. Sweden IS trying to help all the people that never have and never will contribute to the economy of Sweden, just because this country believes in helping those who suffer due to someone else or nature will.

What the hell is this argument of "economical contribution" when those german concentration camp swedish survivors, whom you can count on one hand, are getting some pension, which will probably be invested into their own gravestone?

Just embarassing.

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20:35 January 22, 2010 by dsc

@ Uncle #30

"Sweden paid millions to the Haiti victims which are not even Swedes. Sweden IS trying to help all the people that never have and never will contribute to the economy of Sweden, just because this country believes in helping those who suffer due to someone else or nature will."

You almost sound like you are complaining about Sweden helping Haiti, dude. That's cold. All time low. Hitler re-born.

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#32

04:02 January 23, 2010 by Kaethar

@Streja: I'm not talking about the money she got from Germany. She shouldn't have had that taken away since it was earned through forced labour. What I'm talking about is the money spent on her by the Swedish state when she was not our responsibility. She was not a citizen.

@Examiner: No, she never contributed to the Swedish economy. Next you'll argue all Iraqi refugees in Sweden are already contributing to the Swedish economy since Sweden sells weapons to the US that they use in Iraq. I think not.

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#33

09:25 January 23, 2010 by Rick Methven

To all you people who think that she does not deserve any payment from the Swedish state YOU ARE WRONG

She moved to Sweden WITH HER HUSBAND and HE worked and paid taxes. She now gets a widows pension of 6,000 Kr a month after the death of her husband.

She got a one-off payment of 80,00 kr under the German ZRBG law of 2002 compensating concentration camp survivors.

http://www.thelocal.se/18114/20090310/

I hope that all you dumbkopfs that are against a persons right to live find yourselves in a situation where you have to live on a basic widow/widowers pension

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#34

09:42 January 23, 2010 by Buccaneer

@Kaethar

"She worked in a camp the German government had set up. If this work was forced/harmed her/whatever it should be the German government who pays for her, not the Swedish one. You can rant on all you want how I'm a nazi and everyone hates Swedes, etc, but a lot of people know this is the truth".

Like I said before, trying to debate you is like trying to explain to a child that santa claus is a fiction character. From your line of reasoning, one can reach the conclusion that you must be a 7 year old child.

To the adults in this debate, there is nothing to debate here when you start on the premise that "Voluntary" work was done by the jews in the Holocaust camp.

Sweden should try to stay clear of issues that prompt debates around the Holocaust, and WW11, because it is a reminder of how cold the Swedes were to Humanity not to talk of how they were cold to their neighbours.

Having to talk about the Holocaust and Sweden on two occasion within the same month is just too much. Firstly, the Swedish connection to steal the sign in the Holocaust camp and now Försäkringskassan saying that "voluntary" work was done by the old lady is just too much. Come to think of it, it looks like a new approach to revisionism.

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#35

10:51 January 23, 2010 by Rick Methven

@Buccanneer

"Sweden should try to stay clear of issues that prompt debates around the Holocaust, and WW11, because it is a reminder of how cold the Swedes were to Humanity not to talk of how they were cold to their neighbours"

Read my posts above and you will see that I have decried the FK concept of 'voluntary' labour

BUT I also will not accept crazy postings from Zionist maniacs who start the Usual

Swedes are anti Semitic Holocaust Deniers etc......

You should grow up and stop listening to the Zionist propaganda who perpetuate the anti-Semitic line to take the attention from their own pernicious actions.

I suppose I am yet again going to be labelled a Nazi Jew hater LOL

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#36

11:16 January 23, 2010 by dsc

@Rick Methven

Its not a label, dude. Its an accurate description of the rot that you are.

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#37

11:40 January 23, 2010 by Rick Methven

@dsc

Go stick your head up your backside. The smell thats there is the same as come out of your mouth

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#38

16:46 January 23, 2010 by dsc

@Rick Methven

If you can even just make 10 posts without anybody noticing that your ideas are anti-semitic, then you would have rid yourself of the Nazi demon that has possessed you and continues to make mash of that little thing that is between your ears.

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#39

17:57 January 23, 2010 by Rick Methven

@dsc

I have made nearly 1000 posts on the local since I joined 4 years before you learned to read and joined the Local

Rather than point out 10 of my posts that where not anti Semitic can you point out ONE that was?

I never have and never will post anything that is anti Semitic. My previous post on this thread have decried the whole mess of Försäkringskassan and the blatant ignorance of that organisation. How is that being anti Semitic.

What I did, and plead guilty to, is also decrying the usual attempt by Zionists to turn anything they can into anti-Semitism.

