February 14, 2012
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Troubled Scandinavian airline SAS has announced a new share issue to raise 5 billion kronor ($674 million) as well as a programme of cuts and savings designed to save a further 2 billion kronor.
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In other words, low cost service for high price. F off...
SAS on same dates wanted 5,967 sek. And they even charge you for drinking water.
Moreover, SAS has a one of the worst online websites.
Ditch first and business classes. Many companies don't allow their employees to fly BC anymore anyway. Make all flights 6 hours or longer duration (i.e. to another continent) 100% Economy plus, which is basically an economy seat with the ability to lift your legs a bit and therefore run less risk of blood circulation problems.
Make all flights less than 6 hours (inside Europe) 100% Economy, and reduce the prices.
Bottom line nowadays, those that can afford first class and business could probably afford to charter their own flight.
There is one good thing about SAS - punctuality and customer care. Low cost airlines do not provide that and that is what makes them low cost. When I was flying with Ryanair and WizzAir the delays were at least one hour. If you have a connecting flight - never ever choose Wizzair or Ryanair.
When we are at connecting flights - I had happened to me only once, when SAS flight was delayed, it couldn't make it before the departure of the next flight, but they provided a convenient rebooking. Do not count on that when flying Ryanair or Wizzair.
All in all, I think that SAS is asking fair prices for fair services.
SAS - Punctual? hardly.
Customer Services - It can be a nightmare to change details and the like, the staff on routes do what they can, but the saying you can't polish a turd springs to mind.
Cheap and good value, compared to who? BA perhaps although there is little in it at times.
Lufthansa and Aircanada were the best service wise, except Aircanada domestic is pretty bad but if you do long distance as i often do its great.
The website is horrible. It gives weird error messages and when you want to change the dates and search again ,it cannot remember the destination.
I m sure they throw out good workers and want to keep in place the same management team ...
Bad service, rude staff, TWICE they have failed with an internal connection service and given a poor excuse. (+500kr compensation - Big Deal!)
I now fly Ryanair. On time, clean, young energetic staff, and above all cheap. With 3 kids, SAS don't even come close.
Sell it off.
You do have a point that low-cost airlines suck for connecting flights, as they don't guarantee your connection. But that's not the same as not being punctual.
Rubbish website, awful prices. Oldest fleet in Europe.
They have "online" checkin.. but when you print the boarding pass it defaults to the wrong size (due to a badly written script) so its not accepted when you go to security. When it used to work, they used to change your seat without asking you anyway.
Have flown SAS 14 times in the past 8 months. Checked lugage in 4 times, lugguage lost 4 times. Every single flight was late except one. Even booking 2 months in advance anytime afer April the prices are insane. At least in the 80s you got some free food (SAS are living in the 80s, their planes, their staff, their prices)
Find the cabin staff very snotty and unfriendly on most flights.
Without state aid this company would have gone bust a long time ago.
I really do wish they would stop laying people off as a solution to their problems. The only people that need to be laid off are their useless management (a 12 year old would do a better job) Your probelm is price SAS, you CANNOT offer a "no frills" service and ask people to pay high cost. Thankfully on many routes there is competition now, so no one has to fly with this terrible airline.
On my last leg on a return flight, my Lufthansa flight from Frankfurt to Stockholm was flown by SAS. It was one of the worst flights I have been to. I do not mind them not serviing meals on a three hour flight - I just want to lay back and get to where I am going. BUT what really annoys me is the purser going on and on and on with the speaker system with her shrill voice, about every single thing that can be purchased. And the clueless staff who simply do not know what to do when someone wishes to pay their ¤4 cup of coffee with dollars.
Especially contrasted with the pleasant and comfortable Lufthansa flight with competent crew, the SAS leg was a joke.
Just need to remember to make my Lufthansa is actually flown by Lufthansa in the future. SAS, nej tack!
Aeroflot was 10 times better than SAS
Now that says a lot about SAS!
