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Skavsta rejects Ryanair 'illegal closure' claims

Published: 11 Feb 10 14:30 CET | Double click on a word to get a translation
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/24926/20100211/

A Ryanair flight coming into Stockholm Skavsta Airport on Wednesday evening was told that it could not land as the airport was closed, a move the Irish low-cost airline has declared 'illegal'.

"Our flight was due to land within the established curfew. We had to divert and this was not something that was very beneficial for our customers," Ryanair's Stephen McNamara told The Local on Thursday.

"This has not happened before. Not at one of our hubs anyway. Our people are talking to the airport today to get to the bottom of the issue," he said.

A Ryanair statement on Thursday described the closure of the runway at Stockholm Skavsta Airport, about 100 kilometres south of the city, as "illegal."

"It was illegal because we were not outside of the required time limits," McNamara told The Local.

Passengers on the Ryanair flight from Malta were diverted to Stockholm Arlanda Airport where they were transferred by coach back to Skavsta.

"Thankfully, as we had extra aircraft capacity at Skavsta, our flights have been able to run as normal today (Thursday)."

Stephen McNamara explained that once the reasons behind the incident are established then Ryanair will raise the issue of compensation for the extra costs incurred.

But Skavsta chief Dot Gade Kulovuori rejected the budget carrier's claims. Though reluctant to comment in any detail on the incident, she referred The Local to a statement posted to the airport's website on Thursday afternoon.

"This [Ryanair's] statement is incorrect; the airport is operating in accordance with its service level requirements as agreed with its airline partners. We deeply regret any inconvenience caused to those passengers affected and we shall continue to work with Ryanair to ensure that passengers wishing to use Stockholm Skavsta Airport receive the best possible service; this is of utmost importance to us."

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15:34 February 11, 2010 by Osk
That's a reason for Ryanair to transfer flights to Uppsala airport when it opens later this year
20:45 February 11, 2010 by Malmoman
Nothing worse than an angry Irish billionaire! Well OK maybe an American or Richard Branson. Either way crazy! As a former flight student it is pretty inconceivable for Cessna 150 let alone a Jumbo.
21:45 February 11, 2010 by peropaco
@Malmoman,. Nothing worse than an angry Irish billionaire!

Nigerian billionaire

Russian billionaire

Mexican billionaire

Argentinean billionaire

SWEDES BILLIONAIRE

Iranian billionaire

Venezuelan

........................................
22:34 February 11, 2010 by CarlBlack
This article is hardly useful if we don't get an information why the airport was closed. It's probably not difficult to assess which side is right if we get the facts and not just statements of each side in which each spokesman gives almost no details
23:52 February 11, 2010 by albert1974
I agree with CarlBlack:

The Local sometimes tend to miss the point in its articles!

There is no word about the reason why Skavsta closed: snow? ice? too late in the night? fog? strike?

However I think that passengers were more than happy to land in Arlanda: much closer to the city. I wonder how many did accept to go to Skavsta by bus and then again back to Stockholm!

About Ryanair: they always travel with exact amount of fuel, on the airplane, to save money, so I wonder about the panic of the pilot... he had to fly a couple of hundred kilometers more, to reach Arlanda! Maybe he did it turning off one engine....!
02:33 February 12, 2010 by saabdude
If Ryan were a REAL airline, they would be using MAJOR airports...which requires paying real fees to do so.

Being that Ryan Air provides service BARELY equal to bus service, on a good day, the old saying "you get what you pay for" applies to Ryan Air every time. You don't pay much...you don't GET much.