I am not Anti Semitic but, like hundreds of thousands of Jews in Israel, the USA, Europe and elsewhere, I am anti Zionism, Zionism is the cause of too much terror and death. Zionism is as evil a form on nationalism - my country right or wrong as was the National Socialists of Germany.

The problem is that the moment a moderate Jew or Goy sees through the Zionists such as your self who want to perpetuate and extend the "we are being persecuted" ideology, the Zionist shout Anti Semitic. It is Forbidden by State decree to even think that the state of Israel is ever in the wrong..

Herzl, the founder of the Jewish state actually said that it was the job of Zionists to protect and strengthen the Jewish State by playing the Anti Semitic card at every chance.

Look at this link and see what Zionism is all about Not from the pens of Muslims or Christians but from JEWS, they like me are not anti Semitic ( how can they be?) but they are Anti Zionist.

http://www.realnews247.com/spec_rpt_jews_against_zionism.htm

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19:21 January 23, 2010 by Uncle

You almost sound like you are complaining about Sweden helping Haiti, dude. That's cold. All time low. Hitler re-born.

dsc

Are you on medication, or just plainly illiterate?

Let me spell it out to assist. Sweden helps people who will never and have never contributed to the economy of Sweden, but just out of will to help out. and THAT IS GOOD.

Therefore any "economical contribution" of an individual, who really deserves to get a pension is irrelevant. Even if she contributed NOTHING because she was handicapped, she should have received the money anyways....

Have you reached an emotional equilibrium now or is it still tough to understand the written above?

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#41

01:49 January 24, 2010 by dsc

@Rick Methven

Old man, anti-Semitism is the same as anti-Zionism. The latter is just an invented euphemism used by your types to dupe the simple-minded. That is why the lie that "Zionism is a form of racism" was revoked and expunged from the UN resolutions in 1991 with 201 countries supporting the repeal and only 26 misguided nations opposing.

@Uncle

Now, if your initial post had those words in capitals no one would had thought there was a HINT of a complaint. Choose your words carefully next time.

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#42

06:38 January 24, 2010 by Buccaneer

@Rick Methven

I stand by my comment that Sweden should try to stay clear of issues that prompt debates around the Holocaust, and WW11, because it is a reminder of how cold the Swedes were to Humanity then not to talk of how they were cold to their neighbours"

I think you are either uniformed or you are are a revisionist. Do your homework, Sweden provided services and logistics to the nazi machine to help them achieve their goals. one of such services was transporting them to the shores of Norway when they attacked that country. Sweden provided these aid to the nazi machine and made a lot of money from this while other sane nations were fighting the lunatic nazis.

Save your zionist rant for others who may think like you. I am NO Jew and I do not know any Jews.

I do not post this comments because I dislike Sweden, that is far from the truth. I have a soft spot for Sweden, however, I will speak out where ever I see injustice.

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#43

08:14 January 24, 2010 by Rick Methven

@buccaneer

"I think you are either uniformed or you are are a revisionist. Do your homework, Sweden provided services and logistics to the nazi machine to help them achieve their goals. one of such services was transporting them to the shores of Norway when they attacked that country. Sweden provided these aid to the nazi machine and made a lot of money from this while other sane nations were fighting the lunatic nazis"

Do you have your own documented evidence of all you claim ? or are you just regurgitating the same old Zionist propaganda?

Come on back it up: Names, Dates, what was done . in other words PUT UP OR SHUTUP

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#44

14:38 January 24, 2010 by dsc

@Rick Methven

CORRECTION - POST #41

I got the numbers mixed up there. It was 111 countries that voted yes and only 25 mostly Arab/Moslem countries that opposed UN Resolution 46/86 where that lie you continue to perpetrate here was exposed and annulled from the UN records.

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#45

15:13 January 24, 2010 by Uncle

What I did, and plead guilty to, is also decrying the usual attempt by Zionists to turn anything they can into anti-Semitism.

Rick - the usual argument of the fresh-new nazis is that whenever they bash Jews, the Jews are always for some reason bring up Holocaust. The reason is that Holocaust started from bashing Jews first and not directly from the gas chambers.

It is funny that people who love to bash Jews, say "But you are not allowed to use the holocaust argument, because it is not fair and you always use it ". By the way - Zionism is nothing, but the belief that Jews have a right for their own country in Israel. Nothing more and nothing less.

By declaring your anti-semitism "only" as anti-Zionism (which is self defeating in discussion where a swedish Jew received reparations for Holocaust, because the discussion is about Jews and not Israel or Zionism), you still disagree that the Jews deserve a country in Israel (or Palestine, or Turkey, or Egypt, or England - depends who controlled the territory). By not presenting an alternative you are practically saying that Jews do not have a right for a country - period. That makes you anti-semite.

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