If SAS were a kid brought to Astrid Lindgen Hospital for Children, the doctors would put it out of it's misery. Pumping in five more billion krona is comparable to a respirator that just 'prolongs SAS suffering'
I wish the swedes were as quick to euthanize corporations as they are small children ;)
;)
What a joke! have you not read some of the prices they were charging vs their competition, the only thing extra being given was a newspaper. Yes we can do without the food, if the ticket price is lower.
Heres a typical example: Last July they were charging on average 4200kr for the whole month (from May on) one way for a short haul 2 hours 20 minutes flight Stockholm to Dublin. The competition was offering it for 400kr (inc all taxes etc)
I wrote them an email saying that I would prefer to fly to Arlanda than Skavsta and didnt mind paying a little more but 10 times the price was not reasonable. I got a reply stating "Prices for fares arr worked out using complex calcuation. We hope to see you fly with us again in the near future".
Either they need to fire the 8 year old counting on the abacus to do these calulations or continue to loose money
I recently flew to frankfurt from lax with Lufthansa on an old 747 without a video screen in the seat ...now that was a horrible flight. Very 80's....
I dont fly domestically with SAS but have heard that they are not good as the international flights. One service you don't see though, are the experienced pilots and service engineers. Ryan air probably goes with lowest bidder for their engineering services and least experienced pilots to get a real nice price. Be sure to catch the latest episode of air crash investigation on Nat Geo channel.
SAS website does have it its glitches every now and then, but you can get get good deals there if you are quick or it is low season. Last minute too, I've never been able to do that on Lufthansa's site.
Its a tough business to be in now for any airline. I hope SAS can keep up the quality and stay in the game.
Let me see...
Flying to Ireland....
with Ryan Air...
Do I need to say more??
I don't think so.
Need you say more what exactly? Ive flown with the 94 times Skavsta -Dublin, late twice (due to weather)
Yes Ryan for the Dublin to Stockholm (no other choice as SAS is crazy prices 9 months of the year) Norwegian CPH to Dublin (So happy they came in to give a choice)'
And either Ryan or Norwegian Dublin to Oslo (as SAS charge up to 5400kr in the summer, whereas the other 2 are craging around 550kr)
At the end of the day SAS are clueless on realistic pricing option 90% of the time.
I am always fascinated as to how the Swedes always, no matter how bad things are, presume that there is some hidden quality of supreme Swedish wonderfulness. No evidence in the world can compete against this invisible quality the Swedes ACTUALLY believe is there... There must be a horrible dissonance in their minds, when things like SAS are going belly-up. How CAN it be, with all the inherent Swedish wonderfulness? How CAN people fail to see and appreciate it!
I tell you why: It is all in your minds - it does not exist!
What he is say that just because its Swedish it must be better. For example the strawberries in the summer that are "Swedish" are 20% more expensive than the ones that come from Belgium. To most Swedes the Swedish ones are somehow better. (To me the Belgian ones actually tasted much better) The governtment last year even set up a task force to try to catch people selling foreign strawberries as Swedish.
SAS ar ejust like SL, badly run beacuase they overcharge their customer for short trips.
not the child. The children.
As you can see from for instance http://sismicro.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/swedish-doctors-put-a-7-year-old-boy-out-of-his-misery/ the swedish euthanasia program is systematic, and the MDs kill children even in cases where the parent expressly plead them to not do so.
The Swedes think this is ok, and find it 'ridiculous' that the MDs right to kill is even questioned, and that these things are talked about.
I for one intend to keep bringing these things up. Don't care how many ppl I rub the wrong way, I intend to keep on rubbing to make the point that you people by accepting this are enabling the killings. Just like you do, by not actively trying to silence the little reminders the rest of as are dropping all over the place that these murders are still taking place. ;)
New airbuses= Now there's a reason not to fly SAS. Haven't you heard? Airbuses have been dropping out of the sky like flies lately.