February 14, 2012
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Spyker CEO Victor Muller is missing a third of the funds required to complete the purchase of Saab from GM as questions mount over the secret financiers rumoured to be backing the deal, according to the Svenska Dagbladet (SvD) newspaper.
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(must be BMW, Mercedes or Audi drivers...)
But it is the premier Mafia numero uno Δ giving a little cash.
So what is the largest bank in Serbia?
They collapsed this current economy in the first place via Bush!
You really don't want to make a deal with the devil it will come back to burn you!
1- The only company interested in buying Saab can't even get the whole funding for it, even after kicking out a shady character from its shareholder base.
2- The purchase would rely on a loan guarantee from the Swedish government (i.e. taxpayers), which stands to lose 4 billion kronor if Saab fails.
Number 2 alone made me very doubtful that this deal was a good idea, and now number 1 comes along.
Your facts are not facts they are your ill-informed, skewed opinion based on a few sensationalist reports by shoddy media. To address them individually:
1) 'The only company interested in buying Saab can't even get the whole funding for it, even after kicking out a shady character from its shareholder base.' -----
There were many companies interested in Saab and many would have liked the chance to pay more for Saab in order to win it. Spyker has the money to complete this transaction and will do this month.
2) 'The purchase would rely on a loan guarantee from the Swedish government (i.e. taxpayers), which stands to lose 4 billion kronor if Saab fails.' ------- This is the argument usually trotted out by the stupid folk - in reality if Saab fails the Swedish government have already confirmed that the guarantee is more than covered by Saab's assets so there is absolutely no negative impact to the Swedish taxpayer - infact it will have a positive impact.
You are an expert in saying nothing.
I don't think they need you to guarantee the EIB loan - the Swedish government already has.
But to tackle your point Spyker has already revealed its shareholders. . . How these shareholders have funded the purchases of their shares is their business. Also a large percentage are free flowing shares, as the company is public and 'listed' on an exchange, so to reveal the funding arrangements of all the owners is a ridiculous proposition.
In a country as strong in innovation (and weak in private capital) as Sweden, I somehow doubt there are not better ways to create jobs with that money.
Does anybody actually think that Spyker will make SAAB profitable? (and not just a profitable deal for the Spyker shareholders)
You really have no idea, let me try and explain:
The Government has actually agreed to gurantee a bank loan - they have NOT agreed to provide the loan itself. And before they agreed to guarantee it they valued Saab's assets at the lowest possible market rate. These assets were valued at worst case scenario (eg. the factory was valued just as a peice of land not a going concern). It has been agreed by all (including the National Debt Office) that Saab's assets far exceeded 400 million Euros and so if they defaulted on the loan the sale of these assets would more than cover it. Therefore NO taxpayers money is either risked or spent. . . And if you still dosn't understand this simple explanation then I suggest that you go and ask an adult to explain it to you.
Back to you.
So you're saying that this story is completely false?
I think a source is in order for both of your claims (the one about this story and the one about the guarantee)...
Well it is Spyker's job to ensure your stingy little pockets are not violated. But I am sure they have far more significant incentives to succeed than your lint catchers.
GM on the other hand would be instigating a pocket lightening far sooner had it decided not to sell. Did you think the Saab employees were simply going to live on fairy dust and token payouts when they shuttered not only the brand, but impacted upon much of the dependant local business?
I would have thought it takes more than 1000SEK to blind a tax payer. How's' your Swedish bank doing these days...?
If Saab's assets far exceed its required loan, why is Swedish government needed as a guarantor?
However, I do not think that non-ethnic swedes would be worried about the jobs that would be lost because they never get employed in these companies on the ground of being foreign.
GM is giving the swedes a taste of their own medicine. I would advise these soon to be un-employed to be innovative in creating a job for themselves.
Another one... did they evaluate Saab's assets before or after some of them got sold to BAIC the Chinese company?
It is rather boring having to educate the blindingly thick, but to answer your questions:
'If Saab's assets far exceed its required loan, why is Swedish government needed as a guarantor?' ---- The Swedish Government is needed to provide a guarantee because that is what the EIB require. And the Swedish government and the National debt office (and just about everyone else) have agreed that Saab's assets far exceed 400million Euros.
'Another one... did they evaluate Saab's assets before or after some of them got sold to BAIC the Chinese company?' ------- What do you think dummy? Do you think that the National Debt office didn't take this into consideration????
Saab did sell some old tooling (for early generation model 9-5) at the end of last year to BAIC for a bout 200million and there are plenty more production lines that could be sold in the event that the guarantee has to be called in - so you do the maths and see whether they could raise 400million.
Simpletons are like old fashioned typwriters - unsophisticated and you really need to punch the information in. But anyway Saab been saved and we will see all the peices of the jigsaw fall into place over the coming 10 days or so. Well done Saab and Spyker.
The next problem is that journalists in Sweden have not had to look too far for a story and Saab has been a big part of the news recently. They may now actually need to get off their arses and fill the bad news void. . . . Perhaps we will see 'Volvo and the 'dog-eaters' stories next.
Just when we were talking about simpletons you turn up. . . . Spooky.