February 14, 2012
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The National Housing Credit Guarantee Board (BKN) has warned that Sweden stands on the precipice of a house price crash. Record low interest rates and loose credit has expanded borrowing to unsustainable levels, the board argued in a new report.
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You can rent 'privately'. We've been doing so for years and the house we are renting is great! Price wise- a lot of 'privately rented' property is more expensive, you have to look around. Also, I am actually grateful that Sweden isn't as underdeveloped as some EU countries. In some, all you see is cranes, heavy machinery and an uprising of ghetto like blocks that are actually fenced or have brick walls around them....They are just catching up.
For me, a 20% drop will be great!!
@blackman_for_Blondes
True! Even if you go to a 'shitty' EU country, housing prices are ridiculous! Crap housing, crappier salaries and Swedish prices!
When we bought our apartment and signed the papers, I wanted to make the contract "subject to finance" just in case our mortgage provider had other ideas on the value of the property. The broker looked at me as if I were ill. To the bank the property is worth what you paid for it! In 25 years of being a mortgage banker, I had never heard anything that shouted "bubble" more than that.
The other matter to think about in Sweden is the wide disparity between capital gains (30%) and income tax (nearer 48%) coupled with the tax deductions for loan interest (irrespective of its its use). Never have I seen a tax system that encourages more asset speculation and deters income derived from hard work.
As critics of any system where "Warren Buffet pays less tax than his cleaning lady" have always pointed out - it matters a jot whether your Dollar is earned by capital gain or income, the tax rate should be the same!
The irony is that in Sweden, this asymmetry benefits the rich (whose income is primarily derived from from assets) and penalizes the poor (who have no assets and have to work)
Heck I'm not anywhere near poor and my income tax is just a little above 30%.
PS: Oh, and w t f do you know about my roots to make that comment?
If the prices drop 20% you old house is worth 1,6 mil and the new house is worth 2,4 mil. You make 0,1 mil on the sale, cannot cover for the top loan for the new house, pay for it's amortization plus the interest and still have the old ugly brown-purple wallpaper from the previous owners.
See? It is always better with price increase.
The answer is that I prefer the latter since it's cheaper.
EtoileBrilliant poor people don't 48% income tax. There is the basic allowance, and the lower tax brackets which aren't anywhere near 48%.
Example - Assumptions: Income tax (Direct - 32%), Employer social fee (indirect - 31.42%)
From a pay of "100", the Employer first pays "32" in Income tax (direct - 32%), on top of that the Employer also pays an additional "31.42" in Employers social fees (indirect - 31.42%).
Thus, from a pay check of "100", 63.42/131.42 (i.e. 48.3%) is paid as income taxes.
If you ignore your Employer's tax contribution, you're half blind. That's money that would have gone to you!
As for me and most of mortal beings this money is not forgotten, but is a liability to the bank, which we need to return.
Therefore it is not get 2 mil or 1,6 mil into your hands, but get 500,000 or 100,000. The first one covers for the things that I described, while the second one does not.
Simple as bread.
So let's look at the two examples again, assuming you didn't amortize any of the debt when you sell:
Prices don't go down: - 1.5m + 2m - 3m = -2.5m
Prices go down: - 1.5m + 1.6m - 2.4m = -2.3m
So again the latter situation gives you a 200,000 kr advantage.
Out of your 2,4 loan you have about 140K top loan on which you pay relatively huge interest rate. So after 15 years you paid off this loan, plus the interest on this loan, plus the interest on the main mortgage, while on 2,5 mil you pay only main low interest. (2,5% main interest and 5% top loan assumed).
Effectively, you are offloading hundreds of SEK for the first 15 or so years MORE than with more expensive house. Actually - about 100K more. At the end of 25 years, the more expensive house offsets the difference to "only" 40K paid more for the cheaper house.
However, with higher interest rates, this difference is even smaller and you can pay less on the cheaper house only if the average interest goes above 4,2%, given the top loan is still double that.
Everything because of the top loan! Your example works if you avoid that bastard loan even with the cheaper house.
I would conclude that both sides are right - if you amortize largely your previous debt and want to buy a new house, than the price decrease can be advantageous. If you don't amortize and neither save money for upgrading to a bigger house, then your only hope is that prices increase so part of the money for new mortgage are generated by themselves...