Having spent 30+ years as an airline Purser, there isn't enough money on the planet to get me to fly Ryan Air. They are an accident just waiting to happen. I'd rather stay home, than fly that alledged "airline".
08:14 February 12, 2010 by karex
@saabdude

Right on the mark!
08:30 February 12, 2010 by Mzungu
^

Mmm..Significant number of passengers would disagree with you about that...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ryanair_pax_fig.JPG

*just an observation*
09:32 February 12, 2010 by Rick Methven
@albert1974

"About Ryanair: they always travel with exact amount of fuel, on the airplane, to save money, so I wonder about the panic of the pilot... he had to fly a couple of hundred kilometers more, to reach Arlanda! Maybe he did it turning off one engine....! "

Shows that you know SFA about aviation and regulations regarding fuel. The Ryanair aircraft would have had about 13 tons of fuel on board when it left Malta for a flight of around 1450 nautical miles . By the time it reached Skavsta it would have around 3 tons of fuel left sufficient for it to stay in a holding pattern around Skavsta for 45 minutes and then divert to is designated fuel alternate which would most probably be Landvetter 176 miles away. As the aircraft actually did not hold but diverted to Arlanda which is only 67 Nautical miles(124 km) away, he would have landed at Arlanda with at least 2.5 tons of fuel on board.
11:09 February 12, 2010 by EtoileBrilliant
@saabdude

"Having spent 30+ years as an airline Purser, there isn't enough money on the planet to get me to fly Ryan Air. They are an accident just waiting to happen. I'd rather stay home, than fly that alledged "airline""

I'm the last person to champion Ryanair as a carrier. However, your comments are at best unhelpful and at worse just stupid. Let's just assume that you were a purser with one of the major carriers (SAS or BA). Ryanair's fleet is probably the most modern in Europe if not the Western world - for an airline with that market cap, I'd say that was pretty amazing.

SAS fly a fleet of MD 80s (or derivatives) that have long passed their shelf life and require much more maintenance that their Ryanair equivalents to keep in the air (don't believe me, in 2008 the FAA grounded the whole of Delta's and AA MD 80 fleet for a week due to wiring problems). Are Ryanair flight crew any less safe than SAS or BA. Well they're a lot younger and more nimble for sure.

So, whilst we can agree Ryanair are cheap and the service is pretty shoddy, safety wise they're one of the best.
13:01 February 12, 2010 by Rick Methven
@saabdude

Your comments made with your 'qualifications' to give them authority are not only wrong but libellous.

Having been at the back end of the aircraft for 30+ years does not make you any kind of expert.

As EtoileBrilliant has said, Ryanairs fleet of 218 737-800 aircraft is the youngest in Europe with an Average age of under 3 years, the oldest being 7 years

The SAS fleet has an average age of 14 years and the oldest MD is 24 years old

BA 's fleet has an average age of 12 years and the oldest 747 is 21 years old

KLM' fleet has an average age of 10 years

The fact that an aircraft is old does not make it less safe, but does make it much more expensive to keep flying safely and efficiently. The MD82 of SAS burns over 30% more fuel than the 737 of Ryanair and is far more polluting.

All European airlines must follow the same rules on maintenance and saftey as laid down by the JAR which in general are tougher than those of the FAA. so to say that Ryanair is " an accident just waiting to happen" is libellous as it intimates that they break the law.

Yes you get what you pay for with Ryanair, a no frills service. You certainly do not get what you pay for with the legacy carriers such as SAS,BA or KLM.

Asafetys far as your so called 'REAL airports' are concerned, what is not a real airport. 13 years ago when Ryanair started flying to Skavsta all they had was a runway and a freight shed. Today, thanks to Ryanair ,the airport has expanded has a good terminal and is a major source of employment for Nyköping.

Or maybe you only consider the overblown shopping malls of LHR, AMS,ARN, CPH etc to be REAL airports.

Re your "I'd rather stay home, than fly that alledged "airline". I expect you get loads of ID90 and ID100 tickets on your own sad airline so you never have to buy a ticket on Ryanair.
00:32 February 14, 2010 by Viviane Varan
QUOTE: .../...However I think that passengers were more than happy to land in Arlanda: much closer to the city. I wonder how many did accept to go to Skavsta by bus and then again back to Stockholm!.../...END QUOTE

Akbert1974 you're hylarious, what you said is sooo true, you cracked me up,

really, but I also wonder how many passengers had friends who came to pick them up in this other airport, but then again if the airport was closed where did those friends ended up ? so many questions, not many answers
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